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[silverspawn]

I really hope that in the counter-factual world where he is not town, you guys are smart enough that I chose him again since I didn't get to saying it explicitly.

[silverspawn]

ok now brb reading the thread...

[silverspawn]

*to know that I chose him again

[faust]

faust is town. I Weak-Visitored him again and this time it actually went through.

Ok, great. Now claim the rest of your actions, and also explicitly what you did N1.

[silverspawn]

Eh. Fine.

So I didn't have a lift in the first 6 cards. I went blue, nothing, WV faust.

And N2 I went WV faust, lift, Zone Monitor Skumpy.

[LaLight]

Eh. Fine.

So I didn't have a lift in the first 6 cards. I went blue, nothing, WV faust.

And N2 I went WV faust, lift, Zone Monitor Skumpy.

Convenient.

[silverspawn]

LaLight is currently throwing suspicion on two town players so he should definitely not determine an order.

[silverspawn]

Convenient.

Why is that convenient?

[LaLight]

Convenient.

Why is that convenient?

On N1 you could kill instead of "nothing". Deck Monitoring of Skumpy is convenient.

I can see two possibilities:

1) faust and SS being in a scum-team making a bold move;
2) SS not WVing faust;

Bonus possibility: SS WVing faust while his scumbuddy RBed him.

[silverspawn]

to explain the skumpy target, I had it in my head that zone monitoring was target-less and only chose someone in case I accidentally cop-switched them if the lift failed. I was also debating between zone monitoring and refilling but in the end went with monitoring.

[silverspawn]

Convenient.

Why is that convenient?

On N1 you could kill instead of "nothing". Deck Monitoring of Skumpy is convenient.

I can see two possibilities:

1) faust and SS being in a scum-team making a bold move;
2) SS not WVing faust;

Bonus possibility: SS WVing faust while his scumbuddy RBed him.

it's called confirmation bias.

[LaLight]

Convenient.

Why is that convenient?

On N1 you could kill instead of "nothing". Deck Monitoring of Skumpy is convenient.

I can see two possibilities:

1) faust and SS being in a scum-team making a bold move;
2) SS not WVing faust;

Bonus possibility: SS WVing faust while his scumbuddy RBed him.

it's called confirmation bias.

Or it's called "Once in a hundred years LaLight has a correct read".

[silverspawn]

I had no prior model of how good your reads usually are, but they're wrong here.

I don't scumread you though fwiw.

[LaLight]

I had no prior model of how good your reads usually are, but they're wrong here.

I don't scumread you though fwiw.

Because you know I'm town?

[silverspawn]

Also skumpy was in the white zone. If anyone can confirm this, go ahead.

[silverspawn]

I had no prior model of how good your reads usually are, but they're wrong here.

I don't scumread you though fwiw.

Because you know I'm town?

Just like I knew faust was town yesterday?

[LaLight]

Also skumpy was in the white zone. If anyone can confirm this, go ahead.

well, on the first turn he was in a white zone, that's an open information, he started this turn from there

[2.71828.....]

faust is town. I Weak-Visitored him again and this time it actually went through.

Good enough for me. silverspawn and faust can be town for the day

[theorel]

Also skumpy was in the white zone. If anyone can confirm this, go ahead.

well, on the first turn he was in a white zone, that's an open information, he started this turn from there

But this is for the end of the turn...so it's saying he was still in white at the end of phase 2.  Which is useful if only because it means that he definitely didn't use a cop shot.

[EFHW]

I'm pretty sure based on energy that I got the only one.

Meh, downgrade that.  It's possible based on energy that I got the only print-out.

I have two, actually. I got confused and thought only one person could get a print-out each round, so I tried twice. Based on what I see there, I think the people who took actions can just claim. There isn't much need for complications. Once it was known there was a print-out, the likelihood of lying went way down. One of the people might want to wait to be last.

[EFHW]

Also skumpy was in the white zone. If anyone can confirm this, go ahead.

well, on the first turn he was in a white zone, that's an open information, he started this turn from there

But this is for the end of the turn...so it's saying he was still in white at the end of phase 2.  Which is useful if only because it means that he definitely didn't use a cop shot.

I'm pretty sure zone monitoring happens immediately.

"Clarification for Lower Red/Lower Blue C actions: if the target player is ahead of you in turn order, you will know where they moved to this turn; if they are behind you in turn order, you see where they ended the turn before."

[EFHW]

I'm pretty sure based on energy that I got the only one.

Meh, downgrade that.  It's possible based on energy that I got the only print-out.

I have two, actually. I got confused and thought only one person could get a print-out each round, so I tried twice. Based on what I see there, I think the people who took actions can just claim. There isn't much need for complications. Once it was known there was a print-out, the likelihood of lying went way down. One of the people might want to wait to be last.

By this I am referring only to claiming mafia-actions. Just things that would show up on the print-out.

[faust]

faust is town. I Weak-Visitored him again and this time it actually went through.

Good enough for me. silverspawn and faust can be town for the day

What about this makes you think that silver is town?

[faust]

I'm pretty sure based on energy that I got the only one.

Meh, downgrade that.  It's possible based on energy that I got the only print-out.

I have two, actually. I got confused and thought only one person could get a print-out each round, so I tried twice. Based on what I see there, I think the people who took actions can just claim. There isn't much need for complications. Once it was known there was a print-out, the likelihood of lying went way down. One of the people might want to wait to be last.

I see no reason to deviate from the claiming order. There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your status printout.

[silverspawn]

... why are you okay with just using a claiming order from LaLight? Why not make up your own? At least put yourself last.