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[gkrieg13]

Taking another look at the thread since no one seems to be interested in JR, I thought I remembered e being vaguely scummy but not really, though he does need to be more present.

Let's vote: Jake. Completely disappeared after his wagon did.

Cool were back to this stuff now.

Anything else to add ? Wagons are bad especially when they're on you, got that, but who's scummy for it ? faust I guess ? Why ?

I don't like faust posts like I said when I voted him. I have no qualms with anyone who voted me because they voted me.

This makes me read scummy on Jake.  This is super unlike him as town.

[gkrieg13]

Couldn't you tell us what the post was, so we could analyze it for ourselves?

It is remarkable how many of these kinds of empty posts eevee has.

[gkrieg13]

To be specific, Ash, TWM, and Eevee look scummy for pushing Jake. Teproc looks towny for it. Roadrunner null.

Ash and TWM look partner, even.

This is good play from iguana.  I tentitively have a town read on him, only because I have seen how the new iguana plays as scum, and he is a good player.

[gkrieg13]

I don't know, I have no impression of gkrieg whatsoever. I guess that's scummy maybe, but it mostly seems to me that he's been absent.

What I'm trying to do is avoid lynches of the following:

players who are just too easy to mislynch: RR, Joseph, Jake, J Reggie
players who are usually town assets and get a Day 1 pass unless they are scum incarnate: faust, ashersky
players I have actual (slight) town reads on: iguana, TWM
players I am happy to play with after so long (yay!): Teproc

Who's left? Gkrieg, 2.7, Eevee

I still really don't like this post from Robz.  I know he is dead, but still...

[gkrieg13]

Faust/Teproc is the wolf possibility that is the funniest ^^

Another also, what do you think about faust/Teproc?  I posted about them feeling not genuine when I read them.

I still feel this way, which gives me a scum read on Teproc.

Currently as of post #500, I scumread Jake, Joseph, Eevee.  Slight scum on Teproc and e.  Town on ash, tentatively on iguana. J Reggie is still pretty null at this point.  I think his plan posts were townie, but then he stops being townie.

[gkrieg13]

Plane is starting to board.  I might finish this during my layover.

[2.71828.....]

unvote


thoughts

[2.71828.....]

Ok,

Back to Vote: J Reggie

After working back through everything I convinced myself that scenarios exist where town can win no matter who we lynch today.

Obviously lynching town makes it more difficult, but scum (werewolves or mafia) have to work with us to eliminate the other faction.  Also, the only kingmaking situation occurs if there are 2 mafia, 2 werewolves, and 1 town alive during the day.  No lynch leads to a werewolf win.  Lynch mafia leads to werewolf win.  Lynch town leads to werewolf win.  Lynch werewolf leads to a mafia win.

[Joseph2302]

please stop calling the hammer stupid. It wasn't

It was.
Pretty sure there's not anything you've said this game that I've agreed with

[iguanaiguana]

please stop calling the hammer stupid. It wasn't

It was.
Pretty sure there's not anything you've said this game that I've agreed with

Well we were on both mislynches and he wasn't and he didn't want Faust either so maybe you should be agreeing with him.

[schadd]

routine thread maintenance

[schadd]

q: what kind of math is used to make vote counts


a: mod-ular arithmetic

[ashersky]

Pretty sure a mislynch definitely means we lose.

[Joseph2302]

please stop calling the hammer stupid. It wasn't

It was.
Pretty sure there's not anything you've said this game that I've agreed with

Well we were on both mislynches and he wasn't and he didn't want Faust either so maybe you should be agreeing with him.

You've been on 2 mislynches & have been on the kill list twice but survived.
Either you're incredibly lucky, or more likely a WW

[iguanaiguana]

please stop calling the hammer stupid. It wasn't

It was.
Pretty sure there's not anything you've said this game that I've agreed with

Well we were on both mislynches and he wasn't and he didn't want Faust either so maybe you should be agreeing with him.

You've been on 2 mislynches & have been on the kill list twice but survived.
Either you're incredibly lucky, or more likely a WW

Lol

[iguanaiguana]

As town who was the main driving force behind both lynches so far this game, which were both on town, I do not feel very lucky.

And Teproc is a jerk and probably mafia.

[gkrieg13]

Reading on my computer, but the airport doesn't have wifi, so I have to respond on my phone.

[gkrieg13]

Scratch that. Reread will be later.

[Teproc]

I think it's pretty pointless to try and decipher who's a WW and who's a mafia right now. I mean, obviously some people are more likely to be one than the other (iguana can't really be mafia for example), and yeah lynching mafia is slightly better... but I think that's a pretty hazardous way of scumhunting, especially considering the 3-man team has daychat and therefore a lot of power on what happens in the day. I think we should lynch whoever we deem most likely to be scum in general, regardless of which exact faction we think they're in.

And Teproc is a jerk and probably mafia.

Why ?

[iguanaiguana]

And yes, the RR lycnh was terrible (and had the hammer come from anyone else's I'd be screaming for their lynch), but we know at least one town was on it, and probably two... let's just say that if I were you, igu, I'd reconsider my reads, deeply. There's a reason you're still alive despite everyone and their grandmother thinking you're town.

And you just feel like you are playing a say anything to stay alive game now.

[Teproc]

And yes, the RR lycnh was terrible (and had the hammer come from anyone else's I'd be screaming for their lynch), but we know at least one town was on it, and probably two... let's just say that if I were you, igu, I'd reconsider my reads, deeply. There's a reason you're still alive despite everyone and their grandmother thinking you're town.

And you just feel like you are playing a say anything to stay alive game now.

Huh ? How so and how does it relate to what you quoted ?

[iguanaiguana]

And yes, the RR lycnh was terrible (and had the hammer come from anyone else's I'd be screaming for their lynch), but we know at least one town was on it, and probably two... let's just say that if I were you, igu, I'd reconsider my reads, deeply. There's a reason you're still alive despite everyone and their grandmother thinking you're town.

And you just feel like you are playing a say anything to stay alive game now.

Huh ? How so and how does it relate to what you quoted ?

Answering why to both things you asked about

[iguanaiguana]

But I don't think town Teproc scolds me like that - if the game isn't going well, blame yourself,  right?  If town Teproc really thought the RR lynch was awful, I think he does a lot more to stop it.

[iguanaiguana]

Oh, and re:ash saying gkrieg and me should have been named... I was surprised not to be named on day 1, but gkrieg ? He was never strongly townread in this game, didn't he get wagons on both days ?

Town Teproc thinks a bit harder to defend himself here. Tries to figure out why he might not have been named D1 AND D2 and gives his best explanation. You essentially brushed off the fact that you went unnamed so far this game.

[Teproc]

I'm not scolding you, I'm urging you to do the work since you seemed to be discouraged. All we need to win this game is to figure out who town is... well that and possibly lynch in the right order, which is going to be the really difficult part. But first, we need to identify the other townies. But for that, we need to put in the effort, the time. We've only played one game together right (I guess Sherlock but I didn't play that all the way through and I was scum anyway so it's different in my head), and in that game you basically gave up when things got tough for your faction, so I'm worried you're doing the same here. Looks like you're not, though.

Oh, and re:ash saying gkrieg and me should have been named... I was surprised not to be named on day 1, but gkrieg ? He was never strongly townread in this game, didn't he get wagons on both days ?

Town Teproc thinks a bit harder to defend himself here. Tries to figure out why he might not have been named D1 AND D2 and gives his best explanation. You essentially brushed off the fact that you went unnamed so far this game.

I never defend myself. I try my best to make myself obv!town, something I've clearly failed at this game, but I don't defend myself because that never helps anyone.