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[SpaceAnemone]

Could one of you people who's at a computer just take it upon yourself to count votes please? I always feels a bit rude to me to demand a count from the mod... but right now on a phone till well after the deadline, doing a space count myself is a bit too hard (my signal is bad enough that I only get a requested page about one time in four our five attempts).

Unless it's L-1 with intent, then I'm not claiming. Unfortunately, I don't even think that particular behaviour is scummy from Jake because he has a history of expecting claims at L-1 as a matter of course, so I don't think he's ever considered the utility balance in it, as scum or as town.

[Joseph2302]

Request: Vote Count, because I always count it wrong

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Dylan is safe for now. I'd consider a Jake lynch, Space not such a good lynch IMO

[Joseph2302]

Vote Count 2.Joseph

SpaceAnemone (3): Robz888, AndrewisFTTW, JaketheBaseballGod22
Dylan32 (1): Joseph2302
Joseph2302 (2): Dylan32, SpaceAnemone

not voting (1): gkrieg13

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 2 ends Saturday, April 1st at 6pm forum time.

So 12 hours to go, Space is on L-1

[Joseph2302]

Would lynch: Dylan, Jake
Could lynch: Robz, Space, Andrew
Don't want to lynch: gkrieg, Joseph2302

[Joseph2302]

I'l try to be around some point before deadline

[SpaceAnemone]

Ha, no way am I supporting a Dylan lynch just now.

vote: Jake to see whether there's traction there, since I'm still hesitant to push Robz in absentia.

Though with this little engagement in a game that's shaping up to be pretty shots so far, I do think replacement is an option Robz and schadd could maybe consider...

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Would lynch: Dylan, Jake
Could lynch: Robz, Space, Andrew
Don't want to lynch: gkrieg, Joseph2302

Would happily lynch: Dylan, Space, gkrieg
Would maybe lynch: Robz
Would not lynch: Andrew, Joseph Jake

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Also can anyone just say why their voting me because from what I hear mosts peoples reads on me are null to town? please say so if I am wrong.

[AndrewisFTTW]

@Jake: I am not a he!!!

Also @Jake: my early case on Robz had a lot more to it than just not being happy about him refusing to involve himself in the claiming exercise. For instance, he kept accusing me of being against/hesitant on the PPS wagon (!), and ignored at least two requests by me to back up his position with examples -- and that was before he disappeared entirely from the game.

@Andrew: I did say several things about set-up earlier in the game, and nobody joined in a conversation. I can't throw setup ideas back and forth all by myself (well, not with much success or any rapid successions of new insights), though.

@gkrieg & @Dylan: if you two both feel like Jake and Robz are the lynch pool for today, I'm willing to vote either one, though I'd readout like to see Robz back in the game first!!

sorry but your still scum Vote: SA only because it looks like gkrieg is not happening.
SA role?

Unannounced L-1 and demand for claim right here ^

Isn't that what you ask for at L-1 before you lynch someone and sorry but i thought it was L-2 but i guess not (which i'm fine with)

Townslip? Even if it's not, Jake is pretty damn towny. Dylan less so for the pushback on this.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I might not be here for deadline, not sure. But I wont be home today.

[Dylan32]

@Jake: I am not a he!!!

Also @Jake: my early case on Robz had a lot more to it than just not being happy about him refusing to involve himself in the claiming exercise. For instance, he kept accusing me of being against/hesitant on the PPS wagon (!), and ignored at least two requests by me to back up his position with examples -- and that was before he disappeared entirely from the game.

@Andrew: I did say several things about set-up earlier in the game, and nobody joined in a conversation. I can't throw setup ideas back and forth all by myself (well, not with much success or any rapid successions of new insights), though.

@gkrieg & @Dylan: if you two both feel like Jake and Robz are the lynch pool for today, I'm willing to vote either one, though I'd readout like to see Robz back in the game first!!

sorry but your still scum Vote: SA only because it looks like gkrieg is not happening.
SA role?

Unannounced L-1 and demand for claim right here ^

Isn't that what you ask for at L-1 before you lynch someone and sorry but i thought it was L-2 but i guess not (which i'm fine with)

Townslip? Even if it's not, Jake is pretty damn towny. Dylan less so for the pushback on this.

