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[Witherweaver]

By the way, three scum is not confirmed.  Ash has had the kind of dynamic setup where the number of scum (maybe even number of factions) and number of PRs vary depending on a random outcome.  In such a case, the flavor names need not change; it's possible the other sister simply isn't in the setup.

At any rate, it doesn't change much.  We lynch scum today, and if the games not over then we lynch scum tomorrow.

[Eevee]

Yeah, I don't think it's 100% we are dealing with three scum, but it's also not particularly relevant to our decisions. I'll reread Axxle, RR and WW now -->

[Eevee]

These were the only times RR talked about Archetype:

I've seen no case on Arch but I also haven't seen him defend himself, which is scummy. I'd vote for him in the last few minutes of the deadline, but we have time.

The one thing I don't like about the Arch lynch is that everyone just voted for him without reasons. That feels like it could be a scum driven wagon, but whatevs.

Seems pretty plausible for a partner, before rereading the others I'd be very comfortable lynching him. Nothing in the other content struck to me as towny either, it's basically a lot of jokes and light-hearted posting. Granted, this game has been pretty light of heavy content this far.

[gkrieg13]

What do RR and Axxle and WW think?

Could you please rank your lynch order of the other two?

They're fairly equivalent.. RR over Axxle slightly.  I will go back and reread.

You should go check me yesterday, though.  My treatment of Arch should make it pretty clear I'm not a partner.

hmmmm I thought I had already posted that, but I can't see it.

[Eevee]

vote: archetype

Also willing to vote Faust. Seems like some classic scumbuddy bussing/deflecting.

Will the five non ICs put together a scum to town list?

Scum > town

Faust = Arch >> RR > WW > gkreig > LaLight >>> Espeon

Vote: Arch

I'm thinking the scumteam could also be Faust/WW since WW got cold feet as soon as fausts lynch was actually possible but this is likely too.

Okay, Axxle looks a lot townier to me, of course heavy bussing is possible though. He was pushing for faust somewhat hard, but other than that, I think Axxle looks pretty towny here.

[Eevee]

I Think I do not want to lynch:

RR
LaLight

I think i would be okay lynching:

Gkrieg
Faust

I think there are other people playing the game as well.

Not listing Archetype (or Axxle) offers us some early wifom.

I can do a

Vote: Archetype

Deadline is tomorrow?

My call for scum team is Arch/Faust.

RR's show of concern about everything is making him seem scummier.  Could just be RR, though.

Hmm... maybe a massclaim could be interesting.

I would not participate in a mass claim Day 1. Seems too dangerous if our objective is to protect Eevee.

This I think is scummier from Axxle and townier from WW, in RMM I think scum would be pretty hesitant to propose a massclaim not knowing what bad things could happen to them when they lie, but town with a role that doesn't get too much weaker could think about it.

Will the five non ICs put together a scum to town list?

Scum > town

Faust = Arch >> RR > WW > gkreig > LaLight >>> Espeon

Man.  Don't know what to think about exactly aligning with Axxle:

Faust = Arch >> RR > Axxle > gkreig > LaLight

Interesting. Noteworthy that if there are three scum, they'd probably be a little more bus-happy, especially if they are a weird kind of scum (could be some weird role thing going with the half-sister).

I'm preferring Arch over Faust.

town points.

Also Arch getting 'more confident' of Faust was kind of odd, and the 'slip' thing is... forced.

actually scumhunting against archetype.

At any rate, we shouldn't lynch Faust.

Vote: Archetype

Won't oppose RR.  Still want Faust to come back.

Okay, so I would say from towniest to scummiest of these three it's WW > Axxle > RR, and I'm pretty comfortable with a Vote: RR

[Axxle]

Let's start with the conclusion:

Vote: LaLight

One of the first people to suggest a massclaim

One of the first people to suggest a no lynch.

Posted the coded message right when gkrieg was there to react.

Read faust as scum for a non-tell (the flavor name thing)

Read almost everyone as scum except for gkrieg (minus a small tip of the hat at the very beginning of the game).

