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[Robz888]

Not great. Sorry to miss deadline, guys. I completely forgot. Was an insanely busy IRL week for me.

I wouldn't have objected to the lynch choice, though.

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Dang it

[SpaceAnemone]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

[Calamitas]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

First, maths is great
Secondly, the algorithm works like this:

1. Pick random modifier
2. If sum>=7: continue with 6
3. Pick random role
4. See 2
5. Repeat 1-5
6. Assign the roles to the different players
7. Assign the modifiers to the different players

Please correct me if I have missunderstood it gkrieg

[SpaceAnemone]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

First, maths is great
Secondly, the algorithm works like this:

1. Pick random modifier
2. If sum>=7: continue with 6
3. Pick random role
4. See 2
5. Repeat 1-5
6. Assign the roles to the different players
7. Assign the modifiers to the different players

Please correct me if I have missunderstood it gkrieg

See, by default, I would have assumed it started with a role, just because that was listed first. And since the algorithm for picking the list isn't given, we can't know that he doesn't randomize between the two lists (i.e. using a coin-toss) each time or something. (And since there are 7 in each list in this particular setup, that's the same as having a single list and rolling a d14 each time). The different selection algorithms should yield slightly different distributions.

[gkrieg13]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

First, maths is great
Secondly, the algorithm works like this:

1. Pick random modifier
2. If sum>=7: continue with 6
3. Pick random role
4. See 2
5. Repeat 1-5
6. Assign the roles to the different players
7. Assign the modifiers to the different players

Please correct me if I have missunderstood it gkrieg

Correct.  Except I switched 1 and 3 this time.  I started with a role instead of starting with a modifier.

I guess one other thing to note is that roles and modifiers are only assigned to town players.

[SpaceAnemone]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

First, maths is great
Secondly, the algorithm works like this:

1. Pick random modifier
2. If sum>=7: continue with 6
3. Pick random role
4. See 2
5. Repeat 1-5
6. Assign the roles to the different players
7. Assign the modifiers to the different players

Please correct me if I have missunderstood it gkrieg

Correct.  Except I switched 1 and 3 this time.  I started with a role instead of starting with a modifier.

I guess one other thing to note is that roles and modifiers are only assigned to town players.

So assuming you have fewer modifiers than town players, you just spread those n modifiers randomly across n/7 players? And same with roles, independently?

[Calamitas]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

First, maths is great
Secondly, the algorithm works like this:

1. Pick random modifier
2. If sum>=7: continue with 6
3. Pick random role
4. See 2
5. Repeat 1-5
6. Assign the roles to the different players
7. Assign the modifiers to the different players

Please correct me if I have missunderstood it gkrieg

Correct.  Except I switched 1 and 3 this time.  I started with a role instead of starting with a modifier.

I guess one other thing to note is that roles and modifiers are only assigned to town players.

So assuming you have fewer modifiers than town players, you just spread those n modifiers randomly across n/7 players? And same with roles, independently?

Exactly

[gkrieg13]

Is there anything we learn, setup wise, now that we know faust was the Tracker? I admit I'm confused by the points system and what it means.

Not so much. We know that with a tracker plus a IC, that's a total of 8 positive points. If there's another town PR on top of those, then we must also have some negative-point elements, otherwise the role generation would have terminated earlier.

It seems more likely than not that the Mafia have a RB rather than a goon for their second role. I could put better numbers on it if enough people are interested, but I'd have to ask gkrieg more questions about the exact generation algorithm, and sometimes people don't like it when I do maths at the setups :-(

First, maths is great
Secondly, the algorithm works like this:

1. Pick random modifier
2. If sum>=7: continue with 6
3. Pick random role
4. See 2
5. Repeat 1-5
6. Assign the roles to the different players
7. Assign the modifiers to the different players

Please correct me if I have missunderstood it gkrieg

Correct.  Except I switched 1 and 3 this time.  I started with a role instead of starting with a modifier.

I guess one other thing to note is that roles and modifiers are only assigned to town players.

So assuming you have fewer modifiers than town players, you just spread those n modifiers randomly across n/7 players? And same with roles, independently?

Players without modifiers will get them before players with modifiers get a second modifier, same with roles.

[EFHW]

vote: Robz for the question about PRs. Why not look for yourself?

[EFHW]

By which I mean it reads as someone who doesn't feel part of town. Also may be fishing a bit.

[Calamitas]

What do you think about a massclaim?

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I think that EFHW or robz is scum because theirs definitely a vetran scum

[EFHW]

What do you think about a massclaim?

not sure there's much point. We don't really want scum to know what powers town still has, if any. Anyone with a useful result could claim if they think it's a good time to do that

[Calamitas]

What do you think about a massclaim?

not sure there's much point. We don't really want scum to know what powers town still has, if any. Anyone with a useful result could claim if they think it's a good time to do that

Scum knows them already.

[LaLight]

What do you think about a massclaim?

not sure there's much point. We don't really want scum to know what powers town still has, if any. Anyone with a useful result could claim if they think it's a good time to do that

Scum knows them already.

How?

[LaLight]

My guess is EFHW/Calamitas or EFHW/Robz with a slight preference to the latter.

[EFHW]

My guess is EFHW/Calamitas or EFHW/Robz with a slight preference to the latter

why me? I'm with you on the partners.

[SpaceAnemone]

What do you think about a massclaim?

not sure there's much point. We don't really want scum to know what powers town still has, if any. Anyone with a useful result could claim if they think it's a good time to do that

Scum knows them already.

How?

It says in read text at the end of the setup-post that scum knows what roles are in the game, but not what modifiers there are.

[Calamitas]

What do you think about a massclaim?

not sure there's much point. We don't really want scum to know what powers town still has, if any. Anyone with a useful result could claim if they think it's a good time to do that

Scum knows them already.

How?

It says in read text at the end of the setup-post that scum knows what roles are in the game, but not what modifiers there are.

No one knows what modifiers there are, they aren't even revealed after flip.

[EFHW]

I forgot about scum knowing the roles. No need to tell them who the roles are attached to, though.

Calamitas, what do you expect to gain from a mass claim?

[Calamitas]

I forgot about scum knowing the roles. No need to tell them who the roles are attached to, though.

Calamitas, what do you expect to gain from a mass claim?

First and foremost it reduces scums flexibility. Secondly, we might gain valuable insights in regard to the setup.
And the disadvantage of informing scum about our pr holders isn't that bad if you consider that we are one misslynch away from LyLo and the fact that we have an IC.

[2.71828.....]

Sorry, guests in town this weekend, not a ton of time.

Not a fan of the RR lynch, but I feel like after my initial kick off lynching RR in a bunch of games I have turned into an RR apologist.

That being said, still need to reread and evaluate the last few pages because I haven't really read the lynch sequence yet. I will get that done and give comments when I can

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I forgot about scum knowing the roles. No need to tell them who the roles are attached to, though.

Calamitas, what do you expect to gain from a mass claim?

First and foremost it reduces scums flexibility. Secondly, we might gain valuable insights in regard to the setup.
And the disadvantage of informing scum about our pr holders isn't that bad if you consider that we are one misslynch away from LyLo and the fact that we have an IC.

I think that we shouldn't mass claim

[Robz888]

vote: Robz for the question about PRs. Why not look for yourself?

Um, I mean, I did, but it's confusing and I don't fully understand how it works, honestly.