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[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: gkrieg

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I say we guard him

why?

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Also, has it ever occurred to you that as scum I'd fake claim Princess and you guys would 'vig' me, but it wouldn't do anything?

Well then we'd just lynch you.

Actually I highly doubt you're scum. Unfortunately since you claimed your card I think it's bad to keep you alive. I told you so.

I also don't really get this.  If RR is not scum, it is always better to lynch scum than town, so we should not lynch RR.

[2.71828.....]

If we are going to kill RR, I think it has to be lynching him.  Using guard is fun and all, but the risks associated with it are just too high in my opinion.

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I mean, if we are going to use guard, we might as well go all-out and if someone has a priest use that first

[gkrieg13]

I mean, if we are going to use guard, we might as well go all-out and if someone has a priest use that first

True. I like the priest plan. No way is scum double baron

[Jimmmmm]

Also, has it ever occurred to you that as scum I'd fake claim Princess and you guys would 'vig' me, but it wouldn't do anything?

Well then we'd just lynch you.

Actually I highly doubt you're scum. Unfortunately since you claimed your card I think it's bad to keep you alive. I told you so.

I also don't really get this.  If RR is not scum, it is always better to lynch scum than town, so we should not lynch RR.

If RR claimed Princess and then someone Guarded him and he was not the Princess.

[Jimmmmm]

I mean, if we are going to use guard, we might as well go all-out and if someone has a priest use that first

No.

[Jimmmmm]

If we are going to kill RR, I think it has to be lynching him.  Using guard is fun and all, but the risks associated with it are just too high in my opinion.

Yes.

[Jimmmmm]

Priests should never use their ability because of this, neither should guards really.

I say we guard him

I like the priest plan.

[2.71828.....]

Priests should never use their ability because of this, neither should guards really.

I say we guard him

I like the priest plan.

I mean, things change after a claim.  Especially a princess claim.  Before RR claimed I think we all kind of decided that it benefited us the most to just go hunting for the scums and not really even worry about the cards.  Now the cat is out of the bag, and things have changed. 

I do think it is best to lynch RR here and not use guard on him though. 

[Jimmmmm]

"Never" doesn't change. gkrieg has gone from being really sensible about the setup to being willing to have the Town give up multiple of our vulnerable cards. It would seem that it's because he thought the idea was gaining traction.

[gkrieg13]

"Never" doesn't change. gkrieg has gone from being really sensible about the setup to being willing to have the Town give up multiple of our vulnerable cards. It would seem that it's because he thought the idea was gaining traction.

Not it's because I think RR is scum and that we can avoid a scum night kill by guarding him. You guys were all saying that I was being overly cautious toward a scum baron and now it seems it is the opposite.

Priest and guard going together makes sure that only one of them dies, and if a priest shows that RR isn't a princess, at least we haven't shown a guard needlessly.

I think that getting a scum without needing to lynch is pretty awesome.

But on the other hand, RR claimed in such a way that it seems like this was planned, so maybe they were either trying to put the real princess or trying to out a guard.

[Robz888]

Wait, what is the Priest plan?

[Jimmmmm]

Why are you so sure that RR is scum?

[Jimmmmm]

Wait, what is the Priest plan?

Bad.

[gkrieg13]

Why are you so sure that RR is scum?

How his wagon was yesterday and his reaction to everything today.

[Robz888]

Okay, I don't think RR or Jimm are scum. And I'm getting a townie vibe from PPS and 2.7.

So my not super thorough opinion is to lynch gkrieg or Eevee. And if we hit scum, then we survive the Guarding of RR.

RR, your claim was awfully bad though.

[Jimmmmm]

Wait, what is the Priest plan?

To have a Priest give themselves up to inspect RR, followed by a Guard giving themselves up to force RR to discard (killing him if he's the Princess).

[Jimmmmm]

Why are you so sure that RR is scum?

How his wagon was yesterday and his reaction to everything today.

Specifically?

[Robz888]

Wait, what is the Priest plan?

To have a Priest give themselves up to inspect RR, followed by a Guard giving themselves up to force RR to discard (killing him if he's the Princess).

Why does anyone need to inspect RR? I really don't think he's lying.

[Roadrunner7671]

I am town. Lynching me is a complete waste. Doing that puts us at LyLo.

However, if we instead mislynch here, we're not 100% dead (like we'd be if we lynched me) because scum might not have a prince or guard.

If we correctly lynch here, we're in good shape.

So yeah.

[Jimmmmm]

Wait, what is the Priest plan?

To have a Priest give themselves up to inspect RR, followed by a Guard giving themselves up to force RR to discard (killing him if he's the Princess).

Why does anyone need to inspect RR? I really don't think he's lying.

I agree.

[gkrieg13]

I am town. Lynching me is a complete waste. Doing that puts us at LyLo.

However, if we instead mislynch here, we're not 100% dead (like we'd be if we lynched me) because scum might not have a prince or guard.

If we correctly lynch here, we're in good shape.

So yeah.

Why would we be dead if we lynched you?

[Jimmmmm]

I am town. Lynching me is a complete waste. Doing that puts us at LyLo.

However, if we instead mislynch here, we're not 100% dead (like we'd be if we lynched me) because scum might not have a prince or guard.

If we correctly lynch here, we're in good shape.

So yeah.

If you're the Princess, the likelihood of scum having at least one Prince or Guard is ~77%. I do agree obviously that lynching scum > mislynching you > mislynching someone else.