Only gives passing scumread of Archetype, lumped him in the same group as me and prefered to lynch me, only going to Archetype when it was clear my lynch wasn't happening.

Claims to know gkrieg is town due to the role but doesn't show a desire to confirm it.

Still pushing on massclaiming today, an awful idea if he genuinely thinks there's two scum left. Roleblock on a healing role loses us the game.

They also claim to get mod confirmation that RR is town, 4 conftown is a broken game.

This is a gkrieg/LaLight gambit.

[LaLight]

Let's start with the conclusion:

Vote: LaLight

One of the first people to suggest a massclaim
Well, thing is that every role here is not as simple as "Doctor". Claiming smartly we could get a good piece of info without giving scum much info.

One of the first people to suggest a no lynch.
Yes, we needed info, if we were wrong in a D1 lynch, there'll be 3-3 now!

Posted the coded message right when gkrieg was there to react.
I didn't see if he was online or something. Yes, I admit it, message was for him only, but he (still) didn't get it and didn't answer me to the question the message contains. Though it's not so relevant now.

Read faust as scum for a non-tell (the flavor name thing)
Well, yes. And Eevee did for example. My role sounds normal, you know, not some strange "Warden" thing. It's hard to read anyone here and faust was a good candidate of being scum back in the d1.

Read almost everyone as scum except for gkrieg (minus a small tip of the hat at the very beginning of the game).
Isn't this a town thing to do? If I were scum, I'd definitely say things like "ey, faust is town for sure" and alike. When I was scum 1st time (m86) that's exactly what I have been doing.

Only gives passing scumread of Archetype, lumped him in the same group as me and prefered to lynch me, only going to Archetype when it was clear my lynch wasn't happening.
No? I was the one telling that you are afk and we need to give you d1 pass! Come on, I really was arguing with faust about you!

Claims to know gkrieg is town due to the role but doesn't show a desire to confirm it.
Why should I?

Still pushing on massclaiming today, an awful idea if he genuinely thinks there's two scum left. Roleblock on a healing role loses us the game.
Right, but see the answer to 1st Q.

They also claim to get mod confirmation that RR is town, 4 conftown is a broken game.
you haven't read it attentively. This was not a mod confirmation, and this is the thing.

This is a gkrieg/LaLight gambit.
That would be cool, but I'm not so good at this game yet.

Oh, and one more, Just look at our exchanges with gkrieg, there are enough breadcrumbs to feed the whole country.

Alright. Comments are bolded.

[LaLight]

Let's start with the conclusion:

Vote: LaLight

One of the first people to suggest a massclaim
Well, thing is that every role here is not as simple as "Doctor". Claiming smartly we could get a good piece of info without giving scum much info.

One of the first people to suggest a no lynch.
Yes, we needed info, if we were wrong in a D1 lynch, there'll be 3-3 now!

Posted the coded message right when gkrieg was there to react.
I didn't see if he was online or something. Yes, I admit it, message was for him only, but he (still) didn't get it and didn't answer me to the question the message contains. Though it's not so relevant now.

Read faust as scum for a non-tell (the flavor name thing)
Well, yes. And Eevee did for example. My role sounds normal, you know, not some strange "Warden" thing. It's hard to read anyone here and faust was a good candidate of being scum back in the d1.

Read almost everyone as scum except for gkrieg (minus a small tip of the hat at the very beginning of the game).
Isn't this a town thing to do? If I were scum, I'd definitely say things like "ey, faust is town for sure" and alike. When I was scum 1st time (m86) that's exactly what I have been doing.

Only gives passing scumread of Archetype, lumped him in the same group as me and prefered to lynch me, only going to Archetype when it was clear my lynch wasn't happening.
No? I was the one telling that you are afk and we need to give you d1 pass! Come on, I really was arguing with faust about you!

Claims to know gkrieg is town due to the role but doesn't show a desire to confirm it.
Why should I?

Still pushing on massclaiming today, an awful idea if he genuinely thinks there's two scum left. Roleblock on a healing role loses us the game.
Right, but see the answer to 1st Q.

