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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #500 on: April 01, 2017, 12:05:02 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #501 on: April 01, 2017, 12:10:56 pm »

I would definitely go Robz or Andrew. Feeling less good about Jake right now actually. His last little spat was townie. unvote
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #502 on: April 01, 2017, 12:28:07 pm »

I would definitely go Robz or Andrew. Feeling less good about Jake right now actually. His last little spat was townie. unvote

Ok Hedgy McHedgington. Are you going to vote me or what? Your "scum read" on me has been steadily growing ever since I cast a little suspicion on you despite you not providing a case yourself. Go for it.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #503 on: April 01, 2017, 12:33:56 pm »

I would definitely go Robz or Andrew. Feeling less good about Jake right now actually. His last little spat was townie. unvote

Ok Hedgy McHedgington. Are you going to vote me or what? Your "scum read" on me has been steadily growing ever since I cast a little suspicion on you despite you not providing a case yourself. Go for it.

Not really hedging. The people I have thought were townie at L-1 are now on the townie side of my reads list.

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #504 on: April 01, 2017, 12:35:46 pm »

I knew you could do it!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #505 on: April 01, 2017, 12:46:20 pm »

I'm feeling better about Andrew. Let's get this wagon going!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #506 on: April 01, 2017, 01:06:33 pm »

And everyone goes silent.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #507 on: April 01, 2017, 01:10:24 pm »

I'm feeling better about Andrew. Let's get this wagon going!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #508 on: April 01, 2017, 01:47:41 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?

Scum!Jake puts Space on an unannounced L-1 and asks for claim. I call him on the unannounced part and so he tries to spin it to look towny by saying he just thought the claim was what you do at L-1, but he thought it was L-2.

I'm not sure I buy the whole expecting Andrew to put Space on L-1 while thinking it was L-2.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #509 on: April 01, 2017, 01:50:50 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?

Scum!Jake puts Space on an unannounced L-1 and asks for claim. I call him on the unannounced part and so he tries to spin it to look towny by saying he just thought the claim was what you do at L-1, but he thought it was L-2.

I'm not sure I buy the whole expecting Andrew to put Space on L-1 while thinking it was L-2.

... and that being the reason he asked for the claim early. That sounds like something you come up with after the fact rather than what you actually are thinking on an L-2 vote.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #510 on: April 01, 2017, 01:55:08 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #511 on: April 01, 2017, 01:56:38 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?

Scum!Jake puts Space on an unannounced L-1 and asks for claim. I call him on the unannounced part and so he tries to spin it to look towny by saying he just thought the claim was what you do at L-1, but he thought it was L-2.

I'm not sure I buy the whole expecting Andrew to put Space on L-1 while thinking it was L-2.
This was literally the post before
I actually think I was the one to diffuse both the SA and the Joseph wagons IIRC.

I don't remember about SA, but you definitely were the one that stopped the Joseph wagon, which I still am not sure was a good thing.
So you want to mislynch me? Seems scummy.
No actual reasons given

On the contrary, this^ is scummy. I agree with Jake on SA as well but disagree about gkrieg. Just because gkrieg supposedly sheeps/agrees with SA isn't an indication he's scum. He's pretty null for me actually and I'd rather lynch one of SA or Joseph.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #512 on: April 01, 2017, 01:59:58 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

He was null to me earlier, and now I'm trying to avoid just giving in to OMGUS. Do you remember where your case was? I'll go back and read it.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #513 on: April 01, 2017, 02:01:29 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?

Scum!Jake puts Space on an unannounced L-1 and asks for claim. I call him on the unannounced part and so he tries to spin it to look towny by saying he just thought the claim was what you do at L-1, but he thought it was L-2.

I'm not sure I buy the whole expecting Andrew to put Space on L-1 while thinking it was L-2.
This was literally the post before
I actually think I was the one to diffuse both the SA and the Joseph wagons IIRC.

