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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2016, 06:54:36 pm »
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I kinda wished that Masq skipped players with less than 4 cards in hand, since I find the Militia/Masq combo to be one of the most evil things to do to an opponent in Dominion.

Hve you played the kings court-kings court-goons-masquarade-masquarade combo?
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2016, 06:54:51 pm »
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Q: Will the new cards be available online? If so, when?

A: Yes. At launch.

Will the old cards be available?
I don't know, but there is a greater chance that the Intrigue ones will be available than the Dominion ones, because people bought Intrigue but not Dominion.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2016, 06:56:38 pm »
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So I guess the big question is do you get both full sets out just the update packs. I'm leaning towards the full sets because I'm a nerd.

The real question is, do I go out and buy first edition Intrigue while I still can, or let the chance to own Scout slip forever through my fingers?
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016, 06:57:12 pm »
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We as a community are like family waiting outside for a new child to be born,
I mean parents are pretty handsome, all the previous children were great,
this one is so sudden though

More like an 18 yr old knocking on your door you never knew about..."Daddy!"

How do you even have a door that you don't know about?
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2016, 06:58:22 pm »
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RIP Scout
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He tried his best to be the worst card and succeeded
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2016, 07:00:01 pm »
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I kinda wished that Masq skipped players with less than 4 cards in hand, since I find the Militia/Masq combo to be one of the most evil things to do to an opponent in Dominion.

Hve you played the kings court-kings court-goons-masquarade-masquarade combo?

That hardly ever comes up. Hand reduction and Masquerade is fairly common. I know it's part of the game, but Masquerade in general can be extremely frustrating if you have nothing bad to pass.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2016, 07:00:34 pm »
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I see no information that Scout is dead.  Why is everyone assuming that?
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2016, 07:02:31 pm »
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I see no information that Scout is dead.  Why is everyone assuming that?

- Six cards replaced with new cards

I mean I don't think he got rid of Upgrade or Courtyard.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2016, 07:08:11 pm »
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So, gotta be Adventurer, Chancellor, Spy, Thief, B-crat, Feast from Base, and Scout, Saboteur, ... Coppersmith? Secret Chamber? I really don't know from Intrigue what's gone. Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2016, 07:11:08 pm »
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Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".

I doubt it. I know Donald said that he likes how it is but it would be too crazy if they were all like that. Of course I could be totally wrong. This was when he was debating whether to include the clause on Bridge troll.

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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2016, 07:19:13 pm »
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Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".
It does not.

The four changes I listed are I believe the only functional changes; I would have included Bridge on the list if it had that change, because that's a real (minor) functional difference, like the new "you may" on Moneylender.

The other wording changes are non-functional things, like saying "they" instead of "he."
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2016, 07:24:24 pm »
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Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".
It does not.

The four changes I listed are I believe the only functional changes; I would have included Bridge on the list if it had that change, because that's a real (minor) functional difference, like the new "you may" on Moneylender.

The other wording changes are non-functional things, like saying "they" instead of "he."

What are the new cards going to be?
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2016, 07:26:55 pm »
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Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".
It does not.

The four changes I listed are I believe the only functional changes; I would have included Bridge on the list if it had that change, because that's a real (minor) functional difference, like the new "you may" on Moneylender.

The other wording changes are non-functional things, like saying "they" instead of "he."

What are the new cards going to be?

They're…new cards. Hopefully the rules will go up online soon and you can see them then.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2016, 07:32:33 pm »
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Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".
It does not.

The four changes I listed are I believe the only functional changes; I would have included Bridge on the list if it had that change, because that's a real (minor) functional difference, like the new "you may" on Moneylender.

The other wording changes are non-functional things, like saying "they" instead of "he."

What are the new cards going to be?

Plot twist: they're all scout variants. Roadrunner was on the playtesting team.  :D

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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2016, 08:04:41 pm »
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canonically, will the errata on mine, throne room, and moneylender apply retroactively? will the police come if i tell my friend that she has to play an action if she has one when she plays throne room
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2016, 08:06:17 pm »
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canonically, will the errata on mine, throne room, and moneylender apply retroactively? will the police come if i tell my friend that she has to play an action if she has one when she plays throne room

You'll wish the police had come after what really happens.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2016, 08:18:02 pm »
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Maybe Bridge now has "While this is in play...".
It does not.


Huzzah!  This was the one thing I was worried about.

I will be purchasing the new editions as soon as they are available, and will put up new card scans to the wiki as soon as I can.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2016, 08:58:16 pm »
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I just realized, this is 14 new cards which is basically a small expansion! And so soon after Empires! Think of all the Let's Discuss threads there will be...

(Sorry if I'm spamming this thread)

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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2016, 09:05:00 pm »
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Q: Will the new cards be available online? If so, when?

A: Yes. At launch.

Will the old cards be available?

I know this is meant to be a joke, but I'd like some clarification. The replaced cards are technically in no expansions then, so do they stay in the Dominion canon? (I know I can do whatever I like with my pieces of cardboard, I'm interested about the online implementation)
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2016, 09:13:42 pm »
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This gives me hope that one day Dark Ages will be reprinted with revised versions of Rebuild and Cultist, and that one day Alchemy will be reprinted, without Possession.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2016, 09:20:37 pm »
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Q: Will the new cards be available online? If so, when?

A: Yes. At launch.

Will the old cards be available?

I know this is meant to be a joke, but I'd like some clarification. The replaced cards are technically in no expansions then, so do they stay in the Dominion canon? (I know I can do whatever I like with my pieces of cardboard, I'm interested about the online implementation)

I'll probably add a "Removed cards" section to the Cards navbox on the wiki, and a "Removed cards" section to the articles for Base and Intrigue.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2016, 10:29:12 pm »
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Bold and probably wrong predictions of removed cards:

Dominion: Adventurer, Chancellor, Feast, Thief, Spy, Bureaucrat. Honorable mention: Woodcutter (boring and one of the weakest +buy cards, but fits the theme of simple cards).

Intrigue: Scout, Saboteur, Secret Chamber, Coppersmith, Torturer (far too powerful in the 3-4 player games that casual players typically play, and leads to analysis paralysis), Tribute (encourages players to skip the multi-type cards that Intrigue introduced). Honorable mention: Harem (art and name cause issues).
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2016, 10:40:51 pm »
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Bold and probably wrong predictions of removed cards:

Dominion: Adventurer, Chancellor, Feast, Thief, Spy, Bureaucrat. Honorable mention: Woodcutter (boring and one of the weakest +buy cards, but fits the theme of simple cards).

Actually, the Base Game theme was boring cards. Intrigue's was swingy cards.
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2016, 11:18:25 pm »
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Was consideration given to having Moneylender trash Treasures instead of just Coppers, to match up with Spice Merchant? Or was this too big of a change to make?
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Re: Dominion and Intrigue second editions
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2016, 11:45:16 pm »
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Was consideration given to having Moneylender trash Treasures instead of just Coppers, to match up with Spice Merchant? Or was this too big of a change to make?

I don't believe it was discussed. I thought of it, but knew without asking that it would be too radical of a change.
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