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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1325 on: September 22, 2016, 12:28:47 pm »

vote: LaLight

Just re-read his D2 and he didn't even mention JReggie even once. If you are sure that you have found scum and going to vig someone the night after, shouldn't you even consider asking about other players opinions? Additionally, if you are actually sure you have found scum, you definitely should pursue his lynch. Instead, LaLight voted quite early for Seprix with a quite weak argument, nothing that should put him above someone you say the following about:
Well, i was actually shocked about JReggie. I was kinda sure.
Therefore, it seems, that the bussing on Seprix was arranged and JReggie night killed.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1326 on: September 22, 2016, 12:42:40 pm »

vote: LaLight

Just re-read his D2 and he didn't even mention JReggie even once. If you are sure that you have found scum and going to vig someone the night after, shouldn't you even consider asking about other players opinions? Additionally, if you are actually sure you have found scum, you definitely should pursue his lynch. Instead, LaLight voted quite early for Seprix with a quite weak argument, nothing that should put him above someone you say the following about:
Well, i was actually shocked about JReggie. I was kinda sure.
Therefore, it seems, that the bussing on Seprix was arranged and JReggie night killed.

Ok. I'll explain. At first, i pointed another one because he was acting strange, then I understood why. I needed to change my mind. I thought of JR, reread his D1 and didn't like it.
1) he told the same as Seprix that we will lose if he gets lynched.
2) Fake scumslip with 4 scums was still there.

Also, i thought that if there is 3 scums, it's obvious one of them is lynch- or deathproof. Also, i didn't see any 100% evidence he's IC. And I made my mind.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1327 on: September 22, 2016, 12:48:14 pm »

vote: LaLight

Just re-read his D2 and he didn't even mention JReggie even once. If you are sure that you have found scum and going to vig someone the night after, shouldn't you even consider asking about other players opinions? Additionally, if you are actually sure you have found scum, you definitely should pursue his lynch. Instead, LaLight voted quite early for Seprix with a quite weak argument, nothing that should put him above someone you say the following about:
Well, i was actually shocked about JReggie. I was kinda sure.
Therefore, it seems, that the bussing on Seprix was arranged and JReggie night killed.

And again, why should i claim in your case?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1328 on: September 22, 2016, 01:33:02 pm »

vote: LaLight

Just re-read his D2 and he didn't even mention JReggie even once. If you are sure that you have found scum and going to vig someone the night after, shouldn't you even consider asking about other players opinions? Additionally, if you are actually sure you have found scum, you definitely should pursue his lynch. Instead, LaLight voted quite early for Seprix with a quite weak argument, nothing that should put him above someone you say the following about:
Well, i was actually shocked about JReggie. I was kinda sure.
Therefore, it seems, that the bussing on Seprix was arranged and JReggie night killed.

Ok. I'll explain. At first, i pointed another one because he was acting strange, then I understood why. I needed to change my mind. I thought of JR, reread his D1 and didn't like it.
1) he told the same as Seprix that we will lose if he gets lynched.
2) Fake scumslip with 4 scums was still there.

Also, i thought that if there is 3 scums, it's obvious one of them is lynch- or deathproof. Also, i didn't see any 100% evidence he's IC. And I made my mind.
But all that info was available before, why didn't you check potential targets before and subtly ask for players opinion?
This would be the way I would expect to play a relatively unexperienced town to play, not like you claim you have.

Admittedly I don't understand why scum would claim the way you did, have to think about that.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1329 on: September 22, 2016, 01:41:27 pm »

I'm ready to vote: Haddock again. His long post is too calm, if that makes sense.  And if he disliked my vote/unvote so much, why not vote me?  Also, JReggie being lover was part of why I unvoted, not just RR's statement, though that felt truthful to me.
Mmh.  I guess I didn't make this particularly clear - I'm not voting until I hear from sudgy.  I'd like him to claim a game, and I think I can either incriminate or clear him depending on which game he's from.
EUGH.

I'm an idiot.

So here's the tale:  I have some investigatory powers and I targetted sudgy on N1.  I got "No Result", and thought I'd been somehow blocked.  Yesterday I just saw this is as a small reason to think sudgy might be scum.  I did the research properly overnight into roles from previous games who are investigation immune, so I thought I might be able to see sudgy's alignment that way.

Unfortunately it didn't occur to me to check in that time that "No Result" is distinct from "None".  It seemed obvious to me that "No Result" should mean my investigation failed somehow, and "None" would mean I was successful but nothing happened.  (So yes, obviously the investigation I had was not cop or anything, but of the follower/tracker/voyeur/watcher variety)

It just occurred to me to check and it turns out that "No result" and "None" are the same, so this is all nonsense.

BLEH.

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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1330 on: September 22, 2016, 03:11:28 pm »

Given that you have essentially claimed your role, why not tell us your specific results from sudgy and from last night?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1331 on: September 22, 2016, 03:20:21 pm »

That's an understandable mistake... I'd also think "No Result" = blocked intuitively.

