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[ashersky]

The policy was there is no policy -- you can do what you want with your forum settings.

I think separately related was the basically written policy that the VLA thread is lie free -- if you were planning a fake VLA to miss a deadline on purpose, you couldn't post that lie in the VLA thread, as that thread is treated as honest and outside of games.

[Roadrunner7671]

Yeah reactions and rises are a good thing

[J Reggie]

Ok I'm back and I don't like the whole emoticons thing. By that I mean I don't like that people find it scummy. I think the only reason to find it scummy is that people (myself included) usually use emoticons when making a joke, and if that's the case why not just call someone out for making too many jokes?

Btw I'm town.

[pacovf]

What are your reads?

[pingpongsam]

The policy was there is no policy -- you can do what you want with your forum settings.

I think separately related was the basically written policy that the VLA thread is lie free -- if you were planning a fake VLA to miss a deadline on purpose, you couldn't post that lie in the VLA thread, as that thread is treated as honest and outside of games.

Oh, yeah, this.

[Zigaton]

This joke is scummy.  Plus emoticon.

Not superstrong, but I guess no D1 case ever is...

In the mean time, vote: Zigaton. Only posted twice, and both posts raised red flags for me.

Lol.You're wrong,dude.I voted for you to see your reaction.I think it is too early to draw any conclusions.

That still doesn't explain why you have only posted a total of three times.

Because this is my first game (I have not yet come up with what to write, but do not worry, soon I will take an active part in the discussion.
P.S. Excuse my terrible english

[pacovf]

Oh, you are not a native speaker?

...that makes you harder to read. Hrmm.

[McGarnacle]

This joke is scummy.  Plus emoticon.

Not superstrong, but I guess no D1 case ever is...

In the mean time, vote: Zigaton. Only posted twice, and both posts raised red flags for me.

Lol.You're wrong,dude.I voted for you to see your reaction.I think it is too early to draw any conclusions.

That still doesn't explain why you have only posted a total of three times.

Because this is my first game (I have not yet come up with what to write, but do not worry, soon I will take an active part in the discussion.
P.S. Excuse my terrible english

He must be scum! I've never heard of American or English mafia, but I have heard about Russian, Italian, etc. 

P.S. No offense If you are from either of those two countries.

[LaLight]

Oh, you are not a native speaker?

...that makes you harder to read. Hrmm.

Me too, btw

[pacovf]

I mean, I am not native either, but I am not "excuse my terrible English" levels of not-native, which is the part that makes him hard to read.

[LaLight]

So, what do we do next? I'm a little convinced in scumness of McGarnacle, but I don't want yet to vote him. Also Pacovf seems town. Ash is the hardest to read. RR seems helpful and good, maybe too much =)

[McGarnacle]

So, what do we do next? I'm a little convinced in scumness of McGarnacle, but I don't want yet to vote him. Also Pacovf seems town. Ash is the hardest to read. RR seems helpful and good, maybe too much =)

If RR is scum I will loose my faith in humanity.

[pacovf]

Paco omgusing me doesn't really sway me off the idea.

So I wanted to get back to you about my bad feeling.

See, what I normally see about other players, when they get invested in a game as you are, is that half their cases or reads seem to come out of nowhere. Half the time they won't ever explain them. And the other half, even after they explain them, there's a good 40% the reasons will seem weird to me! Best case scenario, they just OMGUS people and bend themselves backwards to find a reason to find them scummy. This is only more true in your case, since your thought process and mine are very different, from what I remember playing with you or reading your games.

But here, you've jumped on the "hard claim town" and "overly helpful" cliche arguments for finding someone scummy (I was aware that opening with a town claim is considered scummy in this forum, I wanted to see who would jump on it). Super safe, super forgettable reasons and votes. I am wary of that.

Furthermore, now you give us this:

Today, I hold the idea we will actually hit scum very loosely and look for the most informative flip which is still pretty loose as well, it's D1 after all.

The "I don't really think we will hit scum, so might as well lynch the most informative flip" is an easy way to get rid of helpful town without being accountable about it. Sure, I dislike lynching lurkers D1 for this very reason, but there's a difference between not wanting to lynch a lurker and what you are saying.

I am also uneasy about your soft-buddying Ash here and here:

Basically I have one town read.  That's...not great.

Interesting, I hate when I have a bunch of town reads all,over the place, especially early on. Also I am suspicious of people who read town on everyone except a couple people, it is an easy scum tactic to softly direct for mislynches.[/quote]

vote: LaLight

Yeah, mr. A little too helpful Vote: LaLight

Actually, I think I am going to put my vote where my words are, vote: PPS.


Note: 5 out of 8 players have expressed an interest in lynching me, so it's kinda hard for me to vote for someone without OMGUSing them...

[pacovf]

I butchered a quote there, hopefully it's still understandable.

[pacovf]

Anybody that has played with Lalight before can tell us if he usually is this huh fluffy?

[McGarnacle]

Who is PPS and paco? I missed that part  .

[McGarnacle]

I like pacovf's reasoning. Those are some good points I hadn't thought of.

[pingpongsam]

Note: 5 out of 8 players have expressed an interest in lynching me, so it's kinda hard for me to vote for someone without OMGUSing them...

fair point, here.

The rest is solid response, I like it. I don't agree with it too much seeing as I know my own alignment to be contrary to your implications but I can't really fault your line of reasoning, either. I'll be the first to admit that I suffer greatly from reading those who implicate me as town as being town themselves. I was trying to avoid this with ash and even considered voting him over it because he knows this about me. I am actually pretty impressed you highlighted buddying behavior of mine when I would have thought I had successfully avoided it.

[McGarnacle]

Who is PPS and paco? I missed that part  .

Never mind, I just figured it out  .

[LaLight]

Anybody that has played with Lalight before can tell us if he usually is this huh fluffy?

Not always fluffy, but I talk too much every time.

[McGarnacle]

Some scum has been tampering with the forums.

[SpaceAnemone]

I am honestly confused.  If there is something posted somewhere that said that McGarnacle is specifically sensitive about the spelling of their username, please point me to it.

At #157, he did specifically correct your corruption of his name, which you can read as at least a minor preference for having it spelt correctly, hence my concern.

He's now said he doesn't mind what people call him, so it looks like you have free rein after all.

[SpaceAnemone]

Also, I'm a big fan of pushing buttons when I find them. If misspelling a name gets a rise I'll keep pushing that button. Reactions are analysis around here.

Urgh. I'm not okay with trollish behaviour, which is what this sounds like :-(

[McGarnacle]

Also, I'm a big fan of pushing buttons when I find them. If misspelling a name gets a rise I'll keep pushing that button. Reactions are analysis around here.

Um, what exactly do you expect to get out of this? Something like: "Listen you townie, if you misspell my username one more times, my mafia buddies will kill you... Uh oh, did I say that out loud?"

[silverspawn]

Deadline will be extended by one day due to forum downtime.