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[J Reggie]

Also, please make any cases on me by tomorrow afternoon. I don't think I'll be able to be online after that.

[J Reggie]

Normally faust is different to this.
In my mind, if you're scum then it's likely a mislynch will happen, so you need to commit less effort.
On the other hand, if you're town, it takes more effort to find scum.

Again, this is not how I play as scum. Every time you think "someone is different than normal", your first reaction should be that that's a townie sign.

What if you were to play similar to your town self. You can see how this is a bad argument

So tell me, how does my town self differ from my scum self?

Well you do scummier things when you're scum. Like try to start a wagon on Joseph.

Even though I think you are scummiest right now, I'll vote: mail-mi. Deadline is soon right?

Another unannounced L-2.

I don't think that is a thing

No?

[faust]

Normally faust is different to this.
In my mind, if you're scum then it's likely a mislynch will happen, so you need to commit less effort.
On the other hand, if you're town, it takes more effort to find scum.

Again, this is not how I play as scum. Every time you think "someone is different than normal", your first reaction should be that that's a townie sign.

What if you were to play similar to your town self. You can see how this is a bad argument

So tell me, how does my town self differ from my scum self?

Also this is a horrible question. This is asking what your scum meta is and how it differs from your town meta. I never want to answer that question for you

So basically you're saying you'll never make a case on me? Okay, then I'm not very worried about your vote, other than that it's useless.

[J Reggie]

Normally faust is different to this.
In my mind, if you're scum then it's likely a mislynch will happen, so you need to commit less effort.
On the other hand, if you're town, it takes more effort to find scum.

Again, this is not how I play as scum. Every time you think "someone is different than normal", your first reaction should be that that's a townie sign.

What if you were to play similar to your town self. You can see how this is a bad argument

So tell me, how does my town self differ from my scum self?

Also this is a horrible question. This is asking what your scum meta is and how it differs from your town meta. I never want to answer that question for you

So basically you're saying you'll never make a case on me? Okay, then I'm not very worried about your vote, other than that it's useless.

I'd be tempted to vote you for this if it didn't mean I would die. That's clearly not what he was saying. Telling you about how others perceive your meta is different from making a case on you in a specific game.

[mail-mi]

Same, J Reggie. I really don't like that exchange, at all. vote: faust

[Witherweaver]

I'm happy lynching either Mail-Mi or J Reggie.

[faust]

Normally faust is different to this.
In my mind, if you're scum then it's likely a mislynch will happen, so you need to commit less effort.
On the other hand, if you're town, it takes more effort to find scum.

Again, this is not how I play as scum. Every time you think "someone is different than normal", your first reaction should be that that's a townie sign.

What if you were to play similar to your town self. You can see how this is a bad argument

So tell me, how does my town self differ from my scum self?

Also this is a horrible question. This is asking what your scum meta is and how it differs from your town meta. I never want to answer that question for you

So basically you're saying you'll never make a case on me? Okay, then I'm not very worried about your vote, other than that it's useless.

I'd be tempted to vote you for this if it didn't mean I would die. That's clearly not what he was saying. Telling you about how others perceive your meta is different from making a case on you in a specific game.

To make a case, you have to point out things where a person behaved in a scummy way. To talk about what is scummy, you need to present an idea as to what the person you're making a case on would actually do as scum. I mean you can of course also post bullshit stuff like "having little content is always scummy".

[faust]

Same, J Reggie. I really don't like that exchange, at all. vote: faust

And why not?

[mail-mi]

Same, J Reggie. I really don't like that exchange, at all. vote: faust

And why not?

It doesn't feel right. Can't quite put words to it, so I'll just say my gut.

[silverspawn]

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

[LaLight]

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I do not think mail-mi is easy to read. I read him all along for two days and did not understand he's scum.

[faust]

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I don't know, Reggie has been somewhat... unnoticable? I guess that's already scummy for him. But why is he a good lynch?

[faust]

And yeah, I don't think I agree that mail-mi is easier to read than Reggie.

[silverspawn]

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I don't know, Reggie has been somewhat... unnoticable? I guess that's already scummy for him. But why is he a good lynch?

