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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #575 on: September 16, 2016, 09:33:51 am »

yknow what, back to vote: J Reggie

I reread RR and he's lurky and hedgy but neither of that is a scum tell for him. It's just a null-lynch which is fine if other choices are all towny, but now J Reggie is actually scummy.

What? What about me is "actually scummy"?

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #576 on: September 16, 2016, 09:40:35 am »

yknow what, back to vote: J Reggie

I reread RR and he's lurky and hedgy but neither of that is a scum tell for him. It's just a null-lynch which is fine if other choices are all towny, but now J Reggie is actually scummy.

What? What about me is "actually scummy"?

This:

The RR wagon makes a little more sense because it has a reason, but I still feel like it's probably just trying to get an easy mislynch through.  If someone can make a better case than just "he's been absent", I'll consider it.

"Look how towny I am for not supporting an alternate lynch! But I will support it if you give me a reason so that I will look better!"

I was doing wagon on RR just so he would tell anything, cause I don't have much info on him. It's not "trying to lynch because he's 100% scum" wagon, it's "he's absent, so let's look isn't it the scumminess-absence" wagon. No real point to "get an easy mislynch". If I'm getting this correctly, Silver had the same point.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #577 on: September 16, 2016, 09:53:31 am »

Vote Count 1.11:

J Reggie (5): Witherweaver, iguanaiguana, schadd, silverspawn, LaLight
mail-mi (4): J Reggie, faust, SpaceAnemone, gkrieg13
faust (1): Joseph2302
RoadRunner7671 (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (0): RR

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #578 on: September 16, 2016, 09:53:59 am »

Then, there's the whole "faust is fluffy" thing.  It's early to say this, but this really feel like he's bussing a partner.  I think faust has been pretty scummy this game, but it has nothing to do with "fluff".
So what does it have to do with?
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #579 on: September 16, 2016, 09:55:12 am »

I don't really feel strongly about mail-mi vs J Reggie, but the Reggie wagon looks a lot townier.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #580 on: September 16, 2016, 09:55:43 am »

So Vote: J Reggie L-1.

While you're still here.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #581 on: September 16, 2016, 09:58:47 am »

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #582 on: September 16, 2016, 10:02:31 am »

Please don't hammer me. I'm just a VT but I think I finally have good reads and I don't want it to all go to waste. I don't know, what else do you want me to say in my defence?

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #583 on: September 16, 2016, 10:03:43 am »

I'll get a reads list together if that would help. I guess I could still do that in twilight but ash might close the thread.

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #584 on: September 16, 2016, 10:04:09 am »

Please don't hammer me. I'm just a VT but I think I finally have good reads and I don't want it to all go to waste. I don't know, what else do you want me to say in my defence?

Could you summarize those reads here?
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #585 on: September 16, 2016, 10:14:56 am »

Ok, just going through the player list:

Witherweaver - not so sure here, I have trouble reading WW in general.  Seemed scummy early on but I think that's probably just a lens I'm seeing him through.
LaLight - I've been giving him a D1 pass, but I'm still suspicious about his SK hunting and the way he handled putting mail-mi at L-1. 
silverspawn - seems his usual towny self.  I'm actually strangely confident about this one
4. gkrieg13 - is very towny, but I don't think I've played a game where he's scum.  In fact, I think the only game I read where he was scum was Fanfic Mafia and he was towny there.  So uh, let's look at him tomorrow?
5. faust - trying to start easy wagons, misconstruing people's posts to make them sound scummy.  I didn't like his interaction with gkrieg about the "tell me my scum meta" thing
6. Roadrunner7671 - hard to read, since he's in high school and that takes up a lot of time.  Achoo.  I just sneezed. 
7. Joseph2302 - is joseph!joseph.  Probably town.  by the way, did he claim scum yet this game?
8. SpaceAnemone - has been pretty absent, with a lot of jokey posts early on.  I'm suspicious but not enough to start a wagon today.  If they continue like this we should lynch them fo sho. 
9. J Reggie - towny, despite what everyone says.  This is the only one I'm 100% sure on.  Would not lynch.
10. schadd - confusing.  could actually be scum but I'm giving him a D1 pass
11. iguanaiguana - seems like town!ii.  Would not lynch
12. mail-mi - scummy.  would lynch

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #586 on: September 16, 2016, 10:15:53 am »

Oops I left some of the numbers in there.  Well, now you know I quoted mod-provided info, maybe I'll get mod-killed. 

