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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (lesgo!)
« Reply #175 on: March 22, 2017, 12:48:42 pm »

Vote Count 1.1


AndrewisFTTW (2): AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): AndrewisFTTW

not voting (4): AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 ends Tuesday, March 28th at 5pm forum time.

FTFY
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #176 on: March 22, 2017, 12:50:37 pm »

I think for now I'm gonna Vote: Gkrieg because I don't like how in his first few posts it seems like he knows there is a role cop and knows the setup (scum does). Also I have never seen gkrieg come out and talk about setup like this asap

He designed tis setup, of course he has an opinion on it.

Not only that, I was specifically looking for ways that it was broken, and we discussed rolecop a lot actually!  I told schadd that this was one of the problems with the setup, but he said that there is at least one setup where the rolecop doesn't really want to claim, and so that is enough of a deterrent for the role cop not to claim.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (lesgo!)
« Reply #177 on: March 22, 2017, 12:51:13 pm »

Vote Count 1.1


pingpongsam (2): SpaceAnemone, pingpongsam
SpaceAnemone (1): AndrewisFTTW
Robz888 (1): LaLight
LaLight (1): Joseph2302

not voting (4): JaketheBaseballGod22, Robz888, Dylan32, AndrewisFTTW.

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Andrew is both voting me and not voting. Meanwhile gkrieg has evaporated...

I mean I did unvote...
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (lesgo!)
« Reply #178 on: March 22, 2017, 12:51:56 pm »

Vote Count 1.1


AndrewisFTTW (2): AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): AndrewisFTTW

not voting (4): AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW, AndrewisFTTW.

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FTFY

What? Is there something scummy about my voting pattern?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #179 on: March 22, 2017, 12:53:23 pm »

Just realized that could be taken the wrong way. I was referencing your vote count, which is accurate.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #180 on: March 22, 2017, 01:03:44 pm »

I think for now I'm gonna Vote: Gkrieg because I don't like how in his first few posts it seems like he knows there is a role cop and knows the setup (scum does). Also I have never seen gkrieg come out and talk about setup like this asap

He designed tis setup, of course he has an opinion on it.

Not only that, I was specifically looking for ways that it was broken, and we discussed rolecop a lot actually!  I told schadd that this was one of the problems with the setup, but he said that there is at least one setup where the rolecop doesn't really want to claim, and so that is enough of a deterrent for the role cop not to claim.
Menh sure still suspicious though.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (lesgo!)
« Reply #181 on: March 22, 2017, 01:05:33 pm »

Vote Count 1.1


pingpongsam (2): SpaceAnemone, pingpongsam
SpaceAnemone (1): AndrewisFTTW
Robz888 (1): LaLight
LaLight (1): Joseph2302

not voting (4): JaketheBaseballGod22, Robz888, Dylan32, AndrewisFTTW.

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Andrew is both voting me and not voting. Meanwhile gkrieg has evaporated...
solvable in one machine step weooooo
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #182 on: March 22, 2017, 01:13:24 pm »

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (lesgo!)
« Reply #183 on: March 22, 2017, 01:47:02 pm »

M88. You can click a signature on top of the quote :)

That was a billion games ago.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #184 on: March 22, 2017, 02:21:49 pm »

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.

If I am bluffing then I am town and have no real reason to unvote. I am actually scum, I'm not bluffing and then would probably unvote. So, maybe what you were saying was to see if you could force me to unvote, which is probably fine although you should be aware you are entering my frame to do so. Just being clear because I thin what you said and what you meant aren't exactly jiving.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #185 on: March 22, 2017, 02:23:32 pm »

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.

If I am bluffing then I am town and have no real reason to unvote. If I am actually scum, I'm not bluffing and then would probably unvote. So, maybe what you were saying was to see if you could force me to unvote, which is probably fine although you should be aware you are entering my frame to do so. Just being clear because I think what you said and what you meant aren't exactly jiving.

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #186 on: March 22, 2017, 02:40:58 pm »

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.

If I am bluffing then I am town and have no real reason to unvote. I am actually scum, I'm not bluffing and then would probably unvote. So, maybe what you were saying was to see if you could force me to unvote, which is probably fine although you should be aware you are entering my frame to do so. Just being clear because I thin what you said and what you meant aren't exactly jiving.

I was attempting deliberate humour by implying that I didn't think the subject and object of my observation were the same person even though they were the same name... it's much like the very amusing recent vote count LL posted. Maybe more explanation helps? :-)

In all seriousness, I think you voting yourself is a pretty null PPS-ish thing to do, so I'm not going to get my logic in a twist over it.

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #187 on: March 22, 2017, 02:49:08 pm »

In all seriousness, I think you voting yourself is a pretty null PPS-ish thing to do, so I'm not going to get my logic in a twist over it.

Maybe, because you are relatively new. Or maybe you're scum trying to nix my town vibe because the truth is that scum!PPS would never claim to be scum on D1.

I don't see town narrative for intentionally attenuating anther's attempts at generating a town signal. It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #188 on: March 22, 2017, 03:18:04 pm »

It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

You mean other than scum-hunting, discussing how to make the setups work to our advantage, seeing how people react to each other's opinions and all that sort of stuff? I also don't see why anyone should interpret you voting for yourself as such a grand townie gesture in the first place.

You still haven't said what you think of the setup, incidentally!
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #189 on: March 22, 2017, 03:21:44 pm »

In all seriousness, I think you voting yourself is a pretty null PPS-ish thing to do, so I'm not going to get my logic in a twist over it.