I just caught something in Jake's explanation. "isn't that what you ask at l-1" implied he thought it was L-1 because he knew to ask the question then, but then he said he thought it was L-2 to avoid the pressure of the unannounced L-1. That's super scummy!

[gkrieg13]

vote: Jake

[gkrieg13]

Would also go Robz or Andrew.

[gkrieg13]

Ha, no way am I supporting a Dylan lynch just now.

vote: Jake to see whether there's traction there, since I'm still hesitant to push Robz in absentia.

Though with this little engagement in a game that's shaping up to be pretty shots so far, I do think replacement is an option Robz and schadd could maybe consider...

That is one argument for Robz being scum. As town I think he would've replaced by now, because clearly he is being anti town in such a small game.

request prod and replacement for Robz.

[Dylan32]

Joseph did not include my vote on Jake, so that's L-1

[Dylan32]

At least I don't remember moving my vote back to Joseph. In case I did, vote: Jake L-1

[Dylan32]

Furthermore, @Andrew, how on earth were you reading Jake's explanation of L-1 as a townslip?

[gkrieg13]

Interesting that we have this weird 3v 3 with Joseph in the middle. Jake and Andrew don't want to lynch each other (and I'm putting Robz in your camp because you are using his vote) and SA and Dylan and me don't really want to lynch each other.

I wonder if scum is all in one camp, or if they have split themselves. I would expect vet scum not to bus. So I would actually expect a Robz Andrew team here.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Can not one person who is voting for me say why they are?!?!?!?

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

@Jake: I am not a he!!!

Also @Jake: my early case on Robz had a lot more to it than just not being happy about him refusing to involve himself in the claiming exercise. For instance, he kept accusing me of being against/hesitant on the PPS wagon (!), and ignored at least two requests by me to back up his position with examples -- and that was before he disappeared entirely from the game.

@Andrew: I did say several things about set-up earlier in the game, and nobody joined in a conversation. I can't throw setup ideas back and forth all by myself (well, not with much success or any rapid successions of new insights), though.

@gkrieg & @Dylan: if you two both feel like Jake and Robz are the lynch pool for today, I'm willing to vote either one, though I'd readout like to see Robz back in the game first!!

sorry but your still scum Vote: SA only because it looks like gkrieg is not happening.
SA role?

Unannounced L-1 and demand for claim right here ^

Isn't that what you ask for at L-1 before you lynch someone and sorry but i thought it was L-2 but i guess not (which i'm fine with)

Townslip? Even if it's not, Jake is pretty damn towny. Dylan less so for the pushback on this.

I just caught something in Jake's explanation. "isn't that what you ask at l-1" implied he thought it was L-1 because he knew to ask the question then, but then he said he thought it was L-2 to avoid the pressure of the unannounced L-1. That's super scummy!

Sorry for the truth being scummy

[Dylan32]

@Jake: I am not a he!!!

Also @Jake: my early case on Robz had a lot more to it than just not being happy about him refusing to involve himself in the claiming exercise. For instance, he kept accusing me of being against/hesitant on the PPS wagon (!), and ignored at least two requests by me to back up his position with examples -- and that was before he disappeared entirely from the game.

@Andrew: I did say several things about set-up earlier in the game, and nobody joined in a conversation. I can't throw setup ideas back and forth all by myself (well, not with much success or any rapid successions of new insights), though.

@gkrieg & @Dylan: if you two both feel like Jake and Robz are the lynch pool for today, I'm willing to vote either one, though I'd readout like to see Robz back in the game first!!

sorry but your still scum Vote: SA only because it looks like gkrieg is not happening.
SA role?

Unannounced L-1 and demand for claim right here ^

Isn't that what you ask for at L-1 before you lynch someone and sorry but i thought it was L-2 but i guess not (which i'm fine with)

Townslip? Even if it's not, Jake is pretty damn towny. Dylan less so for the pushback on this.

I just caught something in Jake's explanation. "isn't that what you ask at l-1" implied he thought it was L-1 because he knew to ask the question then, but then he said he thought it was L-2 to avoid the pressure of the unannounced L-1. That's super scummy!

