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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1075 on: July 26, 2017, 04:06:06 am »

Oh wow, thanks. That's surprising
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1076 on: July 26, 2017, 04:46:50 am »

Oh wow, thanks. That's surprising
Not if you know what happened behind the scenes. You stopped me protecting PPS on the night that he died. We would have been nearly unstoppable then. My doctor power was the thing making people lynchproof.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1077 on: July 26, 2017, 04:49:21 am »

I did say a couple of times that us scum should come up with fake powers to claim, we just never did it. I think my meekness came from inexperience - I didn't quite have enough data to know what kind of powers would be possible/likely and I should be claiming.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1078 on: July 26, 2017, 04:50:27 am »

I was going to look at things more in depth to make sure (and account for stuff like what would happen if you were scum), but, well, CJ hammered.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1079 on: July 26, 2017, 05:00:50 am »

I did say a couple of times that us scum should come up with fake powers to claim, we just never did it. I think my meekness came from inexperience - I didn't quite have enough data to know what kind of powers would be possible/likely and I should be claiming.
Yeah, it's hard to do this in your first scum game. But pingpongsam has done some good fakeclaims in the past; I expected him to push for it more strongly.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1080 on: July 26, 2017, 08:59:10 am »

Hey, we won ! We had correctly PoEd CJ (despite his great play I must say, can't trust that guy ever again), but it looks like the mission plan was riskier than we had accounted for.

Also, my use of PR was hilariously bad, I think.

Oh, and sorry WW.

It didn't make a lot of sense to me; it seemed so blatantly obvious that I was town, since I never play that way as scum.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1081 on: July 26, 2017, 09:01:46 am »

Hey, we won ! We had correctly PoEd CJ (despite his great play I must say, can't trust that guy ever again), but it looks like the mission plan was riskier than we had accounted for.

Also, my use of PR was hilariously bad, I think.

Oh, and sorry WW.

It didn't make a lot of sense to me; it seemed so blatantly obvious that I was town, since I neer play that way as scum.

I don't think of your town play as being anti-town, which I felt you were blatantly being. It didn't particularly coincide with your scum play, but since it was anti-town I figured it was just scum!you  judging that the high risk of being lynched was worth it.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1082 on: July 26, 2017, 09:03:53 am »

Well, my plan would have worked had LaLight not messed with me.  And it didn't make a lot of sense for me to inform scum about how I could catch them.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1083 on: July 26, 2017, 09:05:11 am »

Well, my plan would have worked had LaLight not messed with me.  And it didn't make a lot of sense for me to inform scum about how I could catch them.

Yeah, I am sorry, but you looked like scum to me. I remembered being your partner at Stranger Things and saw some similarities, so I thought that would be useful to block you. If you'll see into my QT I changed my decision like million times that day
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1084 on: July 26, 2017, 09:07:51 am »

It's alright.  It always seems like my PRs never work out, though.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1085 on: July 26, 2017, 09:10:28 am »

And I hadn't thought everything through on Day 2, but I wanted to do something.  I think it's okay to be reckless now and again.  And in general it's a more town thing than scum thing.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1086 on: July 26, 2017, 09:50:18 am »

And I hadn't thought everything through on Day 2, but I wanted to do something.  I think it's okay to be reckless now and again.  And in general it's a more town thing than scum thing.

I specifically thought of ash's play in SUper Mario, which I don't think you were around for. Sometimes scum gets away with stuff like that because of the reasoning... and again, I thought your behaviour (not just the hammer) was way too anti-town to be just that. Obviously we disagree on that.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1087 on: July 26, 2017, 09:51:06 am »

It's also a problem I have with expecting too much from certain players, and when they don't live up to my unfair standards I incorrectly conclude that they must be scum.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1088 on: July 26, 2017, 09:52:18 am »

And by "too much" I guess I mean "to heavily conform to what I think is good play". But we don't agree on what good play is, which is why this fails.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1089 on: July 26, 2017, 09:55:37 am »

Well, yeah.  I was also not being up front about any reads.  CJ was my highest scum read (though it shifted to you on Day 3), but I don't think I really hinted at it anywhere. 

Playing closed off as town is a bit of a risk in itself.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1090 on: July 26, 2017, 09:56:23 am »

It's also a problem I have with expecting too much from certain players, and when they don't live up to my unfair standards I incorrectly conclude that they must be scum.

Well, I don't think it's a problem. It's much more fair to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they are acting the way they are because they're scum, not because they're bad players, and it's also beneficial for town if we can do that and everyone can live up to everyone's standards.
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Re: RMM44: Firefly Mafia (Game over!)
« Reply #1091 on: July 26, 2017, 09:59:03 am »

It is a problem if it leads me to push mislynches.
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