Maybe, because you are relatively new. Or maybe you're scum trying to nix my town vibe because the truth is that scum!PPS would never claim to be scum on D1.

I don't see town narrative for intentionally attenuating anther's attempts at generating a town signal. It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

This would have been a much townier thing if your sig wasn't what it is.  ;)

I think given his involvement with creating the setup, gkrieg would have probably started with the rc talk early as either alignment, especially since someone else in the game already knew some of his thoughts and would recognize it if he were to try to hide some info/insight he had. However, the way he has done it suggests town to me.

Vote: Joseph

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #190 on: March 22, 2017, 03:28:20 pm »

In all seriousness, I think you voting yourself is a pretty null PPS-ish thing to do, so I'm not going to get my logic in a twist over it.

Maybe, because you are relatively new. Or maybe you're scum trying to nix my town vibe because the truth is that scum!PPS would never claim to be scum on D1.

I don't see town narrative for intentionally attenuating anther's attempts at generating a town signal. It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

This would have been a much townier thing if your sig wasn't what it is.  ;)

I think given his involvement with creating the setup, gkrieg would have probably started with the rc talk early as either alignment, especially since someone else in the game already knew some of his thoughts and would recognize it if he were to try to hide some info/insight he had. However, the way he has done it suggests town to me.

Vote: Joseph

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #191 on: March 22, 2017, 03:29:04 pm »

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.

If I am bluffing then I am town and have no real reason to unvote. I am actually scum, I'm not bluffing and then would probably unvote. So, maybe what you were saying was to see if you could force me to unvote, which is probably fine although you should be aware you are entering my frame to do so. Just being clear because I thin what you said and what you meant aren't exactly jiving.
Is there a hidden jester in this setup??
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #192 on: March 22, 2017, 03:32:42 pm »

In all seriousness, I think you voting yourself is a pretty null PPS-ish thing to do, so I'm not going to get my logic in a twist over it.

Maybe, because you are relatively new. Or maybe you're scum trying to nix my town vibe because the truth is that scum!PPS would never claim to be scum on D1.

I don't see town narrative for intentionally attenuating anther's attempts at generating a town signal. It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

This would have been a much townier thing if your sig wasn't what it is.  ;)

I think given his involvement with creating the setup, gkrieg would have probably started with the rc talk early as either alignment, especially since someone else in the game already knew some of his thoughts and would recognize it if he were to try to hide some info/insight he had. However, the way he has done it suggests town to me.

Vote: Joseph

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Why?

Why are you not letting him react to it himself before you try to get a reason out of me?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #193 on: March 22, 2017, 03:43:43 pm »

In all seriousness, I think you voting yourself is a pretty null PPS-ish thing to do, so I'm not going to get my logic in a twist over it.

Maybe, because you are relatively new. Or maybe you're scum trying to nix my town vibe because the truth is that scum!PPS would never claim to be scum on D1.

I don't see town narrative for intentionally attenuating anther's attempts at generating a town signal. It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

This would have been a much townier thing if your sig wasn't what it is.  ;)

I think given his involvement with creating the setup, gkrieg would have probably started with the rc talk early as either alignment, especially since someone else in the game already knew some of his thoughts and would recognize it if he were to try to hide some info/insight he had. However, the way he has done it suggests town to me.

Vote: Joseph

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Why?

Why are you not letting him react to it himself before you try to get a reason out of me?
Why?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #194 on: March 22, 2017, 03:50:16 pm »

Also, a few more people should vote PPS just in case he's bluffing about his conviction that PPS is scum this game.
Sure. Vote: PPS

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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #195 on: March 22, 2017, 05:26:28 pm »

It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

You mean other than scum-hunting, discussing how to make the setups work to our advantage, seeing how people react to each other's opinions and all that sort of stuff? I also don't see why anyone should interpret you voting for yourself as such a grand townie gesture in the first place.

You still haven't said what you think of the setup, incidentally!

This is scum hunting. discussing setups is a very silly exercise for me. I haven't read the setup so I can't comment on it.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #196 on: March 22, 2017, 05:52:49 pm »

It's really all town can do at this stage of the game.

You mean other than scum-hunting, discussing how to make the setups work to our advantage, seeing how people react to each other's opinions and all that sort of stuff? I also don't see why anyone should interpret you voting for yourself as such a grand townie gesture in the first place.

You still haven't said what you think of the setup, incidentally!

This is scum hunting. discussing setups is a very silly exercise for me. I haven't read the setup so I can't comment on it.

Just clarifying. Do you think it's a silly exercise? Or a silly exercise for YOU?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #197 on: March 22, 2017, 06:17:11 pm »

Oh, yeah, for me, specifically.
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #198 on: March 22, 2017, 06:21:48 pm »

Okay, I read the setup.

7 possible arrangements in which only 2 can even contain a rolecop and then rolecop returns a vanilla on scum. So why was trying to get a rolecop to claim a good idea?

I tried to think of that from the idea that I am scum and I want town to out the rolecop and it still didn't add up to a good idea. I mean if the rolecop can't actually cop me then why do I care much about him as scum?
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Re: M97: intrigue and treason and stuff (schadnd II) (D1!)
« Reply #199 on: March 22, 2017, 06:24:30 pm »

Okay, I read the setup.

Oh jeez, I'm sorry. You don't have to, really!
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