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[schadd]

Why are you voting eevee? I thought it was just to see if we could get something going. We got something better over here on mcmc, you should join us.

pardon my awaclus, but, because eevee is scum. i am null-kinda-kinda-town on mcmc

[IDontPlayThisGame]

pardon my awaclus

Please don't let this become a thing. One game was frustrating enough.

[schadd]

it's less that i plan to absorb that strategy and more that i think specifically with eevee i don't want to explain

[Witherweaver]

Is eevee dumb enough to defend his partner? Does scum!eevee defend a wagon deep townie?

Eevee doesn't look like scum today.

Experienced players think about people asking these questions now.

[Witherweaver]

I don't really want to lynch McMc.  As much as I like L-1-ing. Alas.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Why are you voting eevee? I thought it was just to see if we could get something going. We got something better over here on mcmc, you should join us.

pardon my awaclus, but, because eevee is scum. i am null-kinda-kinda-town on mcmc

I could see an Eevee vote.

[ashersky]

Mcmc loves being scum, and will always put in more effort when he is scum.  Look at any scum QT with him in it, ever.

Also, nice OMGUS reaction there.

Also, way to be extremely self-aware of your scum play -- so much do that you had plenty of counter examples preloaded in the chamber to fire as soon as someone pointed it out.

This is scum!mcmc simultaneously happy to have rolled scum again while needing to shrug off his recent tells -- and struggling to do so.

Haha mcmc loves being scum...that's  the line I use on robz whenever I want people to start suspecting him for simply playing the game. I actually don't necessarily like playing scum more than town as scum I just get to talk to my teammates so there more interaction.

Yep it's omgus, but it's omgus against a player I already thought was scummy so not quite the same thing.

Being aware of my scum play doesn't make me scummy, it makes me good. And if you want to vote me because your scared I'm scum and will win go ahead but I also caught eevee d1 in the game where I was town recently. Not trying to brag but I'm also a scary town player.

I'm not struggling to shrug off my recent tells, I haven't tunneled and I haven't called people out for being anti town and used that to pivot into a lynch, I've been engaging and inquisitive.

You don't like playing scum better?  You are really going to attempt this?  From your last scum QT:

Also yay scum is more fun than town!

That was your second post in the QT, your first being your powers. 

Lynch. All. Liars.

[ashersky]

Also, the "sorry, not to brag brah but I'm just a super ultra awesome player that's better than you all so you just don't understand brah" thing only comes from scum.  It's not a pro-town argument.

[mcmcsalot]

I really think I found scum!ash. Ashersky is smarter than this for a day one lynch, he is using ancillary evidence to prove I like playing scum more to prove that means I'm scum in this game because I'm active and excited to be playing this game.

Also saying I'm a good town player is not a scummy defense, especially not when the case on me is 100% due to my recent success as scum.

Andrew saying he thinks I'm scum because he thinks the interaction between me and ww seems like two scum faking an interaction is preposterous. It would mean you have found not only one scum this early d1 but two scum...and I'm being criticized because I made a reads list that poe'd a few people I had town reads on...

[ashersky]

So far your defenses have been "nuh-uh" and "I'm too good." 

Like, someone said cows are animals and you said, no they aren't.  Why aren't they animals?  You need the reason behind your statement.  I gave mine.

[mcmcsalot]

So far your defenses have been "nuh-uh" and "I'm too good." 

Like, someone said cows are animals and you said, no they aren't.  Why aren't they animals?  You need the reason behind your statement.  I gave mine.

Ha what an outrageous analogy. Because cows are factually animals. It's like I have a pet cow and you said your cow is really really sick and I said no it isn't. The difference is it's my cow so I probably know if it's sick and you don't...you haven't given reasons why the cow looks sick other than it looks kinda similar to other sick cows you have...and then I explained how it actually looks very different from my other sick cows.

This is a bad case and you know it ash.

[ashersky]

Probably we should be talking about ducks, actually.

Walks like a duck...etc.

Anyway, it's not so much a bad case as it is a good case.

[Witherweaver]

I really think I found scum!ash

I think you're exactly wrong on this.

[Witherweaver]

I don't like Ash or McMc; I've cooled on idptg a little bit. 

[mcmcsalot]

I really think I found scum!ash

I think you're exactly wrong on this.

