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[AndrewisFTTW]

I'm about to be VLA till after the deadline.

My vote on Robz isn't useful because he's still VLA himself. I'll vote: Joseph now. I hope to be on at least by phone from the place I'm going, but I'm really not sure how the data coverage will be...

Isn't this also unannounced L-1?

yeah uhh SA seems very scummy right now. I would be fine with lynching gkrieg or SA.

I don't know how I feel about gkrieg. He came out swinging with all the setup talk, hammered pps with no explanation and since then has been jumping around all over the place, placing votes on three people for little reason.
First he votes me:

vote: Andrew for saying everyone is scum based on the PPS wagon

Then FoS on Jake followed eventually by a vote:

I could actually see Jake as scum here.

vote: Jake

And then Joseph for a supposed scumslip:

vote: Joseph

Scum slip saying that scum knows the setup but not who the rolecop is. Town doesn't know a rolecop exists

Still don't know what to think about him, probably because this is my first game with him.

[gkrieg13]

I wouldn't say that votes on 3 different people in a day is jumping around.

[gkrieg13]

Also, that post is hedgy to the extreme.

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm about to be VLA till after the deadline.

My vote on Robz isn't useful because he's still VLA himself. I'll vote: Joseph now. I hope to be on at least by phone from the place I'm going, but I'm really not sure how the data coverage will be...

Isn't this also unannounced L-1?

I posted my vote count immediately beforehand, so it's not like anyone should be super-surprised at the voting distribution. Not announcing it was am oversight on my part, though.. I was rushing to make sure I wasn't leaving a wasted vote when leaving for my holiday. (Hi from Wales!)

[AndrewisFTTW]

I wouldn't say that votes on 3 different people in a day is jumping around.

I would. It looks like you haven't formulated any reads and are being extra careful to suspect everyone a little bit.

Also, that post is hedgy to the extreme.

Yeah well, I find a lot of people scummy this game but not all of them can be scum.

[gkrieg13]

I'm about to be VLA till after the deadline.

My vote on Robz isn't useful because he's still VLA himself. I'll vote: Joseph now. I hope to be on at least by phone from the place I'm going, but I'm really not sure how the data coverage will be...

Isn't this also unannounced L-1?

I posted my vote count immediately beforehand, so it's not like anyone should be super-surprised at the voting distribution. Not announcing it was am oversight on my part, though.. I was rushing to make sure I wasn't leaving a wasted vote when leaving for my holiday. (Hi from Wales!)

Was just pointing out if anyone had missed it.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I'm about to be VLA till after the deadline.

My vote on Robz isn't useful because he's still VLA himself. I'll vote: Joseph now. I hope to be on at least by phone from the place I'm going, but I'm really not sure how the data coverage will be...

Isn't this also unannounced L-1?

I posted my vote count immediately beforehand, so it's not like anyone should be super-surprised at the voting distribution. Not announcing it was am oversight on my part, though.. I was rushing to make sure I wasn't leaving a wasted vote when leaving for my holiday. (Hi from Wales!)

And yet YOU'RE LEAVING YOUR VOTE ON HIM! SCUM!

[gkrieg13]

I wouldn't say that votes on 3 different people in a day is jumping around.

I would. It looks like you haven't formulated any reads and are being extra careful to suspect everyone a little bit.

Also, that post is hedgy to the extreme.

Yeah well, I find a lot of people scummy this game but not all of them can be scum.

Well I townread Dylan and Space currently.  I'm still on the fence about Robz though.  Not much from him

[Joseph2302]

- Andrew has a right to get mad at comments calling him inactive I guess.

Sure, he's posted more than anyone, but that doesn't mean we can't be miffed at his attitude :-P

 

- There wasn't as much setup talk as I thought. I guess a lot was LL.

There was a fair bit coming from gkrieg. And then I've revived some in D2 concerning implications of claims, but I definitely don't feel like it's been talked out to any great extent at all.

What haven't we talked about? D1 we just went around in circles until we realized we were accomplishing nothing. By all means if you think we need to discuss something else about the setup that we haven't touched upon, go for it!

- 10 of Joseph's posts have come in the last 9ish hours.  In fairness, 7 of mine have been also.

Post count is less meaningful than usual for Joseph in this game: most of his D1 was total fluff, and even now, he's making the same lack-of-attention errors that he was in D1.

But is that a tell for Joseph?

I'm also sorry for quote fails.

I guess I'm just not actively engaged with the game. Sometimes it happens.

Also, why am I on L-1?
Is it because people think I'm being useless and therefore anti-town, or do people actually think I've been scummy (for reasons other than having not contributed)?

[Joseph2302]

And I'm busy most of the evening today, sorry.
Man my time for this game has been so much less than I anticipated

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

- Andrew has a right to get mad at comments calling him inactive I guess.

Sure, he's posted more than anyone, but that doesn't mean we can't be miffed at his attitude :-P

 

- There wasn't as much setup talk as I thought. I guess a lot was LL.

