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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #225 on: March 14, 2017, 10:58:25 am »

I think I like the SA lynch most so for now Vote: SA

This could be Jake sidling onto the "quick"-hammer. I'm seriously town!

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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #226 on: March 14, 2017, 11:08:25 am »

That's not unpossible.

Is that three votes?
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #227 on: March 14, 2017, 11:09:11 am »

I think I like the SA lynch most so for now Vote: SA

This could be Jake sidling onto the "quick"-hammer. I'm seriously town!
Or it could be Jake voting for who he thinks is scum
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #228 on: March 14, 2017, 11:10:10 am »

Keep daychat in mind as we go on, as well.  I think scum!Queen might sacrifice a scum! um.. Bishop, I guess, for the town cred.  The game really won't go on long enough for the downside of "why didn't they get NK'd yet?" to be very prominent.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #229 on: March 14, 2017, 11:10:45 am »

That should be scum!King not scum!Queen.

What I'm getting at is Jake could be king and SA could still be scum.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #230 on: March 14, 2017, 11:11:42 am »

Don't forget that at some point there was a wagon on you containing IC and WW. It existed for quite a time.

I haven't forgotten: it's exactly why I'm currently voting WW, since the evidence kind of piled up the longer that wagon lasted.

You're currently in a similar situation with Awaclus, though -- what's your feeling on that?

I am confused by your statement, what's your conclusión if a wagon stays at 2 votes for long enough?
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #231 on: March 14, 2017, 11:13:21 am »

That should be scum!King not scum!Queen.

What I'm getting at is Jake could be king and SA could still be scum.

I like how you keep your lynch options wide open! Any townreads?
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #232 on: March 14, 2017, 11:20:07 am »

That should be scum!King not scum!Queen.

What I'm getting at is Jake could be king and SA could still be scum.

I like how you keep your lynch options wide open! Any townreads?

LaLight.  RR a little bit.  Awaclus is neutral.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #233 on: March 14, 2017, 11:33:54 am »

Vote Count 1.5:

LaLight (2): Awaclus, gkrieg13
SA (3): WW, LaLight, Jake
WW (2): Pacovf, SA

Not Voting (1): RR

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day One ends on March 15 at 12:10 p.m.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #234 on: March 14, 2017, 11:44:49 am »

Not talking about the mass claim is scummy. We're in a bit of a hurry to execute that, after all.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #235 on: March 14, 2017, 11:49:33 am »

Not talking about the mass claim is scummy. We're in a bit of a hurry to execute that, after all.

In.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #236 on: March 14, 2017, 11:52:43 am »

Not talking about the mass claim is scummy. We're in a bit of a hurry to execute that, after all.

So everyone but you and LL are scummy. But you are voting for Lalight.

Seriously though, it's not a setup you can really game. It really all sits on lynching scum today.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #237 on: March 14, 2017, 11:54:24 am »

Not talking about the mass claim is scummy. We're in a bit of a hurry to execute that, after all.

In.

And unvote
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #238 on: March 14, 2017, 11:54:52 am »

Not talking about the mass claim is scummy. We're in a bit of a hurry to execute that, after all.

So everyone but you and LL are scummy. But you are voting for Lalight.

Seriously though, it's not a setup you can really game. It really all sits on lynching scum today.

Why don't you consider No Lynch?
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #239 on: March 14, 2017, 11:57:06 am »

Don't forget that at some point there was a wagon on you containing IC and WW. It existed for quite a time.

I haven't forgotten: it's exactly why I'm currently voting WW, since the evidence kind of piled up the longer that wagon lasted.

You're currently in a similar situation with Awaclus, though -- what's your feeling on that?

I am confused by your statement, what's your conclusión if a wagon stays at 2 votes for long enough?

If a wagon stays at two votes indefinitely, it's strange that scum doesn't QH in order to get a very likely win. So my conclusion is that either the wagon is on scum, or there's at least one scum voting that prevents the L-2, L-1 and hammer votes all coming in from scum. That means when two people are voting for me, either one (or more) of them is scum (which is unlikely in gkrieg's case!) or scum is just messing with us.

I wasn't confident enough to vote WW last night my time, but as time went on with no move for anyone else to vote there, I got more suspicious to the point that I put a vote on him. Now LL is in the exact same situation with Awaclus. Earlier he said he wasn't voting because not everyone is awake yet. Now even gkrieg (our western-most outpost, afaik) is awake, and there's no further move on LL, so I'm interested to see how his reasoning lines up with mine, hence the comment & question to him.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #240 on: March 14, 2017, 11:59:09 am »

Don't forget that at some point there was a wagon on you containing IC and WW. It existed for quite a time.

I haven't forgotten: it's exactly why I'm currently voting WW, since the evidence kind of piled up the longer that wagon lasted.

You're currently in a similar situation with Awaclus, though -- what's your feeling on that?

I am confused by your statement, what's your conclusión if a wagon stays at 2 votes for long enough?

If a wagon stays at two votes indefinitely, it's strange that scum doesn't QH in order to get a very likely win. So my conclusion is that either the wagon is on scum, or there's at least one scum voting that prevents the L-2, L-1 and hammer votes all coming in from scum. That means when two people are voting for me, either one (or more) of them is scum (which is unlikely in gkrieg's case!) or scum is just messing with us.

I wasn't confident enough to vote WW last night my time, but as time went on with no move for anyone else to vote there, I got more suspicious to the point that I put a vote on him. Now LL is in the exact same situation with Awaclus. Earlier he said he wasn't voting because not everyone is awake yet. Now even gkrieg (our western-most outpost, afaik) is awake, and there's no further move on LL, so I'm interested to see how his reasoning lines up with mine, hence the comment & question to him.

Yeah, now this is strange. But i actually stick to the idea that scum doesn't qh for some reason.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #241 on: March 14, 2017, 11:59:47 am »

Vote: Jake
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #242 on: March 14, 2017, 12:00:33 pm »

Or scum is now lining it up on me.

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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #243 on: March 14, 2017, 12:02:00 pm »

Vote Count 1.6:

LaLight (2): Awaclus, gkrieg13
SA (1): Jake
WW (2): Pacovf, SA
Jake (1) WW

Not Voting (2): RR, LaLight

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day One ends on March 15 at 12:10 p.m.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #245 on: March 14, 2017, 12:03:32 pm »

I would be open to a mass claim.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #246 on: March 14, 2017, 12:03:39 pm »

Not talking about the mass claim is scummy. We're in a bit of a hurry to execute that, after all.

I'm considering it. You asserted early on that the optimal play for scum is to claim both PRs and a VT, but I really think we should consider other claiming patters in the outcome analysis. Have you made sure to cover all your bases when thinking through what happens in this case?
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #247 on: March 14, 2017, 12:04:41 pm »

Otoh I got the impression that WW was on all the wagons and neither ended with qh. Ww/Awaclus/X?

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« Reply #248 on: March 14, 2017, 12:07:40 pm »

Otoh I got the impression that WW was on all the wagons and neither ended with qh. Ww/Awaclus/X?

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"All the wagons"?  I voted for Awaclus (not for very long) and Space.
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Re: ZM23: Kubo and Blitz Strings Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #249 on: March 14, 2017, 12:08:52 pm »

Wait, do Mafia not have their JOAT thing this game?
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