I don't remember about SA, but you definitely were the one that stopped the Joseph wagon, which I still am not sure was a good thing.
So you want to mislynch me? Seems scummy.
No actual reasons given

On the contrary, this^ is scummy. I agree with Jake on SA as well but disagree about gkrieg. Just because gkrieg supposedly sheeps/agrees with SA isn't an indication he's scum. He's pretty null for me actually and I'd rather lynch one of SA or Joseph.

Ok. There's nothing there that says a vote on SA is looming. People give their lynch preferences and don't follow up with votes all the time.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #514 on: April 01, 2017, 02:02:11 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?

Scum!Jake puts Space on an unannounced L-1 and asks for claim. I call him on the unannounced part and so he tries to spin it to look towny by saying he just thought the claim was what you do at L-1, but he thought it was L-2.

I'm not sure I buy the whole expecting Andrew to put Space on L-1 while thinking it was L-2.
This was literally the post before
I actually think I was the one to diffuse both the SA and the Joseph wagons IIRC.

I don't remember about SA, but you definitely were the one that stopped the Joseph wagon, which I still am not sure was a good thing.
So you want to mislynch me? Seems scummy.
No actual reasons given

On the contrary, this^ is scummy. I agree with Jake on SA as well but disagree about gkrieg. Just because gkrieg supposedly sheeps/agrees with SA isn't an indication he's scum. He's pretty null for me actually and I'd rather lynch one of SA or Joseph.

Ok. There's nothing there that says a vote on SA is looming. People give their lynch preferences and don't follow up with votes all the time.

Edit: "don't *immediately* follow up with votes"
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #515 on: April 01, 2017, 02:07:27 pm »


What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

How does it benefit Jake to lie about that? What's scum!Jake's master plan here?

Scum!Jake puts Space on an unannounced L-1 and asks for claim. I call him on the unannounced part and so he tries to spin it to look towny by saying he just thought the claim was what you do at L-1, but he thought it was L-2.

I'm not sure I buy the whole expecting Andrew to put Space on L-1 while thinking it was L-2.
This was literally the post before
I actually think I was the one to diffuse both the SA and the Joseph wagons IIRC.

I don't remember about SA, but you definitely were the one that stopped the Joseph wagon, which I still am not sure was a good thing.
So you want to mislynch me? Seems scummy.
No actual reasons given

On the contrary, this^ is scummy. I agree with Jake on SA as well but disagree about gkrieg. Just because gkrieg supposedly sheeps/agrees with SA isn't an indication he's scum. He's pretty null for me actually and I'd rather lynch one of SA or Joseph.

Ok. There's nothing there that says a vote on SA is looming. People give their lynch preferences and don't follow up with votes all the time.
Do you have any other reasons that you find me as scum or just this?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #516 on: April 01, 2017, 02:11:42 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

He was null to me earlier, and now I'm trying to avoid just giving in to OMGUS. Do you remember where your case was? I'll go back and read it.

Going back is more sensible... no way can I quote a bunch of useful things in one post from my phone just now.

He was mostly scum-reading me for behaving in what I believed was a totally justified townie way and being super careless about leaving me at L-1.

How long now till deadline? Am about to be offline for a while unless it's really soon, if signal is even cooperating...
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #517 on: April 01, 2017, 02:21:14 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

On phone until deadline sadly
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #518 on: April 01, 2017, 02:23:22 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

He was null to me earlier, and now I'm trying to avoid just giving in to OMGUS. Do you remember where your case was? I'll go back and read it.

Going back is more sensible... no way can I quote a bunch of useful things in one post from my phone just now.

He was mostly scum-reading me for behaving in what I believed was a totally justified townie way and being super careless about leaving me at L-1.

How long now till deadline? Am about to be offline for a while unless it's really soon, if signal is even cooperating...