There was a fair bit coming from gkrieg. And then I've revived some in D2 concerning implications of claims, but I definitely don't feel like it's been talked out to any great extent at all.

What haven't we talked about? D1 we just went around in circles until we realized we were accomplishing nothing. By all means if you think we need to discuss something else about the setup that we haven't touched upon, go for it!

- 10 of Joseph's posts have come in the last 9ish hours.  In fairness, 7 of mine have been also.

Post count is less meaningful than usual for Joseph in this game: most of his D1 was total fluff, and even now, he's making the same lack-of-attention errors that he was in D1.

But is that a tell for Joseph?

I'm also sorry for quote fails.

I guess I'm just not actively engaged with the game. Sometimes it happens.

Also, why am I on L-1?
Is it because people think I'm being useless and therefore anti-town, or do people actually think I've been scummy (for reasons other than having not contributed)?

That's what I've been asking and no one can give me a anwser

[gkrieg13]

For me, it is because of the scum slip.

[Joseph2302]

For me, it is because of the scum slip.

Honestly I hadn't even read the setup, I assumed there was a rolecop since every discussion seemed to be about a rolecop

[gkrieg13]

unvote

[SpaceAnemone]

If you were to say "this is usually how I react to wagons regardless of alignment" I would be more inclined to believe you, especially if someone backed you up.

Well, gkrieg could probably tell you about how I make for an easy mislynch target :- P

PPE several because my signal is already getting patchy and we're still not there yet...

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

If you were to say "this is usually how I react to wagons regardless of alignment" I would be more inclined to believe you, especially if someone backed you up.

Well, gkrieg could probably tell you about how I make for an easy mislynch target :- P

PPE several because my signal is already getting patchy and we're still not there yet...

Just because you get mislynched easily(Not even sure if this is true)does not mean your not scum.

[Dylan32]

For me, it is because of the scum slip.

Honestly I hadn't even read the setup, I assumed there was a rolecop since every discussion seemed to be about a rolecop

It would be easier for scum to go without reading the setup here I think, because depending on how descriptive the flavor names that schadd provided are, they might not have needed to even look at the setup post to know what exactly was in the setup, which could lead a busy scum to assume that everyone knew a rolecop was in the setup.

[Robz888]

Hello, very far behind do some personal matters this week, I'm traveling all next wee too but I actually should have some time to catch up here this weekend. Apologies for my long absences, this is just a hell of a two weeks for me.

[schadd]

Vote Count 2.3

SpaceAnemone (2): Robz888, AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): Joseph2302
Joseph2302 (2): Dylan32, SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (1): JaketheBaseballGod22

not voting (1): gkrieg13

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 2 ends Saturday, April 1st at 6pm forum time. this in in about 48hr

[gkrieg13]

I don't think that is in 24 hours, but still very close.

[schadd]

i'm on spring break

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

i'm on spring break

me toooo!!!

[Dylan32]

Did not realize the deadline was that close... 2 days in and we aren't even that close to the 20 page mark.  gkrieg, as the only person not currently voting, what are you thinking and where would you consider putting your vote.

So hopefully my vote speaks for itself, but I actually feel pretty good about leaving it on Joseph.  The combination of the possible scum slip that gkrieg called, the fact scum seems more likely to make setup assumptions without actually reading the setup at all despite all the early game setup discussion, and the fact that his post to get on PPS's wagon was:

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.

Sure. Vote: PPS

Wagon

makes him my preferred lynch for today.

For a small (and therefore I think typically shorter game), we seem like we have made very substantially less progress than we should have by this point.  Of course I guess the way D1 went down has turned this into essentially an extended version of D1 rather than a D2 with good information to use.  The only good thing is that by process of elimination alone, I know there is at least 1 scum on wagon, and I feel like gkrieg and Space have been fairly towny, so between VLA Robz, Jake, and Joseph, the odds of hitting scum there feel pretty good to me. So if need be, I would put a vote anywhere on any of those three today.  I would rather not lynch Robz--strictly because he has had a stated VLA--so I would be down for either Joseph or Jake. I haven't necessarily seen anything about Jake that seemed scummy except for being quieter like his recent scum games.  However, if this is just his new play-style, I don't want to lynch him solely because he is playing (arguably) better.  I do still disagree with several of his arguments, but they haven't looked like scum arguments. So whether you like my case (if you can call it that) or not, the addition of the POE is pretty solid.

[gkrieg13]

I disagree with you about Joseph. When you know it is this kind of setup you read it as scum and Joseph is more like this as town than scum.

I would vote Robz or Jake I think.

[Dylan32]

I disagree with you about Joseph. When you know it is this kind of setup you read it as scum and Joseph is more like this as town than scum.

I would vote Robz or Jake I think.

So which of the VLA-Robz or the not-all-that-scummy-Jake would you prefer? And do you have a better case on Jake than just he was like this is recent scum games?