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[gkrieg13]

Of those one the wagon, Eevee and Gkrieg were the only two to vote with nothing but the vote itself in the post.

For you two, please elaborate on your read and reason for climbing on the wagon.

Gkrieg in particular, you did so AFTER he said both "I have a plan", and "it involves me claiming" - do you really think pushing him to out a potential PR is worthwhile here? He could simply be a VT playing the WIFOM game. He could also be scum. Please explain your reasons for the vote.

For me it was the I have a plan part, and saying that he will claim at L-1 seems like a scum thing to say.  People almost always claim at L-1, unless they think it is a stupid thing to do (usually in closed setups).  Here doing this stuff in bold, where you say that you will claim and that you have a plan is very scummy to me.

[Galzria]

Alright folks, I'm off to lunch-ish activities for a few hours. No work this evening, so I'll be back to look over the J Reggie wagon a bit more later.

[LaLight]

overall my townreads are:

O
Galzria
Space
gkrieg at some amount

[Robz888]

Vote Count 1.10

mcmcsalot (3): JaketheBaseballGod22, SpaceAnemone, LaLight
J Reggie (6): Galzria, 2.7128...., Dylan32, The_Wine_Merchant, iguanaiguana, gkrieg13
The_Wine_Merchant (4): J Reggie, ashersky, mcmcsalot, sudgy
Awaclus (1): O
sudgy (2): faust, Eevee
O (1): Awaclus
AndrewisFTTW (1): pingpongsam
gkrieg13 (1): AndrewisFTTW
RoadRunner7671 (1): Cuzz

Not Voting (3): Calamitas, RoadRunner7671, Jimmmmm,

With 23 alive it takes just 10 to lynch. Day 1 ends on Tuesday, May 23, at 10:00 AM Forum Time.

[faust]

In all - that's a long way of saying that I would expect to find at least one scum among the 8 people on the J Reggie wagon.

That is a pretty empty statement considering how low the chances are that any random set of 8 people contains 0 scum.

[LaLight]

vote: J Reggie

I find him overall scummy but I find more scummy the fact how quickly the wagon derailed after Jimmmmm said not to hurry up. Like this was the thing scum has waited for to jump off their partner.

[Galzria]

In all - that's a long way of saying that I would expect to find at least one scum among the 8 people on the J Reggie wagon.

That is a pretty empty statement considering how low the chances are that any random set of 8 people contains 0 scum.

In all - that's a long way of saying that I would expect to find at least one scum among the 8 people on the J Reggie wagon.

I mean...I could've told you that. In any group of 8 players, there's probably at least one scum. However, if you think there's only one scum, we should probably look somewhere else. I prefer 5/15 to 1/8.

Obviously. But you know what's different between "any group of 8 players" and "8 players on one wagon"? The 8 players on one wagon have something in common to analyze. And I did specify that I would expect "at least one", not "only one". I think our odds of finding scum by looking at the people on the wagon are much better than by randomly picking people in a thread of 23. That's kind of the point of wagons.

[LaLight]

and now we will talktalktalk, the initial wagon will be forgotten and J Reggie wouldn't be lynched. M86 is so fresh in my memory (though i was his partner)

[LaLight]

our games lately are mostly lost by us because we don't lynch obvscum, that's my point.

[LaLight]

also I have an mpression people just ignore me most of the game. Not cool

[The_Wine_Merchant]

also I have an mpression people just ignore me most of the game. Not cool

^Not ignoring!

[LaLight]

also I have an mpression people just ignore me most of the game. Not cool

^Not ignoring!

aw thanks, that was the most meaningful post of mine not to ignore

[gkrieg13]

But it also tells scum who is more likely to get a PR and who isn't very likely.

Not really if it's not #1. My thought is that there useful, mediocre and pretty bad boxes. And I think every box has its contestants, like numbers 20-25 would fight for 12-11 etc.

Well the ones at the end of the draft order certainly didn't get anything.  The chances are extremely low for them, so they will be VTs.

[gkrieg13]

My townies are currently:

TWM
e
faust
ash (for now)
J Reggie

Added here are:

Awaclus
iguana
Space
Cuzz
galz

Why am i not here?

You haven't done anything super townie yet.  I guess I just don't feel like I have a read on you yet.

[LaLight]

But it also tells scum who is more likely to get a PR and who isn't very likely.

Not really if it's not #1. My thought is that there useful, mediocre and pretty bad boxes. And I think every box has its contestants, like numbers 20-25 would fight for 12-11 etc.

Well the ones at the end of the draft order certainly didn't get anything.  The chances are extremely low for them, so they will be VTs.

I have some more thoughts on topic, but I am not sure telling them is protown

Noted about the read.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Also, where is Jake?  This seems very uncharacteristic of him.

Hi. I'm interested to hear the J Reggie plan so I may be willing to push him to L-1 for it but with the current case I'm not ready to lynch him yet. I don't get the case on sudgy at all.

Jake. The whole reason of the plan is to resist a lynch and be useful. Otherwise JR just would've told it. "Willing to put to L-1 but not willing to lynch" is so nonsense!

I said for now LL. I don't wanna lynch now because we're so early in the day as well but as we grow closer to the deadline I would be willing to lynch J Reggie. I want to hear the plan because truthfully I doubt that there is one and it's just to avoid a lynch. With that I will Vote J Reggie

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Also, where is Jake?  This seems very uncharacteristic of him.

