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Re: Math Games
« Reply #425 on: March 03, 2017, 02:43:41 pm »

Any thoughts on an expected number of rounds/games? It's fun and all, but I'm a person who plays to get to the end; not just to keep going. So after another game or 2, if the plan is still to just continue to keep it going indefinitely, I might bow out.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #426 on: March 03, 2017, 03:27:31 pm »

Hm. I am more for playing indefinitely. I like those games.
Maybe there can be end of games and Math Games 2. I am okay with this also.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #427 on: March 03, 2017, 07:18:15 pm »

Any thoughts on an expected number of rounds/games? It's fun and all, but I'm a person who plays to get to the end; not just to keep going. So after another game or 2, if the plan is still to just continue to keep it going indefinitely, I might bow out.

The plan is to just keep going indefinitely, until I run out of ideas or time (the latter seeming more likely).  The intent of the format is to just be an endless series of mini-games, where by default, playing in one game auto-/ins you to the next game, and you have one common resource (points) that very roughly tells you how you're doing over all of them.  At least that's sort of how I see it, but obviously it's up to the players to make of it what they want.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #428 on: March 03, 2017, 07:56:49 pm »

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Re: Math Games
« Reply #429 on: March 03, 2017, 07:59:25 pm »

(Before I forget)

Group A:
Calamitas
sudgy
Dylan32
ghostofmars
schadd

Group B:
gkrieg13
liopoil
faust
GendoIkari
LaLight
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #430 on: March 03, 2017, 08:01:52 pm »

7. Simultaneous Poker   

Rules   

Players will be split up into two groups.  Each group will play the game among themselves, independently of the other group.   
This game will be played for two rounds (sub-divided into "turns").  The rules in each round are the same.   
Each player will be dealt a random number from 0 to 1, kept secret from all other players.  Each player is forced to put 1 point into the pot.   
During each turn, each player may PM me with one of the following three options:   
   Fold: The player forfeits the round.
   Raise x: The player pays x points to the pot.
   Call: The player pays points to the pot to match the maximum raise on the previous turn.  (That is, the total amount of points you have put into the pot thus far will match the total number of points the highest raiser in the previous round has put into the pot.)
A player cannot raise so that the total amount of points they have put into the pot is less than (or equal to; in this case, you would just call) the total amount of points some other player has put into the pot as of the end of the previous round.  For example, if I have put 7 point into the pot total and you have put 4, on the next round you must raise at least 4 if you are going to raise.   
After I receive PM's from all players or deadline is reached*, I will post the results in the thread, and a new turn will begin.  *Anyone who does not submit a move before deadline will automatically fold.   
Play continues until a turn occurs in which no players raise.  There are 3 cases:   
   1. Only one player has not folded.
   2. All remaining players folded on that turn.
   3. Two or more players called on that turn (but no one raised).
In case 1, the player who did not fold wins the pot.   
In case 2, the players who folded simultaneously reveal their hand.  The player with the highest value wins the pot.   
In case 3, the players remaining (those who have not folded) reveal their hand.  The player with the highest value wins the pot.   
Players cannot raise so that their total bet for the round is greater than 10.   

Example Round   
Alice is dealt 0.736042; Bob is dealt 0.592796; Carolyn is dealt 0.558015; Diana is dealt 0.528742.   
Turn 0: Everyone puts a point into the pot; the pot is now 4 (A1 B1 C1 D1).   
Turn 1: Alice raises 3; Bob calls; Carolyn raises 1; Diana calls; the pot is now 8 (A4 B1 C2 D1).   
Turn 2: Alice raises 1; Bob calls (matching Alice's 3 raise from last round, putting 3 points into the pot); Carolyn calls (also matching the 3 raise, putting 2 more points into the pot); Diana folds; the pot is now 14 (A5 B4 C4 D1).   
Turn 3: Alice calls; Bob calls (matching Alice's 1 raise from last round); Carolyn folds; the pot is now 15 (A5 B5 C4 D1).   
Showdown: Alice has a better hand than Bob, so she wins the pot (15 points).  The net effect is that Alice scored 10 points, Bob lost 5 points, Carolyn lost 4 points, and Diana lost 1 point.   
   
Note: It is impossible for players to tie at showdown.  The numbers you are dealt will have arbitrarily many digits.  If you would like more digits, please PM me with the number of digits you would like me to send you (within reason).  I will default to send 10 digits.   
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #431 on: March 03, 2017, 08:02:12 pm »

PM's are going out now.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #432 on: March 03, 2017, 08:07:37 pm »

PM's are out, please let me know if you did not get one, or you got two, or anything crazy like that.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #433 on: March 03, 2017, 08:17:27 pm »

Please ask if you have questions about the rules.  There should be no reason to fold on the first turn, since calling will not require you to add anything to the pot (you would just be calling the baseline bet of 1, which you were already forced to pay; you can think of it as a check).

