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[Eevee]

Just assuming Reggie is going to flip scum seems like a reach.

Like, if that happens, mcmc is totally justified in what he did, of course. Still more likely than not he is town, though, must be? Feels crazy you are doing analysis expecting a scum flip.

[mcmcsalot]

Did hammer hero consideration influence your decision to hammer, I wonder?

Yes but only because you asked about if hammerhero!jreggie could still shoot if he hammered himself. At first I thought no way, but then I remembered scum qt does open in twilight. I still don't think that would be the case but that was a very very very small part of not wanting jreggie to hammer himself.

[O]

Just assuming Reggie is going to flip scum seems like a reach.

Like, if that happens, mcmc is totally justified in what he did, of course. Still more likely than not he is town, though, must be? Feels crazy you are doing analysis expecting a scum flip.

who is this aimed at? I was supposing a town flip.

[faust]

Did hammer hero consideration influence your decision to hammer, I wonder?

Yes but only because you asked about if hammerhero!jreggie could still shoot if he hammered himself. At first I thought no way, but then I remembered scum qt does open in twilight. I still don't think that would be the case but that was a very very very small part of not wanting jreggie to hammer himself.

It is scummy that TWM put him to L-1 before the question was answered, that's for sure.

[mcmcsalot]

Just assuming Reggie is going to flip scum seems like a reach.

Like, if that happens, mcmc is totally justified in what he did, of course. Still more likely than not he is town, though, must be? Feels crazy you are doing analysis expecting a scum flip.

Sort of. I just hammered him so I really hope he's scum because you know, that why I hammered him. I agree fausts stance of scum!mcmchamerhero hammered scum!jreggie is outrageous.

[O]

At first I thought no way, but then I remembered scum qt does open in twilight.
[/quote]

If I die tonight and J Reggie is town:

SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP

[mcmcsalot]

Did hammer hero consideration influence your decision to hammer, I wonder?

Yes but only because you asked about if hammerhero!jreggie could still shoot if he hammered himself. At first I thought no way, but then I remembered scum qt does open in twilight. I still don't think that would be the case but that was a very very very small part of not wanting jreggie to hammer himself.

It is scummy that TWM put him to L-1 before the question was answered, that's for sure.

Agreed, I am back on thinking you and twm are relatively high scum reads for me. Lalights analysis of the jreggie claim has me finding him much townier.

[faust]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

[mcmcsalot]

At first I thought no way, but then I remembered scum qt does open in twilight.

If I die tonight and J Reggie is town:

SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP

What slip?

[O]

why would you know that or pay such close attention to when the QT is open?

1. you're mafia and know this ahead of time

2. you read the rules, in which case you woulda read:

- Dead players may not post in thread or QT. A lynched player is not "dead" until a flip has been provided.

[faust]

The OP does not mention anything about the scum QT opening at twilight.

[Cuzz]

It's pretty cool that we just ended the day before waiting for a really crucial piece of setup information from the mod.

Letting a dead player perform a night action is close to bastard territory, and acting based on that assumption is unreasonable.

mcmc is obvscum whether or not JReggie flips town.

[mcmcsalot]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

[faust]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

I don't know. Why does town!mcmc?

[mcmcsalot]

The OP does not mention anything about the scum QT opening at twilight.

I guess I do not know that, isn't it always that the scum qt opens in twilight?

[mcmcsalot]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

I don't know. Why does town!mcmc?

BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT SCUM JREGGIE SELF HAMMERING

[faust]

The OP does not mention anything about the scum QT opening at twilight.

I guess I do not know that, isn't it always that the scum qt opens in twilight?

You know, we are all aware that you have been scum before 

[Cuzz]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

IT'S NOT BEING AN OVEREAGER BUFFOON. IT'S BEING A SCUM BUFFOON POORLY EXECUTING THE SCUM PLAN THEY WORKED OUT IN THE QT

[faust]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

I don't know. Why does town!mcmc?

BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT SCUM JREGGIE SELF HAMMERING

Here's a suggestion:

"Please someone unvote J Reggie so that he cannot self-hammer!"

[mcmcsalot]

It's pretty cool that we just ended the day before waiting for a really crucial piece of setup information from the mod.

Letting a dead player perform a night action is close to bastard territory, and acting based on that assumption is unreasonable.

mcmc is obvscum whether or not JReggie flips town.

But I took the hammer so the answer doesn't need to be known right this instant. I do wish twm waited untill robz answered to put jreggie in the position to self hammer in the first place

[O]

I'm willing at this point to assume MCMC is scum even in the unlikely event J Reggie is scum.

1. Hammers without discussing it.

2. Claims vague "what if hammer hero could do night action" bullshit without Robz clarification

3. """"assumes""" scum chat opens twilight, claims he assumed it without checking, but it was also this "assumption" that made him feel like he should hammer in the first place! wouldn't he be confident in this assumption if it led to the deduction he had to hammer?

[pingpongsam]

I'm not seeing in the setup where twilight lasts any specific period of time. I don't recall any PRs that need some time to activate in twilight. I'm assuming we are awaiting Robz to confirm the vote count.

Sheep: Galzria

[mcmcsalot]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

IT'S NOT BEING AN OVEREAGER BUFFOON. IT'S BEING A SCUM BUFFOON POORLY EXECUTING THE SCUM PLAN THEY WORKED OUT IN THE QT

But it's a terrible plan in the first place. From beginning to end. If jreggie and I are both scum jreggie claims vt, someone puts him to l-1, scum!hammerheromcmc hammers him and scum loses member but gains a nk.

Or jreggie does this plan to try to get off of being lynched and then scum!hammerheromcmc stays the hell away and let's this play out.

[mcmcsalot]

I'm not seeing in the setup where twilight lasts any specific period of time. I don't recall any PRs that need some time to activate in twilight. I'm assuming we are awaiting Robz to confirm the vote count.

Sheep: Galzria

sheep: galzria
Other town members should do the same

[Cuzz]

Well clearly scum!mcmc wouldn't hammer town!J Reggie D1 at this point, because man does that look scummy.

maybe you should go back to not trying to read me. Remember mM94 where i was a scum inventor and I gave you a follow power night one and played it cool and acted towny and slowly saved my super strong hammerer invention to get the scum team a double lynch at the end of the game and surprise flawless win. Why here does scum!mcmc act like an overeager buffoon and clamer for the hammer day 1...

IT'S NOT BEING AN OVEREAGER BUFFOON. IT'S BEING A SCUM BUFFOON POORLY EXECUTING THE SCUM PLAN THEY WORKED OUT IN THE QT

But it's a terrible plan in the first place. From beginning to end. If jreggie and I are both scum jreggie claims vt, someone puts him to l-1, scum!hammerheromcmc hammers him and scum loses member but gains a nk.

Or jreggie does this plan to try to get off of being lynched and then scum!hammerheromcmc stays the hell away and let's this play out.

uh, yeah pretty much