Hi. I'm interested to hear the J Reggie plan so I may be willing to push him to L-1 for it but with the current case I'm not ready to lynch him yet. I don't get the case on sudgy at all.

Jake. The whole reason of the plan is to resist a lynch and be useful. Otherwise JR just would've told it. "Willing to put to L-1 but not willing to lynch" is so nonsense!

I said for now LL. I don't wanna lynch now because we're so early in the day as well but as we grow closer to the deadline I would be willing to lynch J Reggie. I want to hear the plan because truthfully I doubt that there is one and it's just to avoid a lynch. With that I will Vote J Reggie

THIS IS L-2

[LaLight]

Also, where is Jake?  This seems very uncharacteristic of him.

Hi. I'm interested to hear the J Reggie plan so I may be willing to push him to L-1 for it but with the current case I'm not ready to lynch him yet. I don't get the case on sudgy at all.

Jake. The whole reason of the plan is to resist a lynch and be useful. Otherwise JR just would've told it. "Willing to put to L-1 but not willing to lynch" is so nonsense!

I said for now LL. I don't wanna lynch now because we're so early in the day as well but as we grow closer to the deadline I would be willing to lynch J Reggie. I want to hear the plan because truthfully I doubt that there is one and it's just to avoid a lynch. With that I will Vote J Reggie

THIS IS L-2

This is not. Include the colon

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Also, where is Jake?  This seems very uncharacteristic of him.

Hi. I'm interested to hear the J Reggie plan so I may be willing to push him to L-1 for it but with the current case I'm not ready to lynch him yet. I don't get the case on sudgy at all.

Jake. The whole reason of the plan is to resist a lynch and be useful. Otherwise JR just would've told it. "Willing to put to L-1 but not willing to lynch" is so nonsense!

I said for now LL. I don't wanna lynch now because we're so early in the day as well but as we grow closer to the deadline I would be willing to lynch J Reggie. I want to hear the plan because truthfully I doubt that there is one and it's just to avoid a lynch. With that I will Vote J Reggie

THIS IS L-2

This is not. Include the colon

Whoops Vote: J Reggie

[pingpongsam]

The latest interactions have me getting a slight scum vibe off Cuzz. I'm not sure but I think a scum!Cuzz is pretty enthusiastic about claiming Bid Order. Correct me if I am wrong but bid order is also hidden from scum, yes? If so, we are not just discovering information they have but giving them more.

Could vote Jake for being so anti-utility around here.

Not feeling great about LaLight.

Note, these are all big improvements over me townreading a bunch of people and being supremely null on everyone else.

[Cuzz]

The latest interactions have me getting a slight scum vibe off Cuzz. I'm not sure but I think a scum!Cuzz is pretty enthusiastic about claiming Bid Order. Correct me if I am wrong but bid order is also hidden from scum, yes? If so, we are not just discovering information they have but giving them more.

Could vote Jake for being so anti-utility around here.

Not feeling great about LaLight.

Note, these are all big improvements over me townreading a bunch of people and being supremely null on everyone else.

I have no recollection of mentioning bid order anywhere. Certainly not enthusiastically.

[pingpongsam]

The latest interactions have me getting a slight scum vibe off Cuzz. I'm not sure but I think a scum!Cuzz is pretty enthusiastic about claiming Bid Order. Correct me if I am wrong but bid order is also hidden from scum, yes? If so, we are not just discovering information they have but giving them more.

Could vote Jake for being so anti-utility around here.

Not feeling great about LaLight.

Note, these are all big improvements over me townreading a bunch of people and being supremely null on everyone else.

I have no recollection of mentioning bid order anywhere. Certainly not enthusiastically.

Nope, you're right, that was Space. The avatar thing messed me up. Like, they're the same color scheme and stuff, or something.

[Cuzz]

Gotcha

[mcmcsalot]

Also, where is Jake?  This seems very uncharacteristic of him.

Hi. I'm interested to hear the J Reggie plan so I may be willing to push him to L-1 for it but with the current case I'm not ready to lynch him yet. I don't get the case on sudgy at all.

Jake. The whole reason of the plan is to resist a lynch and be useful. Otherwise JR just would've told it. "Willing to put to L-1 but not willing to lynch" is so nonsense!

I agree with you lalight but town!jake says that ten times over before scum!jake says that.

[mcmcsalot]

vote: J Reggie

I find him overall scummy but I find more scummy the fact how quickly the wagon derailed after Jimmmmm said not to hurry up. Like this was the thing scum has waited for to jump off their partner.

Again maybe it's just me but in a game this huge I don't get why scum would be on wagon at all. Helping town lynch scum day 1 is like helping town put scum in the worst possible position they can be. Scum almost never wins when we hit scum day one. Also it's day one, none of the cases are that great so it's not like scum is going to look wierd being off wagon.

You either think jreggie is scum and his wagon disbanded because townies are always really cautious about lynching. Or you think jreggie is town and scum was pushing his wagon but trying to not pile all on and town cooled of the wagon to give people time to catch up and couple check things.

This post from lalight sounds way more like scum who didn't want to have to join the wagon now being worried it's going to go away completely. Though this isn't a great theory because again, it's a huge game, scum could just pivot toward a different town wagon. (Though I'm town and lalight was trying to get that going to limited success).