I will not reveal players' "hands" (even after the game) (assuming no showdown for that player), unless specifically requested by the player.  (You can show other people your own hand if you want, but you can't show everyone someone else's hand.)
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #434 on: March 03, 2017, 09:27:29 pm »

   1. Only one player has not folded.
   2. All remaining players folded on that turn.
   3. Two or more players called on that turn (but no one raised).

(Someone has pointed out that case 2 here should (in theory) never actually happen, because there will always be at least one player for whom calling is strictly better than folding.  But in case it does happen, the resolution will be to showdown among the folding players.)
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #435 on: March 04, 2017, 07:57:43 pm »

Round 1.1 Results:

Group A      
Calamitas   Call   (1)
sudgy   Call   (1)
Dylan32   Call   (1)
ghostofmars   Call   (1)
schadd   Raise 3   (4)
Pot   8   
      
Group B      
gkrieg13   Raise 3   (4)
liopoil   Call   (1)
faust   Raise 4   (5)
GendoIkari   Raise 2   (3)
LaLight   Raise 7   (8)
Pot   21   
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #436 on: March 04, 2017, 07:58:09 pm »

Deadline for the next turn will be 8pm tomorrow (Sunday).
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #437 on: March 05, 2017, 08:52:15 pm »

Round 1.2 Results:

Group A:
Calamitas   Fold*   (1)
sudgy   Fold   (1)
Dylan32   Fold   (1)
ghostofmars   Fold   (1)
schadd   Call   (4)
Pot   8   

*Calamitas has asked that I flip his hand.  He had 0.2168092925.

schadd wins the pot!  Group A can take a break for now.

Group B:

gkrieg13   Call   (8)
liopoil   Fold   (1)
faust   Call   (8)
GendoIkari   Fold (no submission)   (3)
LaLight   Raise 2   (10)
Pot   30   
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #438 on: March 05, 2017, 08:52:46 pm »

Deadline is 9pm tomorrow (Monday).
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #439 on: March 07, 2017, 07:14:50 pm »

Sorry for the delay.  Round 1 Results (Group B):   
gkrieg13   Call   (10)
liopoil   (out)   (1)
faust   Call   (10)
GendoIkari   (out)   (3)
LaLight   Call   (10)
Pot   34   

Showdown:
gkrieg13   0.8022158101
faust   0.8900745291
LaLight   0.8908475963

LaLight wins the pot!  (Yes, those were completely fairly generated random numbers, they just happened to come out extremely close.  Sorry faust!)
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #440 on: March 07, 2017, 07:21:39 pm »

PM's for round 2 going out now.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #441 on: March 07, 2017, 07:25:50 pm »

PM's have been sent.  Let me know if you didn't get one.

Deadline for the first turn will be 7:30pm tomorrow (Wednesday).
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #442 on: March 08, 2017, 07:31:05 pm »

Round 2.1 Results:

Group A      
Calamitas   Raise 5   (6)
sudgy   Call   (1)
Dylan32   Raise 4   (5)
ghostofmars   Call   (1)
schadd   Raise 4   (5)
Pot   18   
      
Group B      
gkrieg13   Fold   (1)
liopoil   Raise 1   (2)
faust   Call   (1)
GendoIkari   Raise 2   (3)
LaLight   Fold   (1)
Pot   8   
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #443 on: March 08, 2017, 07:31:33 pm »

Next deadline is 7:30pm tomorrow (Thursday).
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #444 on: March 09, 2017, 11:05:22 pm »

Round 2.2 Results:

Group A      
Calamitas   Raise 4   (10)
sudgy   Raise 6   (7)
Dylan32   Call   (6)
ghostofmars   Fold   (1)
schadd   Call   (6)
Pot   30   
      
Group B      
gkrieg13   (out)   (1)
liopoil   Raise 7   (9)
faust   Fold (no submission)   (1)
GendoIkari   Raise 2   (5)
LaLight   (out)   (1)
Pot   17   
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #445 on: March 09, 2017, 11:05:59 pm »

Deadline for the next turn is 11:00pm tomorrow (Friday).
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #446 on: March 10, 2017, 11:53:07 pm »

Round 2.3 Results:

Group A      
Calamitas   Call   (10)
sudgy   Call   (10)
Dylan32   Fold (no submission)   (6)
ghostofmars   (out)   (1)
schadd   Call   (10)
Pot   37   
      
Group B      
gkrieg13   (out)   (1)
liopoil   Call   (9)
faust   (out)   (1)
GendoIkari   Raise 5   (10)
LaLight   (out)   (1)
Pot   22   
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #447 on: March 10, 2017, 11:55:23 pm »

2.4 deadline will be 12:00am midnight Sunday morning (Saturday night).  I'll probably be more lenient with this deadline because daylight saving confuses things.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #448 on: March 10, 2017, 11:56:21 pm »

Sorry, I forgot Group A is done.  I'll post Group A's results in a minute.
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Re: Math Games
« Reply #449 on: March 10, 2017, 11:58:55 pm »

Calamitas: 0.8601418643
sudgy: 0.8533320514
schadd: 0.2087306719

Calamitas wins the pot!
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