Not sure if a claim is good. I think you should make the call. how much does it help town vs scum

Although I didn't know if it was good for me either so *shrug*

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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1332 on: September 22, 2016, 03:53:25 pm »

Vote: LaLight
An inexperienced SK would claim vig, and J Reggie was pretty darn townie.
Vote: Roadrunner

He's my guess for Mafia based on what I had read yesterday. I don't think there's been any evidence of a SK, has there? Also, why couldn't an inexperienced Mafia player claim Vig?

Do think that the Reggie kill is a bit suspicious as I'm not really seeing a reason why LaLight would have killed him.

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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1333 on: September 22, 2016, 03:56:57 pm »

so I will do a weird partial claim.

EFHW is probably town based on some results I have here.

partiel claim end.
OK, partial claiming sounds good.  I can pretty much clear Archetype based on some results.
Neat.

Also, why is EFHW probably town? The "weakening" thing?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1334 on: September 22, 2016, 03:58:00 pm »

Given that you have essentially claimed your role, why not tell us your specific results from sudgy and from last night?
This is some pretty heavy handed role fishing. I don't know if scum would do this.

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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1335 on: September 22, 2016, 05:41:28 pm »

Vote: LaLight
An inexperienced SK would claim vig, and J Reggie was pretty darn townie.
Vote: Roadrunner

He's my guess for Mafia based on what I had read yesterday. I don't think there's been any evidence of a SK, has there? Also, why couldn't an inexperienced Mafia player claim Vig?

Do think that the Reggie kill is a bit suspicious as I'm not really seeing a reason why LaLight would have killed him.

The reason is that there seems to be another source of NKs.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1336 on: September 22, 2016, 08:01:13 pm »

Roadrunner is an IC!
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1337 on: September 23, 2016, 05:04:02 am »

Given that you have essentially claimed your role, why not tell us your specific results from sudgy and from last night?

That's an understandable mistake... I'd also think "No Result" = blocked intuitively.

Not sure if a claim is good. I think you should make the call. how much does it help town vs scum

Although I didn't know if it was good for me either so *shrug*
Nyeh.  I guess it's fine to claim my N1 action in full.  I voyeured sudgy, No Result.  Not nearly as helpful as I thought it might have been.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1338 on: September 23, 2016, 06:49:39 am »

Also LaLight: what RMM are you from?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1339 on: September 23, 2016, 07:09:29 am »

Also LaLight: what RMM are you from?

I'd rather not answer yet.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1340 on: September 23, 2016, 07:10:32 am »

Also LaLight: what RMM are you from?

I'd rather not answer yet.
Or you're scum who didn't really think about that so now you're looking for an even night vig?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1341 on: September 23, 2016, 07:12:38 am »

Also LaLight: what RMM are you from?

I'd rather not answer yet.
Or you're scum who didn't really think about that so now you're looking for an even night vig?

no. Again. I wouldn't claim in this case. I can claim my RMM. I'd rather not though
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1342 on: September 23, 2016, 07:16:08 am »

How many even-night vigs can there be?  I'll go hunting for them when I get a chance.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1343 on: September 23, 2016, 07:22:19 am »

Also, can you please tell me, is probability high that I will be killed at night? as a vig?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1344 on: September 23, 2016, 07:24:14 am »

ok. well. also I have this curse card, so I don't think I can fix something. I'm from Dr. Who RMM12
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1345 on: September 23, 2016, 08:01:58 am »

ok. well. also I have this curse card, so I don't think I can fix something. I'm from Dr. Who RMM12
Who was targeted by your RB actions?
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1346 on: September 23, 2016, 08:02:30 am »

ok. well. also I have this curse card, so I don't think I can fix something. I'm from Dr. Who RMM12
Who was targeted by your RB actions?

As I told, I threw Pokeball at WW on N1.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1347 on: September 23, 2016, 08:05:14 am »

For reference
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Welcome to Time War Mafia, [username]. You are River Song, an enabled Time-Travelling odd-night Roleblocker, even-night Vigilante. You are a Time Traveler: each night, you may pick a night to travel to other than the current one. You may not cross your own time-stream (travel to the same night twice). Should you ever be forced to do so, you will be a pure Vanilla Townie for the duration of your “second” visit. You are an odd-night Roleblocker. On odd-numbered nights, you may PM me the name of one other player. Any actions performed by that player will fail. You are an even-night Vigilante. On even-numbered nights, you may PM me the name of another player. That player will be killed.

For example, if it is an odd-numbered night and you travel to an even-numbered night, your action would be even-night Vigilante.

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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1348 on: September 23, 2016, 08:06:47 am »

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For example, if it is an odd-numbered night and you travel to an even-numbered night, your action would be even-night Vigilante.

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Passive Ability: enabled regeneration (bulletproof from the first kill to target you each night)
Active Ability: enabled Time Travel, odd-night Roleblocker, even-night Vigilante

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated, and there is at least one town player alive.

I'm not bulletproof though.
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Re: RMM35: Rewind Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1349 on: September 23, 2016, 09:34:27 am »

well, I think I'm gonna die. Whom should I give Curse Card? Scum, tell me who you are, please.
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