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[pingpongsam]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

[Teproc]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

It's either this:

- we end the day quickly. The benefits are that scum don't know what the lynch dynamics might be if we decide to lynch tomorrow.
- we don't end the day quickly, and play a normal game, just being careful not to lynch and ending with votes on whoever we think is scummy.

If you wanted to do the latter, why did you accept in five seconds ? I don't think ending the day with three people voting afte rvery little discussion is a great position to be in.

[gkrieg13]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

Are you serious right now?

[ashersky]

I did my flip thing already.  I'll point out that I mentioned this at the beginning of the day as being important.

I don't know that we need to change the captain yet -- let's see what happens with the current mission.

[CheesyJelly]

Unless we all make terrible scum reads, voting (without intending to lynch) should push town to the top ranks and scum to the bottom, stopping them from getting any say over the missions.

I have assigned my flip.

PPE: 4

[LaLight]

I have assigned the flip

vote: ashersky

[Awaclus]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

Are you serious right now?

If he's joking, that's an amazingly anti-town thing to do.

[Teproc]

Unless we all make terrible scum reads, voting (without intending to lynch) should push town to the top ranks and scum to the bottom, stopping them from getting any say over the missions.

I have assigned my flip.

PPE: 4

The problem is that it's unjustified voting, so there's no accountability. Scum reads can be wrong, and scum also gets to vote against people they perceive to be dangerous for whatever reason. If we do a full day, sure... but I think that would demand doing things like talking about who we think the captain  and first mate are, and why they did what they did etc.

If we don't want to talk about that, we shouldn't vote at all I think.

[Witherweaver]

Have not set my flip.  Connection here is spotty.

I am also bourboning.

[Witherweaver]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

Boo

[CheesyJelly]

Unless we all make terrible scum reads, voting (without intending to lynch) should push town to the top ranks and scum to the bottom, stopping them from getting any say over the missions.

I have assigned my flip.

PPE: 4

The problem is that it's unjustified voting, so there's no accountability. Scum reads can be wrong, and scum also gets to vote against people they perceive to be dangerous for whatever reason. If we do a full day, sure... but I think that would demand doing things like talking about who we think the captain  and first mate are, and why they did what they did etc.

If we don't want to talk about that, we shouldn't vote at all I think.

I entirely disagree.  What I'm suggesting here is not the same as a co-ordinated manipulation of ranks.  It actually just involves voting for who you think is scummy to decrease the likelihood of that player having extra choice/power.

[CheesyJelly]

Have not set my flip.  Connection here is spotty.

I am also bourboning.

You win roleplay points.

[Witherweaver]

Have not set my flip.  Connection here is spotty.

I am also bourboning.

You win roleplay points.

I'll be in my bunk.

Also, I set my flip now.

[Teproc]

Unless we all make terrible scum reads, voting (without intending to lynch) should push town to the top ranks and scum to the bottom, stopping them from getting any say over the missions.

I have assigned my flip.

PPE: 4

The problem is that it's unjustified voting, so there's no accountability. Scum reads can be wrong, and scum also gets to vote against people they perceive to be dangerous for whatever reason. If we do a full day, sure... but I think that would demand doing things like talking about who we think the captain  and first mate are, and why they did what they did etc.

If we don't want to talk about that, we shouldn't vote at all I think.

I entirely disagree.  What I'm suggesting here is not the same as a co-ordinated manipulation of ranks.  It actually just involves voting for who you think is scummy to decrease the likelihood of that player having extra choice/power.

This is also what I'm talking about...

[Teproc]

Have not set my flip.  Connection here is spotty.

I am also bourboning.

You win roleplay points.

Also, I set my flip now.

Shiny !

[pingpongsam]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

Are you serious right now?

While somewhat tongue in cheek that was definitely the scummiest thing I had seen all day so I was just following direction.

[Teproc]

SO it was scummy to call for people to vote... but you're intending to leave your vote on him ?

Any consideration to the fact that gkrieg didn't hesitate at all to claim Inara ?

[gkrieg13]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

Are you serious right now?

While somewhat tongue in cheek that was definitely the scummiest thing I had seen all day so I was just following direction.

What I was saying is that leaving things as they are seems bad.  Why shouldn't we try to sink the scums lower in the ordering?

What happens if the Captain and the First Mate die, and because we didn't do anything, scummy mcscumster and his partner are now in charge of the mission?  Even if we think the Captain and First Mate are townies, we should still make scum sink in the order.

[pingpongsam]

SO it was scummy to call for people to vote... but you're intending to leave your vote on him ?

Any consideration to the fact that gkrieg didn't hesitate at all to claim Inara ?

Actually I was intending to get a reaction. Does Inara have to be town by necessity?

[pingpongsam]

Well wait, if we think someone is scummy, we really should vote for them.

Agreed, Vote: Gkrieg

Are you serious right now?

While somewhat tongue in cheek that was definitely the scummiest thing I had seen all day so I was just following direction.

What I was saying is that leaving things as they are seems bad.  Why shouldn't we try to sink the scums lower in the ordering?

I don't disagree except that at the point of your posting I hadn't seen anything at all that could inform a scum read so it struck me quite odd to suggest that we start voting scum reads.

[Teproc]

SO it was scummy to call for people to vote... but you're intending to leave your vote on him ?

Any consideration to the fact that gkrieg didn't hesitate at all to claim Inara ?

Actually I was intending to get a reaction. Does Inara have to be town by necessity?

Have you read the whole thread ? Flavor and alignment are unrelated, but Inara claiming was very, very pro-town... scum would have had to do it eventually, but gkrieg didn't hesitate at all, where I think scum would have tried to see if people were afraid enough of claiming to get away with not doing it.

[Teproc]

gkrieg, you haven't answered my question. If you think this, why the hell did you accept immediately ? I actually agree, but now we're in a situation where anyone can end the day anytime they want, which I don't like at all.

[gkrieg13]

gkrieg, you haven't answered my question. If you think this, why the hell did you accept immediately ? I actually agree, but now we're in a situation where anyone can end the day anytime they want, which I don't like at all.

I didn't realize that the day ended when the majority had accepted.  In hindsight, I definitely should have waited, so that we could have discussion and vote and stuff.

[pingpongsam]

Unvote

[gkrieg13]

I did read the setup, but there is a lot of stuff to parse, and I tend to not realize something is super important, until it is actually super important.