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[iguanaiguana]

That's a good one!

But EoD yesterday I was on the top of Faust's shitlist.

[gkrieg13]

I still think SA is the highest on my lynch list today.  WW's results only cement that in my mind, especially considering we may very well have enough letters for scum to be bulletproof.

[Witherweaver]

That's a good one!

But EoD yesterday I was on the top of Faust's shitlist.

I think Space was, actually.  And possibly me given RR was a mislynch.

[iguanaiguana]

Probably iguana, Space-A, you.

I read this as "Iguana is the scummiest"

and was sad

and still primarily just thinking about that when I made my first post.

[Witherweaver]

Well, he also had a more detailed reads list earlier.

[SpaceAnemone]

If anyone did RB WW, might this be a good point to say, if I'm going to get mislynched?

Annoyingly, even when I flip town, it doesn't even guarantee we have a guaranteed scum in WW, because he could still have been RB'd by scum if he actually is a vig.

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

If WW is a vig, he pretty much has to be a one-shot from the setup letters, so killing him or me is sort of equivalent, given that he's now essentially no better than VT, and could be scum, whereas I'm VT or PR or scum as far as most of you are concerned. Not sure that will sway people like gkrieg, who seems to find me scummy no matter what I say, but maybe it's worth throwing out there for the rest of you.

[Witherweaver]

Well I want  to lynch space more.. the old "if I flip town the guy that claimed against me isn't necessarily scum" thing is pretty classic scum..  See Teproc caught by Robz in Monster's U

[gkrieg13]

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

I mean even the breadcrumb that he claims to have left is extremely vague, and I'm still not entirely sure it is even a breadcrumb. So no I don't think scum was some how tipped off to him being a PR or a vig.

[gkrieg13]

This was my "I have a gun" post:

You're all in trouble now.

For reference.

[iguanaiguana]

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

I mean even the breadcrumb that he claims to have left is extremely vague, and I'm still not entirely sure it is even a breadcrumb. So no I don't think scum was some how tipped off to him being a PR or a vig.

WW's behavior today is super consistent with his play in Marvel Heroes Mafia where he was Daredevil, the motion detector. He opened that game by saying something like "I don't afraid of anything!" and then later referenced that post as a breadcrumb when Faust falsely incriminated him for the night kill.

So yeah, I'm pretty convinced that WW is town because he I've never seen him play scum like this but town yes and not in any obvious way like he's trying to copy it.

[Witherweaver]

If anyone did RB WW, might this be a good point to say, if I'm going to get mislynched?

Annoyingly, even when I flip town, it doesn't even guarantee we have a guaranteed scum in WW, because he could still have been RB'd by scum if he actually is a vig.

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

If WW is a vig, he pretty much has to be a one-shot from the setup letters, so killing him or me is sort of equivalent, given that he's now essentially no better than VT, and could be scum, whereas I'm VT or PR or scum as far as most of you are concerned. Not sure that will sway people like gkrieg, who seems to find me scummy no matter what I say, but maybe it's worth throwing out there for the rest of you.

I also claimed one-shot, though I suppose you could say I might lie about it. 

[Witherweaver]

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

I mean even the breadcrumb that he claims to have left is extremely vague, and I'm still not entirely sure it is even a breadcrumb. So no I don't think scum was some how tipped off to him being a PR or a vig.

No, but also if you're a Roleblocker you're going to choose someone, so there's a 1/5 chance just randomly picking.

[Witherweaver]

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

I mean even the breadcrumb that he claims to have left is extremely vague, and I'm still not entirely sure it is even a breadcrumb. So no I don't think scum was some how tipped off to him being a PR or a vig.

WW's behavior today is super consistent with his play in Marvel Heroes Mafia where he was Daredevil, the motion detector. He opened that game by saying something like "I don't afraid of anything!" and then later referenced that post as a breadcrumb when Faust falsely incriminated him for the night kill.

So yeah, I'm pretty convinced that WW is town because he I've never seen him play scum like this but town yes and not in any obvious way like he's trying to copy it.

"I don't afraid of anything"

[LaLight]

If anyone did RB WW, might this be a good point to say, if I'm going to get mislynched?

Annoyingly, even when I flip town, it doesn't even guarantee we have a guaranteed scum in WW, because he could still have been RB'd by scum if he actually is a vig.

More experienced players: is there anything that would have given away to scums that WW is a vig, assuming he is one and has been playing like it? I feel like that's a question that will be asked when I flip, anyway, so we might as well make a head start.

If WW is a vig, he pretty much has to be a one-shot from the setup letters, so killing him or me is sort of equivalent, given that he's now essentially no better than VT, and could be scum, whereas I'm VT or PR or scum as far as most of you are concerned. Not sure that will sway people like gkrieg, who seems to find me scummy no matter what I say, but maybe it's worth throwing out there for the rest of you.

vote: SpaceAnemone

[Joseph2302]

So, I'm kind of against mass claiming, as gives scum too much info.

And mafia must have a full strongman, thus faust must have been double protected last night.
We have no UB/ faust is the UB.

Claims:
WW: 1-shot vig, who shot Space last night
schadd: 1-shot doc, saved faust last night

[Joseph2302]

But that requires 3 doctors/roleblockers right? 2 to protect faust, and 1 to protect Space?

[Witherweaver]

But that requires 3 doctors/roleblockers right? 2 to protect faust, and 1 to protect Space?

Not if Space is bulletproof scum, or if scum RB'd me

[Witherweaver]

But not scum only has BP if we have all six PRs.  That was my thinking for proposing mass claim in the first place, to determine if we were in such a scenario.

As it is, I believe we must have at least five.

[Witherweaver]

But not scum only has BP if we have all six PRs.  That was my thinking for proposing mass claim in the first place, to determine if we were in such a scenario.

As it is, I believe we must have at least five.

not == note

[Joseph2302]

But that requires 3 doctors/roleblockers right? 2 to protect faust, and 1 to protect Space?

Not if Space is bulletproof scum, or if scum RB'd me

Fair enough.

[Witherweaver]

The possible issue with our reasoning is a oddball scenario where scum decides to not shoot Faust and have one/two of them claim doctor/blocker.   I have trouble imagining that, and not really sure it can be done "safely", but maybe it's worth keeping in mind at some point.

Well.. I guess they could have done that to make town blow any doctor 1-shots also, but that only makes sense if they were a 1-shot Strongman, which could only happen if there are no PRs beyond me, Faust, RR. 

[Joseph2302]

One question: Do we think the claims are true?

I'm leaning towards yes, although Schadd's would be an easy scum fakeclaim.

[Witherweaver]

I'm more inclined to believe Schadd than not believe him.

[Joseph2302]

Faust: claim obviously true
WW: claim probably true
Schadd: someone is a doctor, but claim may well be true. I think okay for now, as a 1-shot doctor who had used their shot would probably counterclaim him

[gkrieg13]

Faust: claim obviously true
WW: claim probably true
Schadd: someone is a doctor, but claim may well be true. I think okay for now, as a 1-shot doctor who had used their shot would probably counterclaim him

I'm not sure I understand the schadd thing