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[mcmcsalot]

Space, lalaight, and iguana will you do a reread of just twm and if you want me as well and then post your conclusions. I find all of you towny, and I find all of your votes in bad places.

On the other hand space if you would like to do a lalight reread and explain why you find him scummy I'll take that as well.

Eevee, jimm, 2.7, Gkrieg, still want you to weigh in on O (whose not ozzle, so I know less about him then I thought)

[O]

Lynching on the basis of lurking is retarded.

Vote:Awaclus

really all the confirmation I needed that Awaclus's mafia persona is a edgier version of my 16 year old self's.

Lynching on the basis of rude, unhelpful one-liners surely won't be some exceedingly pro-town strategy, but I've already stated I put pro-fun before pro-town so at least I'm consistent.

[pingpongsam]

I can't really get who's more scummier, mcmc or TWM

mcmc hasn't struck me as scummy at all even once. in fact, all the suggestions that he might be are striking me as scummy.

TWM, meh, null. i don't have any issues with people calling him scummy.

[O]

Vote: Awaclus

damn vote formats.

[pingpongsam]

The purpose of my post was to get O to understand why everyone is against him. If that's fluff then, uh, woops.

maybe, but i do agree with the initial assessment of your insertion.

[2.71828.....]

Space, lalaight, and iguana will you do a reread of just twm and if you want me as well and then post your conclusions. I find all of you towny, and I find all of your votes in bad places.

On the other hand space if you would like to do a lalight reread and explain why you find him scummy I'll take that as well.

Eevee, jimm, 2.7, Gkrieg, still want you to weigh in on O (whose not ozzle, so I know less about him then I thought)

I find O to be a very useful pro-town player right now and would greatly object to lynching him today.

I am interested in your list of players you asked for opinions. 2 on your wagon, and two not-as-active players. Why us four?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Back to Vote: mcmc

I don't want to tunnel, I specifically remember a game where I found liopoil(someone I was scum with his first time) scummy early day one and I confirmation biased everything from them on and he turned out to be town.

But man this looks like you gave up pushing me because it wasn't going to work out for you(the votes didn't come for me and they stayed on you). Your reason for unvoting me was because I told people to write stuff down with is as you pointed out pro-town but not towny. Now I explain why setup speculation is really bad for town on day 1 which is also pro-town but not towny and you decide to vote me again.

Can you give me your reasoning for re voting me, like what exactly you found scummy about my recent posts?

I have confirmation bias and everything you are doing is scummy to me.

[Awaclus]

Lynching on the basis of rude, unhelpful one-liners surely won't be some exceedingly pro-town strategy, but I've already stated I put pro-fun before pro-town so at least I'm consistent.

Why are you playing the game if you're not even trying to win?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

But that doesn't mean I am wrong and I am trying to be aware of my bias.

[pingpongsam]

Lynching on the basis of lurking is retarded.

I was under the impression that there was a civility pledge in this community. If I am mistaken about that let me know now and I'll replace out.

Are you just triggered by the use of that word or are you seriously offended by the assertion that lynching lurkers D1 in a 20+ person game is really low on the scale of effective strategies?

If the former, I'm not seeing it as a violation of the pledge until you ask for that to stop and it continues, if the latter, I'm not seeing as a violation of the pledge ever.

[O]

Lynching on the basis of rude, unhelpful one-liners surely won't be some exceedingly pro-town strategy, but I've already stated I put pro-fun before pro-town so at least I'm consistent.

Why are you playing the game if you're not even trying to win?

I'm pretty sure I answered that twice, to have fun. Please do try and keep up. Winning is a primary vehicle to that objective but not the only one and not always a necessary one.

Mafia is a social party game, if I wanted to play purely for competition I'd play dominion or chess.

[Awaclus]

I'm pretty sure I answered that twice, to have fun.

So your fun is more important than the fun of 22 other people who joined up for the game? Fucking hell.

