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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1000 on: September 29, 2016, 10:26:51 am »

Ok well I guess we're claiming.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1001 on: September 29, 2016, 10:27:26 am »

And Mafia should have Strongman as we have at least:

C/E, M, V, D/E
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1002 on: September 29, 2016, 10:27:41 am »

Ok well I guess we're claiming.

I am, other people may not have to.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1003 on: September 29, 2016, 10:27:53 am »

so, we have at least E/C;D/R;M;V;TT as i look correctly

PPE: 3

FTFM if Witherweaver doesn't lie

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1004 on: September 29, 2016, 10:28:34 am »

But wait.. mafia should have killed with Strongman if they have it.

So how did Faust not die?  We must have RB or double-protection.
They might have 1-shot strongman, and decided not to use it.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1005 on: September 29, 2016, 10:29:23 am »

But wait.. mafia should have killed with Strongman if they have it.

So how did Faust not die?  We must have RB or double-protection.
They might have 1-shot strongman, and decided not to use it.

No, we have four PRs, assuming at least one Doctor protected Faust.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1006 on: September 29, 2016, 10:30:55 am »

And with that logic, if we have four we have to have five, as double-protection is the only thing that could keep Faust alive (either Doctor or RB).

Maybe if town RB targeted someone last night, claiming could be good. 
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #1007 on: September 29, 2016, 10:36:37 am »

This was my "I have a gun" post:

You're all in trouble now.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1008 on: September 29, 2016, 10:38:22 am »

vote: SA

I'm not a RB
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1009 on: September 29, 2016, 10:39:33 am »

Hmm, ww's pay certainly doesn't clear him. I like vote: Witherweaver

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1010 on: September 29, 2016, 10:40:06 am »

Hmm, ww's pay certainly doesn't clear him. I like vote: Witherweaver

What?  How could that possibly make sense.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1011 on: September 29, 2016, 10:40:29 am »

Pay should be post or claim or something

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1012 on: September 29, 2016, 10:41:03 am »

Hmm, ww's pay certainly doesn't clear him. I like vote: Witherweaver

What?  How could that possibly make sense.

Because I thought you were scum and this looks like a fake claim.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1013 on: September 29, 2016, 10:41:51 am »

From this I take it to mean that you've never seen a fake claim before.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1014 on: September 29, 2016, 10:42:19 am »

Like maybe you know a town RB targeted you and you want to claim vig now so they don't out you as scum.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1015 on: September 29, 2016, 10:42:29 am »

From this I take it to mean that you've never seen a fake claim before.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1016 on: September 29, 2016, 10:43:37 am »

Like maybe you know a town RB targeted you and you want to claim vig now so they don't out you as scum.

How would I know that?
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1017 on: September 29, 2016, 10:43:52 am »

Ok if everyone else believes WW I'll unvote. I just hate it when my top scum read claims a PR that can't be verified.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1018 on: September 29, 2016, 10:44:27 am »

Well I was coming into today assuming I would be verified.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1019 on: September 29, 2016, 10:45:12 am »

Like maybe you know a town RB targeted you and you want to claim vig now so they don't out you as scum.

How would I know that?

Good point, there's no rolecop in this setup I guess. My theory is a little too far fetched.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1020 on: September 29, 2016, 10:50:56 am »

well.

scum!WW could make his first post thinking that when his kill will miss he will claim vig (with the opening post) and say his target is bulletproof to mislynch his target. I do think this is possible if he knew there would be bulletproof scum = many PRs (and he knew because he's scum). Is this the possible plan? Knowing WW it can be. Also, can we believe he really targeted SA? I think scum would kill faust. So all of this just doesn't make sense from my perspective. I believe WW here.

So, IMO either SA or WW is scum. There is a possibility that they both are town or scum, but 1/1 is more possible.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1021 on: September 29, 2016, 10:54:37 am »

well.

scum!WW could make his first post thinking that when his kill will miss he will claim vig (with the opening post) and say his target is bulletproof to mislynch his target. I do think this is possible if he knew there would be bulletproof scum = many PRs (and he knew because he's scum). Is this the possible plan? Knowing WW it can be. Also, can we believe he really targeted SA? I think scum would kill faust. So all of this just doesn't make sense from my perspective. I believe WW here.

So, IMO either SA or WW is scum. There is a possibility that they both are town or scum, but 1/1 is more possible.

I reread myself. Well. Why couldn't scum!ww just try to kill faust and then when nothing happened say that he was targeting SA so we could mislynch them?
Answer is maybe that if SA is townie so WW is the first to suspect so I think he wouldn't do it.
I'm confused a little.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1022 on: September 29, 2016, 10:55:23 am »

well.

scum!WW could make his first post thinking that when his kill will miss he will claim vig (with the opening post) and say his target is bulletproof to mislynch his target. I do think this is possible if he knew there would be bulletproof scum = many PRs (and he knew because he's scum). Is this the possible plan? Knowing WW it can be. Also, can we believe he really targeted SA? I think scum would kill faust. So all of this just doesn't make sense from my perspective. I believe WW here.

So, IMO either SA or WW is scum. There is a possibility that they both are town or scum, but 1/1 is more possible.

I reread myself. Well. Why couldn't scum!ww just try to kill faust and then when nothing happened say that he was targeting SA so we could mislynch THEM?
Answer is maybe that if SA is townie so WW is the first to suspect so I think he wouldn't do it.
I'm confused a little.

Fixed and I ask mod to fix it in previous post.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1023 on: September 29, 2016, 10:57:33 am »

I targeted Space primarily because of Faust's last posts yesterday.

(This is also the reason I prompted Faust to give his reads before end of day.)  RR flipping town means I definitely had to shoot last night, because it would remove me from the lynch pool today.  Also hitting scum was 50/50, not terrible odds.  Shooting town means today would be LyLo, but I'd be verified and we'd have a decent chance.   I'm not certain if I would have shot if RR was scum.. it would depend on reads probably, though it may have been better to save it until tonight.

Faust listed me, Space, Iguana as his primary scum in case RR was town, and Space seemed more likely than Iguana.  I preferred to shoot on his reads, since the chance of Faust having no scum on his scum reads is pretty small.  I also didn't have any really strong read myself to choose someone different.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 3.
« Reply #1024 on: September 29, 2016, 10:59:19 am »

well.

scum!WW could make his first post thinking that when his kill will miss he will claim vig (with the opening post) and say his target is bulletproof to mislynch his target. I do think this is possible if he knew there would be bulletproof scum = many PRs (and he knew because he's scum). Is this the possible plan? Knowing WW it can be. Also, can we believe he really targeted SA? I think scum would kill faust. So all of this just doesn't make sense from my perspective. I believe WW here.

So, IMO either SA or WW is scum. There is a possibility that they both are town or scum, but 1/1 is more possible.

Space doesn't have to be scum, it's just one explanation.  Scum or Town could have blocked me.  Though Town is now less likely since Faust living required double protection.  Scum could have blocked me if they sensed a PR, I guess.
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