Ok, I just went back and read 5ish pages and didn't really see a case on him except for you defending yourself. I try not to base reads just on differences of opinions, and that seems to be the biggest thing I see with Andrew.

D2 ends 6 pm forum time this evening.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #519 on: April 01, 2017, 02:25:18 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

He was null to me earlier, and now I'm trying to avoid just giving in to OMGUS. Do you remember where your case was? I'll go back and read it.

Going back is more sensible... no way can I quote a bunch of useful things in one post from my phone just now.

He was mostly scum-reading me for behaving in what I believed was a totally justified townie way and being super careless about leaving me at L-1.

How long now till deadline? Am about to be offline for a while unless it's really soon, if signal is even cooperating...

Obviously we disagree on what is or isn't scummy and obviously you're biased. That doesn't make me scummy in the least. Actually it's pretty OMGUS.

Also you keep saying me leaving you at L-1 is careless. No. It's not. Really. Not at all.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #520 on: April 01, 2017, 02:26:12 pm »

Reads:
Scum - Joseph, Jake
null-slight scum/would lynch: Andrew, Robz
Town - gkrieg, Space

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #521 on: April 01, 2017, 03:29:29 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

He was null to me earlier, and now I'm trying to avoid just giving in to OMGUS. Do you remember where your case was? I'll go back and read it.

Going back is more sensible... no way can I quote a bunch of useful things in one post from my phone just now.

He was mostly scum-reading me for behaving in what I believed was a totally justified townie way and being super careless about leaving me at L-1.

How long now till deadline? Am about to be offline for a while unless it's really soon, if signal is even cooperating...

Ok, I just went back and read 5ish pages and didn't really see a case on him except for you defending yourself. I try not to base reads just on differences of opinions, and that seems to be the biggest thing I see with Andrew.

D2 ends 6 pm forum time this evening.
your entire scum read against me is based on opinions. If not then please say what it is based on because honestly I've asked everybody multiple times and no one can give me a response.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #522 on: April 01, 2017, 03:47:03 pm »

Very sorry. Don't replace! Catching up now.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #523 on: April 01, 2017, 04:04:47 pm »

I mean my case on Andrew is a lot of POE and some stuff I can't talk about.

Joseph is town because of what he said at L-1. Jake is town because of how he is acting right now. SA seemed townie to me from the beginning and I also town read Dylan for now. I will have a hard time scum reading him this game from mislynching him a couple times in my last two games. That just leaves Robz and Andrew.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D2)
« Reply #524 on: April 01, 2017, 04:06:08 pm »

And everyone goes silent.

Do you want to put forward a case on Andrew maybe?  When I was scum-reading him earlier, neither you nor Dylan seemed that interested, which worries me slightly.

He was null to me earlier, and now I'm trying to avoid just giving in to OMGUS. Do you remember where your case was? I'll go back and read it.

Going back is more sensible... no way can I quote a bunch of useful things in one post from my phone just now.

He was mostly scum-reading me for behaving in what I believed was a totally justified townie way and being super careless about leaving me at L-1.

How long now till deadline? Am about to be offline for a while unless it's really soon, if signal is even cooperating...

Ok, I just went back and read 5ish pages and didn't really see a case on him except for you defending yourself. I try not to base reads just on differences of opinions, and that seems to be the biggest thing I see with Andrew.

D2 ends 6 pm forum time this evening.
your entire scum read against me is based on opinions. If not then please say what it is based on because honestly I've asked everybody multiple times and no one can give me a response.

Literally every read in this game is based on opinions. Excluding PR gained info, literally everything everyone does in this game is based on opinions and interpretations of what has been said.  My opinion is that you have seemed somewhat scummy.  But personally, I am more motivated by the POE I laid out earlier that narrowed it down to Robz, Joseph, and you for today, because I think lynching one of the 3 of you is our best chance for hitting scum.  And since no one apparently wants to lynch Robz--who just showed up--because of his complete absence, you or Joseph seem like the best bets to me.

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