I pretty much said this. Because the other two are bad lynches.

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I do not think mail-mi is easy to read. I read him all along for two days and did not understand he's scum.

Sure, but you're pretty new, so you might just not have gotten the hang of it yet. Is there anyone you think is easier to read than mail-mi?

[mail-mi]

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

It seems like J Reggie is mislynched often though.

I need to reread tonight.

[faust]

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I don't know, Reggie has been somewhat... unnoticable? I guess that's already scummy for him. But why is he a good lynch?

I pretty much said this. Because the other two are bad lynches.

Okay. I kinda hoped there would be more.

[LaLight]

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I don't know, Reggie has been somewhat... unnoticable? I guess that's already scummy for him. But why is he a good lynch?

I pretty much said this. Because the other two are bad lynches.

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I do not think mail-mi is easy to read. I read him all along for two days and did not understand he's scum.

Sure, but you're pretty new, so you might just not have gotten the hang of it yet. Is there anyone you think is easier to read than mail-mi?

It's hard to read everyone for me but somehow people say things I trust. When mail-mi say things I doubt pretty much every letter of it. I don't know if it falls under the term "easiness of reading"
Maybe it is all just my impression on his previous games.
Of course I'm not 100% sure but I am pretty confident you are town. Dunno why. It feels like this. It felt like this in Olympics too and I was right.

PPE: 2

[gkrieg13]

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

Uh I very much disagree with the first point, and disagree also with your second point.

mail-mi is difficult to read.  Especially now when we haven't seen him flip town since he has been back.

faust has been scummy, and him being a prime NK target isn't a reason not to lynch him. 

Why on Joseph!  He is soooooooo town!

[gkrieg13]

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I don't know, Reggie has been somewhat... unnoticable? I guess that's already scummy for him. But why is he a good lynch?

In what ways has he been unnoticeable?  I feel like he has been very present and noticeable.

[faust]

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

I don't know, Reggie has been somewhat... unnoticable? I guess that's already scummy for him. But why is he a good lynch?

In what ways has he been unnoticeable?  I feel like he has been very present and noticeable.

In that I don't remember anything from him except that there's a wagon on him.

[faust]

Why on Joseph!  He is soooooooo town!

[iguanaiguana]

I realized that my case on J Reggie was based on a vague memory of a previous scum game of his, so I decided to dig up the quote.

It is here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15591.msg624261#msg624261

In Duel Mafia, scum!J Reggie takes a few stabs at scummy looking townies before giving up on having scumreads entirely. Before the end, he just says that he has no useful scumreads and doesn't even believe in the counter-wagon. Of course, in some ways he's being honest. He knew e was town, and had no useful scumreads. Odd though that he wouldn't put the effort in to make a case against e and try to get people off of him.

Anyway, in a non-obvious way, J Reggie's half-hearted stabs at this game and complete lack of pushing the game forward read very similarly to that scum game.

Could I be wrong and he be town? Sure, but I feel better about this case than most D1 cases that I push. I'm definitely not changing my vote.

[faust]

Man, I'm so conflicted.

[iguanaiguana]

We are at 4-4-4 now.

Two of these wagons are stupid. Mail-mi is easy to read and wasting him now is stupid. faust is a prime NK target and hasn't been remotely scummy.

Can we lynch J Reggie? I mean I wouldn't have a problem with doing a complete switch on Joseph or something, but I do have a problem with the other two.

Uh I very much disagree with the first point, and disagree also with your second point.

mail-mi is difficult to read.  Especially now when we haven't seen him flip town since he has been back.

faust has been scummy, and him being a prime NK target isn't a reason not to lynch him. 

Why on Joseph!  He is soooooooo town!

Mail-mi being difficult to read isn't a good reason to lynch him, certainly not D1.

And as frustrating as it is, Faust is probably still a bad D1 lynch. He's too helpful as town, and scum will want too much for town to take him off of their hands without having to waste a night kill. He is a mislynch that scum loves to get on.

Can you give more concrete reasons for what I assume is your townread on J Reggie? Your defense of him is of the utmost vagueness.

[LaLight]

Why on Joseph!  He is soooooooo town!

Don't understand this either