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[UmbrageOfSnow]

I want to suggest something for a future game:  Exactly this game, but the unspent money carries over to the next day.

[pacovf]

What do people think of the fact that 2 (or 4) players can deny people their prizes?  It's not leverage that can really be enforced, because it may not carry forward well in the last game, it's just not punishing someone now hoping for a concession later.

I welcome anyone to try to blackmail other players. I don't really think it's going to work, but it would be interesting.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

What do people think of the fact that 2 (or 4) players can deny people their prizes?  It's not leverage that can really be enforced, because it may not carry forward well in the last game, it's just not punishing someone now hoping for a concession later.

I welcome anyone to try to blackmail other players. I don't really think it's going to work, but it would be interesting.

That's the thing, I don't think it can work, and the group could collectively decide to just shut the person out.  I'm trying to figure out if the game is boring or secretly exciting.

[pacovf]

Yep, don't think cooperation is possible, which is probably the point.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Yep, don't think cooperation is possible, which is probably the point.

But a few people will be shut out, so what do they have to gain by cooperating with their own being shut out?

Either the group makes promises, which the group isn't doing, they pick someone at random to punish, they try to blackmail someone, or they try to bring down the system that is establishing itself somehow.

[schadd]

I want to suggest something for a future game:  Exactly this game, but the unspent money carries over to the next day.

save up 24 to bid on +1 point on day 3

[schadd]

and somebody else does the same thing

[pacovf]

Yep, don't think cooperation is possible, which is probably the point.

But a few people will be shut out, so what do they have to gain by cooperating with their own being shut out?

Either the group makes promises, which the group isn't doing, they pick someone at random to punish, they try to blackmail someone, or they try to bring down the system that is establishing itself somehow.

Only Gendo and Calamitas have claimed that they want to bid all their money on the same thing. Everybody else has either claimed without conflict, or is chosing not to claim, which we have to assume means they don't think they will be in conflict, since there is zero point in making a conflicting bid as anything else than retribution or blackmail (which doesn't work if you don't talk about it first).

So yeah, the only people I would expect to see arguing are Calamitas and Gendo, right now. Or else people aren't checking the thread, but then what can we do.

[scott_pilgrim]

I want to suggest something for a future game:  Exactly this game, but the unspent money carries over to the next day.

I'll put it on my list (which isn't a guarantee that I'll run it but there's a decent chance).

[pacovf]

Another option would be to allow people to give gold to other people.

[Dylan32]

This would be a really interesting game to do where it is identical except talking about bids ahead of time is banned. I realize at that point that actually playing it would possibly be less fun, but I think it would be really interesting to see what people do and then analyze it and everyone's thought processes afterwards.

[Dylan32]

And I think the idea someone said earlier about the prize going to the 2nd highest bid in the event of a tie would be really interesting.

[Jimmmmm]

Maybe there should be a "Math Games Discussion Thread".

[faust]

What do people think of the fact that 2 (or 4) players can deny people their prizes?  It's not leverage that can really be enforced, because it may not carry forward well in the last game, it's just not punishing someone now hoping for a concession later.

I welcome anyone to try to blackmail other players. I don't really think it's going to work, but it would be interesting.

That's the thing, I don't think it can work, and the group could collectively decide to just shut the person out.  I'm trying to figure out if the game is boring or secretly exciting.

Mostly on the boring side. However, it gives us a good introduction into how the people here are approaching these kind of games.

[faust]

I will bet 1 gold on 8 random options.

The problem is that with too many players that won't work.

That's true of all strategies.

No.

Explain.

Putting everything on one spot and annoncing this is way more stable with more players. Like, with two players, it's probably better to distribute; with more players, it's better to accumulate.

[2.71828.....]

I will put all my money on 2 gold, 2 points.

I wouldn't do that of I were you. I already did

[liopoil]

/in for next game

[scott_pilgrim]

Round 1 Results

[Calamitas]

Why dud you do that gendo?

[scott_pilgrim]

Round 2 Gold
1. schadd (8)
2. Calamitas (8)
3. UmbrageOfSnow (11)
4. faust (8)
5. 2.71828... (8)
6. Jimmmmm (8)
7. gkrieg13 (8)
8. sudgy (8)
9. Dylan32 (14)
10. LaLight (8)
11. GendoIkari (8)
12. pacovf (8)

[scott_pilgrim]

Round 2 Gold
1. schadd (
2. Calamitas (
3. UmbrageOfSnow (11)
4. faust (
5. 2.71828... (
6. Jimmmmm (
7. gkrieg13 (
8. sudgy (
9. Dylan32 (14)
10. LaLight (
11. GendoIkari (
12. pacovf (

People have cool smiley amount of gold, those are not supposed to be 8's.

[schadd]

thanks guys!
i think i want to do the same thing again

[Calamitas]

I put everything on +3gold for this round.

[scott_pilgrim]

I won't be around at this time tomorrow so deadline will be 6pm tomorrow forum time (I probably won't be able to post results until around 7pm).

[Calamitas]

I only just realized this forum has a dice roll function. We could have just randomized every single prize to ensure maximum utility.