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[LaLight]

This neverending EFHW wagon also shows she's more likely scum...

I don't see how you get to this conclusion.  It's Robz, who you say is V/LA, Jake who is tunneling me, and you. If you mean that no one has hammered me yet, maybe our town players just have good sense.  Or scum do, since an early hammer would be very suspicious.

Yeah, but this leaves people who at least could intent to have something from you, but they didn't do anything.

I'm leaning scum on Space now. They're more active and provocative when town.

I was also surprised to see this sudden scumread on Space, who has been active and whom you called provocative just a few posts before.

In contrast, your list of questions to town is townier. I don't feel like answering the questions to me, though, since I feel like I have addressed all those things in my posts.

My townread on Calamitas is fading from lack of reinforcement, so more posting from him would be great.
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They was provocative just this time. And I felt like it's something new though Space likes being provocative in Mafia games :-P

So you can just answer here so we could summarize your answers?

Agreed.

[EFHW]

5) EFHW, who is the most scummy? Who is the most suspicious? Who is the towniest? What do you think about Robz' play? My one?

Ok, Jake is the most scummy.  Robz is the most suspicious. Space is towniest.  My read on Robz is complicated by his unavailability and by the history of games in which he has totally fooled me as scum. I am probably unable to trust him.  But he has been pretty self-contained, so that leads me to lean scum on him. His case on me felt fabricated.

Your play was super-towny until recently when you have seemed to be casting about for lynches.  Your switch from Jake back to me was disappointing, of course. Indecision can be a towny trait, though, so unvote.

[SpaceAnemone]

You guys know each other irl??

Yeah, we got to know each other through f.ds PMs, though haven't actually met IRL yet! Hopefully soon!!

(I first joined the forum because I do know Haddock IRL, though, and we see each other once or twice a week...)

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Wait how am i most scummy. Your the one who is scum would be fine with LL lynch but much prefer a EFHW lynch and I have no clue how you guys/girls/they's can't see that but if you people wanna lynch LL i'm fine with that

[LaLight]

Wait how am i most scummy. Your the one who is scum would be fine with LL lynch but much prefer a EFHW lynch and I have no clue how you guys/girls/they's can't see that but if you people wanna lynch LL i'm fine with that

Will you answer my questions?

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

5) EFHW, who is the most scummy? Who is the most suspicious? Who is the towniest? What do you think about Robz' play? My one?

Ok, Jake is the most scummy.  Robz is the most suspicious. Space is towniest.  My read on Robz is complicated by his unavailability and by the history of games in which he has totally fooled me as scum. I am probably unable to trust him.  But he has been pretty self-contained, so that leads me to lean scum on him. His case on me felt fabricated.

Your play was super-towny until recently when you have seemed to be casting about for lynches.  Your switch from Jake back to me was disappointing, of course. Indecision can be a towny trait, though, so unvote.

And also your mega flippy on LL almost as much as he is on you so people can we please kill one of the scum team of EFHW or LL

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I think its just you and EFHW LL so the answer is no I don't think there's any other scum beside's you

[EFHW]

5) EFHW, who is the most scummy? Who is the most suspicious? Who is the towniest? What do you think about Robz' play? My one?

Ok, Jake is the most scummy.  Robz is the most suspicious. Space is towniest.  My read on Robz is complicated by his unavailability and by the history of games in which he has totally fooled me as scum. I am probably unable to trust him.  But he has been pretty self-contained, so that leads me to lean scum on him. His case on me felt fabricated.

Your play was super-towny until recently when you have seemed to be casting about for lynches.  Your switch from Jake back to me was disappointing, of course. Indecision can be a towny trait, though, so unvote.

And also your mega flippy on LL almost as much as he is on you so people can we please kill one of the scum team of EFHW or LL

I think you aren't calibrated yet as to how scum-hunting and voting work.

[2.71828.....]