They also claim to get mod confirmation that RR is town, 4 conftown is a broken game.
you haven't read it attentively. This was not a mod confirmation, and this is the thing.

This is a gkrieg/LaLight gambit.
That would be cool, but I'm not so good at this game yet.

Oh, and one more, Just look at our exchanges with gkrieg, there are enough breadcrumbs to feed the whole country.

Alright. Comments are bolded.

Something went wrong, fixed.

[Eevee]

LaLight, I think you should definitely be concerned with showing your towniness to us.

Axxle, I think we should lynch RR today, and look closer into LL and others tomorrow. He looks very very very bad based on yesterday - no real content, other than trying to steer us away from a mafia lynch. Kind of surprised people aren't joining in on this - why not?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.1:

Axxle (2): LaLight, gkrieg13
RR (1): Eevee
LaLight (1): Axxle

Not Voting (2): Roadrunner7671, Witherweaver

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 2 ends on December 26 at 3:10 p.m.

[Eevee]

LL and grkieg, why Axxle over RR?

[LaLight]

LL and grkieg, why Axxle over RR?

Well, some points RR made are typical!RR. But actually I'm okay with lynching both.

[gkrieg13]

Also ok with either. Axxle feels scummier, and also the only way scum can possibly win is by breaking up LaLight and me.

But I actually think it might be time for us to claim if eevee is wanting us to.

[LaLight]

Also ok with either. Axxle feels scummier, and also the only way scum can possibly win is by breaking up LaLight and me.

But I actually think it might be time for us to claim if eevee is wanting us to.

+1

[Eevee]

Let's at least hear from RR first.

It makes sense to me to lynch from RR/WW/Axxle today, and to me RR just looked leaps and bounds scummiest of them.

(Sorry about the typo on your name gkrieg - I do know how to spell it these days!)

[LaLight]

Let's at least hear from RR first.

It makes sense to me to lynch from RR/WW/Axxle today, and to me RR just looked leaps and bounds scummiest of them.

(Sorry about the typo on your name gkrieg - I do know how to spell it these days!)

To hear what exactly?

[gkrieg13]

These were the only times RR talked about Archetype:

I've seen no case on Arch but I also haven't seen him defend himself, which is scummy. I'd vote for him in the last few minutes of the deadline, but we have time.

The one thing I don't like about the Arch lynch is that everyone just voted for him without reasons. That feels like it could be a scum driven wagon, but whatevs.

Seems pretty plausible for a partner, before rereading the others I'd be very comfortable lynching him. Nothing in the other content struck to me as towny either, it's basically a lot of jokes and light-hearted posting. Granted, this game has been pretty light of heavy content this far.

This is pretty dang scummy though.

[Eevee]

Let's at least hear from RR first.

It makes sense to me to lynch from RR/WW/Axxle today, and to me RR just looked leaps and bounds scummiest of them.

(Sorry about the typo on your name gkrieg - I do know how to spell it these days!)

To hear what exactly?

A defense. Reads! A claim if others agree he should be our target.

[Roadrunner7671]

 I say we lynch Axxle today then if he's town look wayyyyyyyyy more close at LaLight/gkreig. If he's scum, we lynch WW and win.

As for a defense, I don't have time to really make one, but I haven't been scummy. This is just bad PoE.

However, it's very possible LaLight made up the entire thing about the message.

[Witherweaver]

I'll try to reread later on today.  I'm on vacation now, but I've been wasting a good amount of time on FFXV.

[LaLight]

Okay, I'm ready to vote: RR at this point. It doesn't really matter him or Axxle, but looks like Eevee wants to lynch RR. Let it be

I had a dream tonight that Eevee is in fact scum, that was striking

[LaLight]

if we have 2 scums here, we need all the townie votes to get this lynch through. WW, we're waiting for your reads!

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.2:

Axxle (1): gkrieg13
RR (2): Eevee, LaLight
LaLight (1): Axxle

Not Voting (2): Roadrunner7671, Witherweaver

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 2 ends on December 26 at 3:10 p.m.

[ashersky]

I am getting on an airplane shortly and will be unavailable for a good 15-18 hours.