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[ashersky]

Scum ought to be super angry in their QT right now.  Can't we just do this every night and win?

We are 1-shot Ghouls.

Wait what?

That was not in my PM.

Vote: ash lol

That's fine.  Your QT says 1-shot and mine doesn't?  Willing to die for that, no problem.

Vote: ashersky

Relax, that was a joke vote.

I hate situations like this.

NOTE TO ALL MODS: In open games, publish all Role PMs (Or at least Town ones).

I seriously believed it was a real vote.  No joke.  I had no idea it was a joke.

[ashersky]

Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.

I claimed no such thing.

You voted me based on the fact that I assumed it wasn't 1-shot, so I assumed you were sure it wasn't.

My QT says nothing about shots, just that I can use the Ghoul power.

[ashersky]

Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.

I claimed no such thing.

You voted me based on the fact that I assumed it wasn't 1-shot, so I assumed you were sure it wasn't.

My QT says nothing about shots, just that I can use the Ghoul power.

I mean, now you say it was a joke, so I don't know.  I'm not voting for you, so don't argue against me too hard.

[J Reggie]

This is my first time as town in an open setup, so I'm really enjoying all this setup-solvy stuff.  I'm glad town didn't do that in Fruit Ninja.

PPE: I lost count

[ashersky]

There's a setup post here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15591.msg606116#msg606116

It says there are 10* 1-shot ghouls, where asterisks generally mean there is a caveat (footnote) but I can't find any footnotes.

My PM and QT both do NOT mention shots, so I should have the ability every night.  Whether there are 1-shot ghouls out there or not I cannot confirm.  I don't think someone claiming 1-shot ghoul means they are scum and I would not vote for them specifically for that.

I would also caution against voting a ghoul without the shot limitation for the same reason, but Jimmmm did, until he said it was a joke.

I don't know.  At this point, it seems possible that some Ghouls are 1-shot and some aren't.

[ashersky]

This is my first time as town in an open setup, so I'm really enjoying all this setup-solvy stuff.  I'm glad town didn't do that in Fruit Ninja.

PPE: I lost count

Were you scum in Fruit Ninja?

[J Reggie]

This is my first time as town in an open setup, so I'm really enjoying all this setup-solvy stuff.  I'm glad town didn't do that in Fruit Ninja.

PPE: I lost count

Were you scum in Fruit Ninja?

Yes. 

[ashersky]

I thought about this setup a bit, since I signed up for my first game in months.

I think the absolute key is keeping the mafia NK as useless as possible.  No kills are awesome, for example.  The duels can help, because they are easy to read/WIFOM, for example.  We need to keep mislynches on even days to a minimum and redirect scum kills to scum.  So long as we do that, easy win.

[ashersky]

This is my first time as town in an open setup, so I'm really enjoying all this setup-solvy stuff.  I'm glad town didn't do that in Fruit Ninja.

PPE: I lost count

Were you scum in Fruit Ninja?

Yes. 

Good to know.  Generally townier to bring that up.

Lean town on Jim/JReggie, null on everyone else.  Auto-vote gkrieg13 for being gkrieg13.

[ashersky]

It's late here, out for the night.  Catch you all tomorrow.

[Jimmmmm]

I seriously believed it was a real vote.  No joke.  I had no idea it was a joke.

I believe you. I did literally say 'lol' in the same line as the vote though. My thought process was, with the mindset of early Day 1 jump-on-anything votes 'Ha that's because you have a scum PM' with no regard to whether you were actually right or not. I then went and checked the PM and the QT.

I also unfortunately believe you're probably Town because of this. I mean it's possible that ss published the Town PMs in the scum QT, but I don't know.

Also if I'm scum and a Townie says something about the Town PM (QT whatever), I'm not going to dispute that am I?

Happy to go back to Vote: J Reggie

[J Reggie]

It says there are 10* 1-shot ghouls, where asterisks generally mean there is a caveat (footnote) but I can't find any footnotes.

I think the asterisk means "10×", as in there are ten of them.  It's an open setup, so there shouldn't be anything that's not in the setup post. 

It's early for a read, but I'd say ash is probably town.  No idea who is scum, probably not jimmmmm either. 

PPE: why am I the default vote?

[gkrieg13]

vote: Jimmmm

For some reason his posts after the lol vote just don't quite feel right.

[Jimmmmm]

There's a setup post here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15591.msg606116#msg606116

It says there are 10* 1-shot ghouls, where asterisks generally mean there is a caveat (footnote) but I can't find any footnotes.

My PM and QT both do NOT mention shots, so I should have the ability every night.  Whether there are 1-shot ghouls out there or not I cannot confirm.  I don't think someone claiming 1-shot ghoul means they are scum and I would not vote for them specifically for that.

I would also caution against voting a ghoul without the shot limitation for the same reason, but Jimmmm did, until he said it was a joke.

I don't know.  At this point, it seems possible that some Ghouls are 1-shot and some aren't.

The * is not a caveat, it's a multiplication symbol. All 10 Ghouls are 1-shot.

[Jimmmmm]

It says there are 10* 1-shot ghouls, where asterisks generally mean there is a caveat (footnote) but I can't find any footnotes.