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #587 on: September 16, 2016, 10:16:52 am »

That was informative for me as well as for you.  I probably need to do that more often as well. 

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #588 on: September 16, 2016, 10:19:03 am »

yknow what, back to vote: J Reggie

I reread RR and he's lurky and hedgy but neither of that is a scum tell for him. It's just a null-lynch which is fine if other choices are all towny, but now J Reggie is actually scummy.

What? What about me is "actually scummy"?

This:

The RR wagon makes a little more sense because it has a reason, but I still feel like it's probably just trying to get an easy mislynch through.  If someone can make a better case than just "he's been absent", I'll consider it.

"Look how towny I am for not supporting an alternate lynch! But I will support it if you give me a reason so that I will look better!"

I was doing wagon on RR just so he would tell anything, cause I don't have much info on him. It's not "trying to lynch because he's 100% scum" wagon, it's "he's absent, so let's look isn't it the scumminess-absence" wagon. No real point to "get an easy mislynch". If I'm getting this correctly, Silver had the same point.

Is this a big part of why people want to lynch me?  Because I resisted two of the easiest mislynches and people think I'm doing it for towncred?  I've read too many games where these guys were mislynched and I want to prevent that from happening. 

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #589 on: September 16, 2016, 10:20:34 am »

12. mail-mi - scummy.  would lynch

Why is Mail-Mi scummy?
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #590 on: September 16, 2016, 10:21:02 am »

Or more to the point, why was he the only one in your list without some explanation?
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #591 on: September 16, 2016, 10:23:13 am »

12. mail-mi - scummy.  would lynch

Why is Mail-Mi scummy?

Or more to the point, why was he the only one in your list without some explanation?

Is this not enough reason?

(big post about why I think mail-mi is scum)

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #592 on: September 16, 2016, 10:32:45 am »

Okay, I had been skimming the last couple of pages.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #593 on: September 16, 2016, 10:35:31 am »

I kind of don't think scum!Mail-Mi claims VT here.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #594 on: September 16, 2016, 10:35:59 am »

I kind of don't think scum!Mail-Mi claims VT here.

why's that

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #595 on: September 16, 2016, 10:36:47 am »

I kind of don't think scum!Mail-Mi claims VT here.

Does that mean you don't think I'm scum either?

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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #596 on: September 16, 2016, 10:43:47 am »

Vote: mail-mi
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #597 on: September 16, 2016, 10:44:25 am »

Faust isn't happening, and I really think JReggie is town.
More so than mail-mi
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #598 on: September 16, 2016, 10:45:46 am »

I kind of don't think scum!Mail-Mi claims VT here.

Does that mean you don't think I'm scum either?

No, I think Mail-Mi in particular is someone that's more likely to claim a PR, like Robz, Ash, others.  Though it's possible I'm misappropriating here, I don't remember his scum games.  But he's a mod/setup/theory type, so he'd think more on setup implications.  Well, I suppose with this setup there are other things to consider.
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Re: M86: Ghibli Mafia - Day 1.
« Reply #599 on: September 16, 2016, 10:51:04 am »

Vote Count 1.12:

J Reggie (6): Witherweaver, iguanaiguana, schadd, silverspawn, LaLight, faust
mail-mi (4): J Reggie, SpaceAnemone, gkrieg13, Joseph2302
RoadRunner7671 (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (1): RR

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on September 17 at 2:20 a.m. forum time.
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