I will bite

Vote: Jake

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Ok your part of  your case on LL was that he was switching a lot and I was just pointing out that you were as well but somehow I get a vote for just pointing that out why

[gkrieg13]

Vote Count 2.3

Jake (1): e
EFHW (3): Robz, Jake, LaLight {L-1}

Not Voting (3):  Calamitas, SpaceAnemone, EFHW

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 1 ends Sunday Nov 19 at 12 pm

[Calamitas]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

I still think he may be scum but on D-2 EFHW has a better/stronger case against him so I voted him we can lynch SA or LL later but I'm more sure in the EFHW lynch with the info provided on D-2. Also SA has looked much more like town in D-2

[gkrieg13]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

I still think he may be scum but on D-2 EFHW has a better/stronger case against him so I voted him we can lynch SA or LL later but I'm more sure in the EFHW lynch with the info provided on D-2. Also SA has looked much more like town in D-2

Jake, you have been put on the strike system.

You now have 0 strikes. 

Every time you get the preferred pronouns wrong for someone in a post, you get 1 strike. 3 strikes and you're out.

[Calamitas]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

I still think he may be scum but on D-2 EFHW has a better/stronger case against him so I voted him we can lynch SA or LL later but I'm more sure in the EFHW lynch with the info provided on D-2. Also SA has looked much more like town in D-2

You have entered D2 with vastly different scum reads then before the night, SA's D2 behaviour doesn't explain that.

[gkrieg13]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

Calamitas, you have been put on the strike system.

You now have 0 strikes. 

Every time you get the preferred pronouns wrong for someone in a post, you get 1 strike. 3 strikes and you're out.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Ok I'm just gonna call everyone by their name so I don't mess this up any more

[Robz888]

VLA over, sorry all, just caught up.

[Robz888]

Let's do this:

1) SpaceAnemone, have you voted someone D2 even once? If yes, who and why? If no, why?
2) Calamitas, whose interactions seem the most scummy to you? Why?
3) Jake, who do you think may be scum apart from me and EFHW? Why?
4) Robz, what do you think about EFHW play? What about Jake?
5) EFHW, who is the most scummy? Who is the most suspicious? Who is the towniest? What do you think about Robz' play? My one?
6) E, hi! How are you?

4) Weird question for me. I'm voting for EFHW, she is by far my top scum read. Jake I think is obvtown and I'm baffled that anyone would vote for him.

[Robz888]

I will bite

Vote: Jake

Baffled! E, I think this is not good. Don't want to bully the IC, but not good.

[Robz888]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

Eh, that's not weird to me though. Town changes their mind, town moves past their mistakes rapidly.

[Robz888]

I have to admit, though, that I have a bad feeling about LaLight. It's based on almost nothing because LaLight's being very pro-town and moving the game along, and I feel like we would be floundering without them. But I can't help it. The best way to play a good scum game is to play the most pro-towniest town game ever, as the great Galzria used to say (seriously he was so great, read his games). LaLight is definitely fitting that model.

[LaLight]

I have to admit, though, that I have a bad feeling about LaLight. It's based on almost nothing because LaLight's being very pro-town and moving the game along, and I feel like we would be floundering without them. But I can't help it. The best way to play a good scum game is to play the most pro-towniest town game ever, as the great Galzria used to say (seriously he was so great, read his games). LaLight is definitely fitting that model.

I read the games with Galzria, I agree with you, but I'm town here. Also I'm too sleepy, can't argue right now. Just believe me here, please.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I have to admit, though, that I have a bad feeling about LaLight. It's based on almost nothing because LaLight's being very pro-town and moving the game along, and I feel like we would be floundering without them. But I can't help it. The best way to play a good scum game is to play the most pro-towniest town game ever, as the great Galzria used to say (seriously he was so great, read his games). LaLight is definitely fitting that model.

That's what I said too robz if you want my scum reads there a few pages back I can quote them if you want but that's what we've been discussing recently

[Calamitas]

After re-read I'm going for Jake. He tunneled SA throughout D1 and had him as top scum read right at the end of D1. After faust's death (which wasn't extraordinarily taking into account that he claimed tracker) he made a 180° turn and never accused him again. He barely even talked about him today. vote: Jake

Eh, that's not weird to me though. Town changes their mind, town moves past their mistakes rapidly.

I don't buy that he (who didn't change his mind at all during the day) suddenly turns 180° during the night without any additional input.