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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #675 on: July 17, 2017, 07:01:35 am »

Awaclus is now pushing a mediocre mission instead of a lynch, and I don't like it.  I'm not ready to treat anybody as IC right now.  Otherwise, I support what Teproc's saying.  Town points for sense-making.

It's not a mediocre mission. We're going to need the contraband for the mission that I set aside.

So we'll just go two days without lynching?  What's the pay-off?
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #676 on: July 17, 2017, 07:03:50 am »

Awaclus is now pushing a mediocre mission instead of a lynch, and I don't like it.  I'm not ready to treat anybody as IC right now.  Otherwise, I support what Teproc's saying.  Town points for sense-making.

It's not a mediocre mission. We're going to need the contraband for the mission that I set aside.

Unless the payoff is "town wins the game", I don't think it's worth just letting scum kill two nights in a row.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #677 on: July 17, 2017, 07:55:39 am »

Hammering a mission we didn't agreed on, and which resulted in death and failure isn't enough for you ? Also I already thought he was scum. His "oopsie my plan didn't work out" is convenient too, but I'm willing to hear it, hence the "rolefishing".

Huh?  You're making weird connections.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #678 on: July 17, 2017, 07:57:08 am »

Are we 100% certain that there's no other way a mission can fail than scum submitting failures?  We were wrong about a Night Kill, what if we're wrong about this?

Awaclus is now pushing a mediocre mission instead of a lynch, and I don't like it.  I'm not ready to treat anybody as IC right now.  Otherwise, I support what Teproc's saying.  Town points for sense-making.

I would also like to hear more from WW, ESPECIALLY if no-one is willing to confirm the redirection.  To put some pressure behind this request:

Vote: WitherWeaver

If WW and Awaclus are partners, they'd want to hammer a mission they could fail with 1 scum somehow, because they'd get a surprise NK and make Awaclus look like IC.  We're in a worse place now than had we lynched yesterday and I hate it.

Yeah I'd just make up being manipulated.

I was not redirected.  I was informed I could only target LaLight.  I did not think LaLight was scum, so I did not rather him.

I'm not going to tell you what my role was.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #679 on: July 17, 2017, 07:57:38 am »

That should say, "target him".
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #680 on: July 17, 2017, 07:58:59 am »

That should say, "target him".

Did you make Confession then?
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #681 on: July 17, 2017, 08:21:11 am »

Yeah I'd just make up being manipulated.

Why not?  If we buy it, it means that we don't think you could have killed ashersky, so you get away with it.  If you're town and it really happened, I don't understand why you'd bring it up.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #682 on: July 17, 2017, 08:23:25 am »

You also haven't explained why you hammered the mission whilst we had loads of time and were discussing other options.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #683 on: July 17, 2017, 08:54:37 am »

Yeah I'd just make up being manipulated.

Why not?  If we buy it, it means that we don't think you could have killed ashersky, so you get away with it.  If you're town and it really happened, I don't understand why you'd bring it up.

Why wouldn't I? 
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #684 on: July 17, 2017, 08:55:00 am »

You also haven't explained why you hammered the mission whilst we had loads of time and were discussing other options.

Oh, I was somehow confused that a day of no posting was discussing.  My bad.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #685 on: July 17, 2017, 08:56:22 am »

That should say, "target him".

Did you make Confession then?

No.  I can only do it while not on a mission.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #686 on: July 17, 2017, 09:25:54 am »

I'm intrigued with Awaclus' plan around the mission.

Awaclus, are you scum reading LaLaight or do you think you staffed the mission with all town?
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #687 on: July 17, 2017, 09:42:04 am »

What ? No, stop. We need to lynch today.

WW, explain in more detail than this. Also if someone can confirm they "messed with" WW that would help, but somehow I doubt that'll happen.

Why do you doubt that would happen?  Odd thing to say.

I expected someone to claim the power.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #688 on: July 17, 2017, 09:43:07 am »

Awaclus is town because there was an NK?  I don't get it.

No, I'm town because the mission failed.

Okay, then:

"Awaclus is town because the mission failed?  I don't get it."
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #689 on: July 17, 2017, 09:43:31 am »

I think NK was made by a vig
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #690 on: July 17, 2017, 09:43:58 am »

Vig shooting Ash would be very poor.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #691 on: July 17, 2017, 09:54:01 am »

Vig shooting Ash would be very poor.

But not unheard of.

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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #692 on: July 17, 2017, 09:54:51 am »

Vig shooting Ash would be very poor.

But not unheard of.

vote: PPS

he's indestructable
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #693 on: July 17, 2017, 09:56:11 am »

Oh ya. Hmmmmmm
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #694 on: July 17, 2017, 11:03:02 am »

I'm intrigued with Awaclus' plan around the mission.

Awaclus, are you scum reading LaLaight or do you think you staffed the mission with all town?

This question is bad and you should feel bad.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #695 on: July 17, 2017, 11:05:44 am »

I highly doubt ash was a scum NK. Scum shouldn't have been able to NK in the first place, and killing ash wouldn't make sense because he wasn't the guy they ICd by failing the mission and he wasn't even the towniest on the mission in case they could only target out of those. I also don't think it was a vig kill, so there's probably some other shenanigans going on.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #696 on: July 17, 2017, 11:39:00 am »

I'm intrigued with Awaclus' plan around the mission.

Awaclus, are you scum reading LaLaight or do you think you staffed the mission with all town?

This question is bad and you should feel bad.

Well, I don't feel too bad about trying to determine if you are using the mission to find scum or because you expect it to succeed without issue. If the latter I'm inclined to accept. If the former I think we should pick someone besides Lalight.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #697 on: July 17, 2017, 12:10:54 pm »

I'm intrigued with Awaclus' plan around the mission.

Awaclus, are you scum reading LaLaight or do you think you staffed the mission with all town?

This question is bad and you should feel bad.

Well, I don't feel too bad about trying to determine if you are using the mission to find scum or because you expect it to succeed without issue. If the latter I'm inclined to accept. If the former I think we should pick someone besides Lalight.

I am using the mission for a carefully planned purpose. I'm not sure if it's better than lynching today.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #698 on: July 17, 2017, 12:44:06 pm »

What ? No, stop. We need to lynch today.

WW, explain in more detail than this. Also if someone can confirm they "messed with" WW that would help, but somehow I doubt that'll happen.

Why do you doubt that would happen?  Odd thing to say.

I expected someone to claim the power.

Because either you're scum or whoever did it is scum. Maybe some town PR messed you up, I'm allowing for that, but I just doubt it. MOstly because I think you're scum.

I agree with gkrieg btw.

I think PPS should claim what he did last night.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (D3)
« Reply #699 on: July 17, 2017, 12:44:42 pm »

ash was not a scum NK in that he wasn't THE scum NK. He was killed by some PR. Which may or may not have been scum.
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