[pingpongsam]

Lynching on the basis of rude, unhelpful one-liners surely won't be some exceedingly pro-town strategy, but I've already stated I put pro-fun before pro-town so at least I'm consistent.

Why are you playing the game if you're not even trying to win?

I'm pretty sure I answered that twice, to have fun. Please do try and keep up. Winning is a primary vehicle to that objective but not the only one and not always a necessary one.

Mafia is a social party game, if I wanted to play purely for competition I'd play dominion or chess.

See, this is where O and I are very much of the same mind.

[O]

I'm pretty sure I answered that twice, to have fun.

So your fun is more important than the fun of 22 other people who joined up for the game? Fucking hell.

No, I'm quite confident everyone but you would have more fun in this game if you were more pleasant.

I'm actually the one here prioritizing the fun of 22 people here.

[Awaclus]

I'm actually the one here prioritizing the fun of 22 people here.

By joining up for games and purposefully not playing properly. Right.

[J Reggie]

I'm pretty sure I answered that twice, to have fun.

So your fun is more important than the fun of 22 other people who joined up for the game? Fucking hell.

My fun and the fun of hopefully the majority of mafia players and people who play games in general is more important than the fun of one person who only cares about winning at all costs no matter whose feelings he hurts or what damage he causes. Seriously, if you're only playing to win and not to have fun doing it, what are you really doing?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I'm pretty sure I answered that twice, to have fun.

So your fun is more important than the fun of 22 other people who joined up for the game? Fucking hell.

I am having way more fun with O than I have had with others. So please leave me off your list of 22 people. Thanks.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

vote: Awaclus

[Awaclus]

My fun and the fun of hopefully the majority of mafia players and people who play games in general is more important than the fun of one person who only cares about winning at all costs no matter whose feelings he hurts or what damage he causes. Seriously, if you're only playing to win and not to have fun doing it, what are you really doing?

If you're not playing to win, you're pulling off a reinoe.

[O]

I'm actually the one here prioritizing the fun of 22 people here.

By joining up for games and purposefully not playing properly. Right.

We have differing definitions of properly. Using this board to get your rocks off in some overly aggressive, overly personal debating style is not proper in my opinion. That's what Reddit is for or something.

Unless you can get some consensus here I have no clue why I should accept your view of what is proper.

[Awaclus]

Unless you can get some consensus here I have no clue why I should accept your view of what is proper.

Trying to win is proper because that way you don't ruin the game for everyone else.

[O]

Unless you can get some consensus here I have no clue why I should accept your view of what is proper.

Trying to win is proper because that way you don't ruin the game for everyone else.

I certainly am trying to win. And I certainly don't think I'm ruining the game for everyone else. So far I'm definitely not ruining it for me, TWM, J Reggie and probably Cuzz. I appear to be ruining it for you. I apologize, but at the same time I admittedly don't care enough to change anything about that.

[Cuzz]

Lynching on the basis of lurking is retarded.

I was under the impression that there was a civility pledge in this community. If I am mistaken about that let me know now and I'll replace out.

Are you just triggered by the use of that word or are you seriously offended by the assertion that lynching lurkers D1 in a 20+ person game is really low on the scale of effective strategies?

If the former, I'm not seeing it as a violation of the pledge until you ask for that to stop and it continues, if the latter, I'm not seeing as a violation of the pledge ever.

I find that word inherently uncivil. This is not RSP though and I will not participate in a discussion adjudicating that position.

[Awaclus]

I certainly am trying to win.

Then you must be not town. Vote: O

[J Reggie]

My fun and the fun of hopefully the majority of mafia players and people who play games in general is more important than the fun of one person who only cares about winning at all costs no matter whose feelings he hurts or what damage he causes. Seriously, if you're only playing to win and not to have fun doing it, what are you really doing?

If you're not playing to win, you're pulling off a reinoe.

I think I'm done with this conversation. Let me know when we get back to scumhunting.