This is very possible. I don't know why I always assume ash should read me better, I still think he's scummy for how he reacted to people's reaction to his ub claim but I am willing to lynch other people for sure.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I really think I found scum!ash. Ashersky is smarter than this for a day one lynch, he is using ancillary evidence to prove I like playing scum more to prove that means I'm scum in this game because I'm active and excited to be playing this game.

Also saying I'm a good town player is not a scummy defense, especially not when the case on me is 100% due to my recent success as scum.

Andrew saying he thinks I'm scum because he thinks the interaction between me and ww seems like two scum faking an interaction is preposterous. It would mean you have found not only one scum this early d1 but two scum...and I'm being criticized because I made a reads list that poe'd a few people I had town reads on...

I didn't say I found two scum on D1, only that it's looks to me like a strange, not-so-towny interaction and it's worth looking into now and later.

I don't like Ash or McMc; I've cooled on idptg a little bit. 

So are you just null on everyone at this point?

[AndrewisFTTW]

I really think I found scum!ash

I think you're exactly wrong on this.

This is very possible. I don't know why I always assume ash should read me better, I still think he's scummy for how he reacted to people's reaction to his ub claim but I am willing to lynch other people for sure.

I'm not surprised by ash's reaction to the UB thing. It looks pretty null to me.

[mcmcsalot]

I really think I found scum!ash

I think you're exactly wrong on this.

This is very possible. I don't know why I always assume ash should read me better, I still think he's scummy for how he reacted to people's reaction to his ub claim but I am willing to lynch other people for sure.

I'm not surprised by ash's reaction to the UB thing. It looks pretty null to me.

So what do you think was ash's reason for doing it?

[Robz888]

This is town on town if ever there was such a thing.

Unvote

[Robz888]

(Or it's a really well manufactured fake scum v scum fight. Wouldn't that be cool?)

[AndrewisFTTW]

I really think I found scum!ash

I think you're exactly wrong on this.

This is very possible. I don't know why I always assume ash should read me better, I still think he's scummy for how he reacted to people's reaction to his ub claim but I am willing to lynch other people for sure.

I'm not surprised by ash's reaction to the UB thing. It looks pretty null to me.

So what do you think was ash's reason for doing it?

Pfft, I don't know. I've never known the reason ash does anything. To be clear I'm not giving him a pass, just saying I don't see anything out of the ordinary... in ash terms.

This is town on town if ever there was such a thing.

Unvote

Really? What makes you so sure mcmc is town?

[Robz888]

Really? What makes you so sure mcmc is town?

I'm not "so" sure. But I don't know that this is really scum mcmc behavior, and I don't want to immediately punish the person trying the hardest.

To be fair, mcmc has been always scum lately, and I've consistently called it wrong.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Really? What makes you so sure mcmc is town?

I'm not "so" sure. But I don't know that this is really scum mcmc behavior, and I don't want to immediately punish the person trying the hardest.

To be fair, mcmc has been always scum lately, and I've consistently called it wrong.

But he admitted to consciously playing different this game, let me see if I can find the quote.

Well I can't find it right now but I found it pretty odd.

Oh yeah and what do you make of this weirdness:

@dylans comment:

I understand not liking the self aware analysis and can see how it feels rehearsed and that because it is. To emulate my town meta as scum I have to have a good grasp of how I think people view me as town and what I can slightly change about the playstyle to fit my goals for each scum game. So I know how I think people can catch me when I'm scum so when ash says mcmc is acting like scum!mcmc from a recent game I can very quickly and easily explain some differneces.

[pingpongsam]

This is town on town if ever there was such a thing.

Unvote

Maybe. I'm pretty certain ash is town from the interaction, though. I think ash is just baiting and mcmc is taking it. The question is whether or not scum!mcmc loses his cool or if it's just town!mcmc. when I'm town in these cases I work towards making my mislynch as illuminating as possible. That is, I don't rightly try to work out of it. That siad, if mcmc is scum then this practically clears ash which would be bad if ash is also scum.

[Robz888]

This is town on town if ever there was such a thing.

Unvote

Maybe. I'm pretty certain ash is town from the interaction, though. I think ash is just baiting and mcmc is taking it. The question is whether or not scum!mcmc loses his cool or if it's just town!mcmc. when I'm town in these cases I work towards making my mislynch as illuminating as possible. That is, I don't rightly try to work out of it. That siad, if mcmc is scum then this practically clears ash which would be bad if ash is also scum.

So what you're saying is...

(Or it's a really well manufactured fake scum v scum fight. Wouldn't that be cool?)