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[Dylan32]

Since Scott said some preliminary discussion is ok, I'm just going to tell everyone what I'm doing, because I won't change it based on number of people. I'm bidding the max on +6 gold in round 1. So if you want to bet on it, the only outcome is that you will lose or tie, which will make achieving your goal of maximizing your points harder.

[sudgy]

Since Scott said some preliminary discussion is ok, I'm just going to tell everyone what I'm doing, because I won't change it based on number of people. I'm bidding the max on +6 gold in round 1. So if you want to bet on it, the only outcome is that you will lose or tie, which will make achieving your goal of maximizing your points harder.

...so that you can just use one gold to get the +6 gold because everybody will be off of it?

[Dylan32]

Since Scott said some preliminary discussion is ok, I'm just going to tell everyone what I'm doing, because I won't change it based on number of people. I'm bidding the max on +6 gold in round 1. So if you want to bet on it, the only outcome is that you will lose or tie, which will make achieving your goal of maximizing your points harder.

...so that you can just use one gold to get the +6 gold because everybody will be off of it?

Nope. Already sent the PM. I'm bidding the max right there.

[Calamitas]

I will put everything on the 15 points. Keep in mind that I'm actually going to follow through since I want to set a precedent for further games.

[Calamitas]

Just saw one can actually submit, have done so right now.

[SpaceAnemone]

Can I /tag? :-)

Why don't you /in ?

Time constraints just now, mainly.

[GendoIkari]

I will put everything on the 15 points. Keep in mind that I'm actually going to follow through since I want to set a precedent for further games.

That's my plan as well. I was debating whether to announce it or not though. Well I'm still doing it.

[Calamitas]

In that case we will both get nothing. I have already submitted and I have no reason to lie here. I'm trying to establish a perfect following through record, a few points aren't worth screwing that in the veelry first game.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

In that case we will both get nothing. I have already submitted and I have no reason to lie here. I'm trying to establish a perfect following through record, a few points aren't worth screwing that in the veelry first game.

The best thing about a perfect follow-through record is the instance where you finally break it and stab everyone in the back for some huge benefit.

I mean, um, I'm never going to lie either.  Yeah.

[pacovf]

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

[Calamitas]

In that case we will both get nothing. I have already submitted and I have no reason to lie here. I'm trying to establish a perfect following through record, a few points aren't worth screwing that in the veelry first game.

The best thing about a perfect follow-through record is the instance where you finally break it and stab everyone in the back for some huge benefit.

I mean, um, I'm never going to lie either.  Yeah.

I know, but the record is still very good evidence for me following through up until that point.

[sudgy]

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

The problem is that with too many players that won't work.

[pacovf]

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

The problem is that with too many players that won't work.

That's true of all strategies.

[scott_pilgrim]

Am I right that points will carry to the next game (throughout the entire Math Games), but gold is a thing for this game only?

This is correct.  (Consequently, there is no benefit to winning more gold in the final round.)

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

Is this an /in?

Also, I'd like to make it clear that players can change their submission up until the deadline.  I'm going to say the game officially begins at 12:00pm (noon) forum time (that just means US eastern time right?) tomorrow (Saturday), at which point anyone else who /ins will not be able to participate in the first game.  That also means that the deadline for submitting bids for round 1 is Sunday at 12:00pm forum time.  If it is after 12pm on Saturday and I've already received bids from everyone, I'll end the round early.

I've already received several submissions.  I won't confirm submissions individually unless specifically requested or if you ask a question.  If it gets close to deadline and I still haven't received a submission from you I may prod you.

[scott_pilgrim]

Also, no editing posts.  I'll add it to the rules in the OP.

[faust]

Will it be announced who won which thing at the end of the round? I assume so, but it's not explicitly stated.

After all bids are submitted, they will be revealed in the thread.

Is there any information beforehand on how many rounds will be played? This likely affacts optimal strategy.

This game will be played in three rounds.

My reading skills are extraordinary In my defense, this is not a mafia setup.

[faust]

Well many good options are gone already. I'll go with everything on the 10 points then.

[faust]

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

The problem is that with too many players that won't work.

That's true of all strategies.

No.

[faust]

Game-theory wise, cooperation is better here. Not sure what the expected outcome is here if everyone does random (and too lazy to write a program to test), but I assume it's not very high. Also not breaking people's trust is generally better in a positive sum game.

[schadd]

i'm gonna do 7 on 5 points and 1 on 10. somebody can beat me by doing 8 on 5

[pacovf]

Oh yeah /in I guess.

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

The problem is that with too many players that won't work.

That's true of all strategies.

No.

Explain.

[scott_pilgrim]

The first game officially starts now.  Players who /in will be added to the next game.  Submissions are due by 12pm forum time tomorrow.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Crap, now I need to actually sit down and think about this.

No one told me there would be thinking!

[Calamitas]

I put all my gold on +15 points

[schadd]

we probably want to iron out a Philosophy of Points. would, for example, everyone having 101 points be better than everyone having 99?