Sorry for the truth being scummy

What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Interesting that we have this weird 3v 3 with Joseph in the middle. Jake and Andrew don't want to lynch each other (and I'm putting Robz in your camp because you are using his vote) and SA and Dylan and me don't really want to lynch each other.

I wonder if scum is all in one camp, or if they have split themselves. I would expect vet scum not to bus. So I would actually expect a Robz Andrew team here.

Would you be open to lynching robz?

[AndrewisFTTW]

@Jake: I am not a he!!!

Also @Jake: my early case on Robz had a lot more to it than just not being happy about him refusing to involve himself in the claiming exercise. For instance, he kept accusing me of being against/hesitant on the PPS wagon (!), and ignored at least two requests by me to back up his position with examples -- and that was before he disappeared entirely from the game.

@Andrew: I did say several things about set-up earlier in the game, and nobody joined in a conversation. I can't throw setup ideas back and forth all by myself (well, not with much success or any rapid successions of new insights), though.

@gkrieg & @Dylan: if you two both feel like Jake and Robz are the lynch pool for today, I'm willing to vote either one, though I'd readout like to see Robz back in the game first!!

sorry but your still scum Vote: SA only because it looks like gkrieg is not happening.
SA role?

Unannounced L-1 and demand for claim right here ^

Isn't that what you ask for at L-1 before you lynch someone and sorry but i thought it was L-2 but i guess not (which i'm fine with)

Townslip? Even if it's not, Jake is pretty damn towny. Dylan less so for the pushback on this.

I just caught something in Jake's explanation. "isn't that what you ask at l-1" implied he thought it was L-1 because he knew to ask the question then, but then he said he thought it was L-2 to avoid the pressure of the unannounced L-1. That's super scummy!

You're right, I missed that. It's weird but not scummy. I've made a similar​ mistake. If he scum he would probably be more careful about all of that. Then again we're talking about Jake here.

Furthermore, @Andrew, how on earth were you reading Jake's explanation of L-1 as a townslip?

I guess I was thinking him unknowingly putting SA to L-1 but I missed the the fact that he asked for a claim when he thought it was L-2. So not a townslip, obviously. Although it is weird, as I said above, I think it's just town!Jake being a little careless.

Interesting that we have this weird 3v 3 with Joseph in the middle. Jake and Andrew don't want to lynch each other (and I'm putting Robz in your camp because you are using his vote) and SA and Dylan and me don't really want to lynch each other.

I wonder if scum is all in one camp, or if they have split themselves. I would expect vet scum not to bus. So I would actually expect a Robz Andrew team here.

What do you mean "using his vote" and who are you referring to exactly?

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

@Jake: I am not a he!!!

Also @Jake: my early case on Robz had a lot more to it than just not being happy about him refusing to involve himself in the claiming exercise. For instance, he kept accusing me of being against/hesitant on the PPS wagon (!), and ignored at least two requests by me to back up his position with examples -- and that was before he disappeared entirely from the game.

@Andrew: I did say several things about set-up earlier in the game, and nobody joined in a conversation. I can't throw setup ideas back and forth all by myself (well, not with much success or any rapid successions of new insights), though.

@gkrieg & @Dylan: if you two both feel like Jake and Robz are the lynch pool for today, I'm willing to vote either one, though I'd readout like to see Robz back in the game first!!

sorry but your still scum Vote: SA only because it looks like gkrieg is not happening.
SA role?

Unannounced L-1 and demand for claim right here ^

Isn't that what you ask for at L-1 before you lynch someone and sorry but i thought it was L-2 but i guess not (which i'm fine with)

Townslip? Even if it's not, Jake is pretty damn towny. Dylan less so for the pushback on this.

I just caught something in Jake's explanation. "isn't that what you ask at l-1" implied he thought it was L-1 because he knew to ask the question then, but then he said he thought it was L-2 to avoid the pressure of the unannounced L-1. That's super scummy!

Sorry for the truth being scummy

What truth? That you thought it was L-1 so you asked for a claim but then lied and said you thought it was L-2? Because that is what it looks like.

The truth that I thought it was L-2 and i thought andrew was about too vote SA because he just said SA was scummy  in the post before. I did not relize Andrew already was voting for SA since there hadn't been a vote count in like 5 pages so i asked for a claim figuring that he was going to be put on L-1 shortly.