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[faust]

Out of the sheep, RR is easily the worst.

[LaLight]

also, I believe faust here. I /pledged. but i really want to listen to WW.

The pledge is only for the last 12 hours of the day. Before that, you're not supposed to turn your brain on standby.

I am not turning it. I want to listen to WW at first and think. Now I don't see him as scum nor town. He's just.. WitherWeaver. And I won't hammer him or clear him until I listen to something that will somehow indicate his alignment in my eyes.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.4:

Joseph2302 (3): LaLight, iguanaiguana, gkrieg13
Witherweaver (4): SpaceAnemone, Joseph2302, schadd, Roadrunner7671
SpaceAnemone (1): J Reggie
Gkrieg13 (1): Witherweaver

Not Voting (1): faust

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 ends on September 28 at 4:00 a.m. forum time.

[Joseph2302]

well. As I've told earlier couple of times WW is practically impossibe for me to read. He seems townie, but as I know his level, he can easily flip scum after all. Intent to hammer

He's only on L-2, according to the vote count

[LaLight]

well. As I've told earlier couple of times WW is practically impossibe for me to read. He seems townie, but as I know his level, he can easily flip scum after all. Intent to hammer

He's only on L-2, according to the vote count

faust unvoted

[Joseph2302]

And that wagon came quickly.

Doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad one.

PPE:1

[Joseph2302]

well. As I've told earlier couple of times WW is practically impossibe for me to read. He seems townie, but as I know his level, he can easily flip scum after all. Intent to hammer

He's only on L-2, according to the vote count

[Witherweaver]

...

My reasons for not liking J Reggie on Day 1 related to the other, still ongoing game.  I still shouldn't say much about it, since that game is still ongoing.

The only thing that really abated them somewhat was his reaction to almost getting lynched.

[LaLight]

...

My reasons for not liking J Reggie on Day 1 related to the other, still ongoing game.  I still shouldn't say much about it, since that game is still ongoing.

The only thing that really abated them somewhat was his reaction to almost getting lynched.

I don't like him being pretty silent D2 compared to D1 also.

[Witherweaver]

This is just an interesting vote.  It feels like scum trying to see if anyone is willing to start a wagon on a mislynch.

Are you implying that you think Iguana is town?

More things I don't understand.  Is he saying that he isn't even reasonably sure that WW or gkrieg is scum?

You or I scum is equivalent to You scum, of which I am not sure.

[gkrieg13]

This is just an interesting vote.  It feels like scum trying to see if anyone is willing to start a wagon on a mislynch.

Are you implying that you think Iguana is town?

More things I don't understand.  Is he saying that he isn't even reasonably sure that WW or gkrieg is scum?

You or I scum is equivalent to You scum, of which I am not sure.

I think he is on the townier side. And I also want to lynch out of the mislynch people.

[Witherweaver]

I voted Gkrieg after rereading, for similar reasons that I voted Iguana.  The Day 1 posts of both have a little bit of forced nonchalantness, something in particular scum tries to emulates.

Gkrieg is present Day 1 without ever doing a whole lot.  A decent amount of criticizing/pseudodefending cases and not really making his own.  Also the thing on Mail-Mi (which was his first active thing on D1)... putting at L-1, saying it wasn't the expected reaction.  It's not like that can't be townie, but it felt a little forced, as if he was planning to not find Mail-Mi lynchworthy. (A hammer would have looked bad, but doing something regarding the wagon that does not result in a mislynch looks good.)  Rest of day is similar; he comes back at the end to go for Mail-Mi, though prefers Faust.

Iguana has an overly 'I'm playing this game really cool and loose, guys' attitude.  Lots of gratuitous punctuation.  Pretty involved with the game, is pretty confident with his case on J Reggie.. reminds me of classical high-content scum, like how I played in my earlier scum games (maybe X-Men).  I'm not so sure Iguana would play that way scum, though.

In both cases, I was curious to see if anything would result from voting, though they were both pretty much ignored.  Saying more stuff may have been better, there.

[Joseph2302]

Interesting.

So to sum up:
I think WW or gkrieg is scum
WW is voting gkrieg
Gkrieg thinks WW is town

Makes me think I was right, WW is scum

[Witherweaver]

This is just an interesting vote.  It feels like scum trying to see if anyone is willing to start a wagon on a mislynch.

Are you implying that you think Iguana is town?

More things I don't understand.  Is he saying that he isn't even reasonably sure that WW or gkrieg is scum?

You or I scum is equivalent to You scum, of which I am not sure.

I think he is on the townier side. And I also want to lynch out of the mislynch people.

On the surface that makes sense, but:

J Reggie (3):  iguanaiguana, schadd, LaLight
mail-mi (7): J Reggie, SpaceAnemone, gkrieg13, Joseph2302, faust, witherweaver, silverspawn
RoadRunner7671 (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (1): RR

On-Wagon: J Reggie, Space, Gkrieg, Joseph, Witherweaver
Off-Wagon: Iguana, Schadd, LaLight, RR

Didn't list Faust as he's an IC, Silver and Mail-Mi dead.  So even for someone in the on-wagon list, there's as many possible scum off wagon as on wagon.  Actually people on the off-wagon list have a better chance (ignoring reads) than those on-wagon, removing themselves from the pool.

Oh, yeah, I also found this on-wagon thing a little questionable, in particular how people suddenly started reducing the lynch pool.

[Witherweaver]

Interesting.

So to sum up:
I think WW or gkrieg is scum
WW is voting gkrieg
Gkrieg thinks WW is town

Makes me think I was right, WW is scum

Are the lines before the blank line related to the one after through anything other than the implied transitional phrase?

[gkrieg13]

This is just an interesting vote.  It feels like scum trying to see if anyone is willing to start a wagon on a mislynch.

Are you implying that you think Iguana is town?

More things I don't understand.  Is he saying that he isn't even reasonably sure that WW or gkrieg is scum?

You or I scum is equivalent to You scum, of which I am not sure.

I think he is on the townier side. And I also want to lynch out of the mislynch people.

On the surface that makes sense, but:

J Reggie (3):  iguanaiguana, schadd, LaLight
mail-mi (7): J Reggie, SpaceAnemone, gkrieg13, Joseph2302, faust, witherweaver, silverspawn
RoadRunner7671 (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (1): RR

On-Wagon: J Reggie, Space, Gkrieg, Joseph, Witherweaver
Off-Wagon: Iguana, Schadd, LaLight, RR

Didn't list Faust as he's an IC, Silver and Mail-Mi dead.  So even for someone in the on-wagon list, there's as many possible scum off wagon as on wagon.  Actually people on the off-wagon list have a better chance (ignoring reads) than those on-wagon, removing themselves from the pool.

Oh, yeah, I also found this on-wagon thing a little questionable, in particular how people suddenly started reducing the lynch pool.

I think that is a natural thing to do though. I feel like it is more likely that there were two on and one off in this situation. I'll look back at why, but that was my general feeling when I looked at how the wagon formed.

[J Reggie]

...

My reasons for not liking J Reggie on Day 1 related to the other, still ongoing game.  I still shouldn't say much about it, since that game is still ongoing.

The only thing that really abated them somewhat was his reaction to almost getting lynched.

My reasons for being different from said ongoing game have to do with that game, so obviously this is a case you can't make and I can't defend myself. So maybe let's use stuff that has to do with this game. In which case you should find no reasons to vote for me.

I don't like him being pretty silent D2 compared to D1 also.

I'm aware of that. I've been pretty busy, but I'll try to get back into this game.

[Witherweaver]

...

My reasons for not liking J Reggie on Day 1 related to the other, still ongoing game.  I still shouldn't say much about it, since that game is still ongoing.

The only thing that really abated them somewhat was his reaction to almost getting lynched.

My reasons for being different from said ongoing game have to do with that game, so obviously this is a case you can't make and I can't defend myself. So maybe let's use stuff that has to do with this game. In which case you should find no reasons to vote for me.

What?  That's dumb.  I obviously can't elaborate, and I did not, and I didn't say anything about it Day 1 specifically because of the other game.  Being able to make a case or not doesn't have anything to do with where I can vote.

[Witherweaver]

I also never said you were different.

[Witherweaver]

Unvote

Don't really like Gkrieg any more.

[iguanaiguana]

Lalight is coming off scummy here.

[LaLight]

Lalight is coming off scummy here.

so many translations of "come off" into my language. Can you please tell me what do you mean, I don't understand =(

[J Reggie]

Sorry WW. It's just happened before where I've been mislynched at least partially because of ongoing game stuff and I couldn't really defend myself. I just wanted to avoid that happening again.

[faust]

Lalight is coming off scummy here.

Why?

[Roadrunner7671]

Lalight is coming off scummy here.

so many translations of "come off" into my language. Can you please tell me what do you mean, I don't understand =(

Because of this conversation, it looks like you are more likely to be scum