I think the asterisk means "10×", as in there are ten of them.  It's an open setup, so there shouldn't be anything that's not in the setup post. 

It's early for a read, but I'd say ash is probably town.  No idea who is scum, probably not jimmmmm either. 

PPE: why am I the default vote?

I had my vote on you before I voted for ash, just moving it back.

[teamlyle]

I mean ash is known for self-voting but this makes no sense

It's guaranteed that one of me and Jimmmmm is scum.  Vote one of us, no one else.  Just pick one, even if you are wrong, the other is scum, right?  This is literally a PM/QT wording argument.  No reads, no opinion, nothing.   It's based solely on fact.  Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.  Pick which one you think is correct.

Mine doesn't mention the words "1-shot" either...

Vote: Jimmmmm

[iguanaiguana]

Butr relaly, to be striaght up honest.

Town has 2 thing: ghoul and duels.

All towny should redirect to their secret scummiest read.  Scum can't know who that is, in case you super suck at reading and choose town and they just shoot you to kill town, or in case you are aesome like me and choose scum and they don't shoot you.

Scum is super scared that awe will ghoul to them.  That's bad news bears.  So NO READS LISTS.

Unless they are fake reads lists.  And then you should say "this is a fake reads list...or IS IT???" so they don't know.

That would be amazing.

THIS IS A FAKE READS LIST!!!!!!!!!!

Or is it???

Scum: Ashersky

When he plans the plans, he's always the scummy scumster.

Town: Everyone else

I think in this setup, Ashersky is a serial killer, and the rest of us are town. I read it in the setup. It's posted in the setup.

Vote: Ashersky

This will be easy.

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 1.2

ashersky (2): ashersky, iguanaiguana
J Reggie (1): Jimmmmm
faust (1): Joseph2302
Joseph2302 (4): faust, Seprix, chairs, J Reggie
Jimmmmm (2): gkrieg13, teamlyle

Not Voting (3): Haddock, e, Egork

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at Jul 29, 18:00 forum time. That is in 9 days and 22+ hours.

[iguanaiguana]

Ok, now that I've read all the posts, I need to do another fake reads list

scum:

Seprix
Ashersky
Someone

All three of them are super partnery.


Vote: Seprix

rofl

[J Reggie]

I mean ash is known for self-voting but this makes no sense

It's guaranteed that one of me and Jimmmmm is scum.  Vote one of us, no one else.  Just pick one, even if you are wrong, the other is scum, right?  This is literally a PM/QT wording argument.  No reads, no opinion, nothing.   It's based solely on fact.  Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.  Pick which one you think is correct.

Mine doesn't mention the words "1-shot" either...

Vote: Jimmmmm

vote: teamlyle

[iguanaiguana]

I mean ash is known for self-voting but this makes no sense

It's guaranteed that one of me and Jimmmmm is scum.  Vote one of us, no one else.  Just pick one, even if you are wrong, the other is scum, right?  This is literally a PM/QT wording argument.  No reads, no opinion, nothing.   It's based solely on fact.  Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.  Pick which one you think is correct.

Mine doesn't mention the words "1-shot" either...

Vote: Jimmmmm

It's in the setup though.

This counts as a derp clear to me.

[Jimmmmm]

Someone

?

[teamlyle]

I mean ash is known for self-voting but this makes no sense

It's guaranteed that one of me and Jimmmmm is scum.  Vote one of us, no one else.  Just pick one, even if you are wrong, the other is scum, right?  This is literally a PM/QT wording argument.  No reads, no opinion, nothing.   It's based solely on fact.  Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.  Pick which one you think is correct.

Mine doesn't mention the words "1-shot" either...

Vote: Jimmmmm

It's in the setup though.

This counts as a derp clear to me.

Seriously though, my QT says nothing about me only being able to use the ability once (even though I know I can only use it once.) That's why I voted for Jimmmmm, he must've tried to make up what would be in a town QT.

[J Reggie]

I mean ash is known for self-voting but this makes no sense

It's guaranteed that one of me and Jimmmmm is scum.  Vote one of us, no one else.  Just pick one, even if you are wrong, the other is scum, right?  This is literally a PM/QT wording argument.  No reads, no opinion, nothing.   It's based solely on fact.  Jimmmmm claims his QT says 1-shot, I claims mine does not.  Pick which one you think is correct.

Mine doesn't mention the words "1-shot" either...

Vote: Jimmmmm

It's in the setup though.

This counts as a derp clear to me.

Seriously though, my QT says nothing about me only being able to use the ability once (even though I know I can only use it once.) That's why I voted for Jimmmmm, he must've tried to make up what would be in a town QT.

It's obvious from what he said later that he's also town. Also, I was hoping to catch scum from having them counter claim the cutie thing.

[Seprix]

I think in this setup, Ashersky is a serial killer, and the rest of us are town. I read it in the setup. It's posted in the setup.

Vote: Ashersky

This will be easy.

...Except you're completely and absolutely wrong. And no, I'm not giving you a townpass because you didn't read the set-up like you claimed you did.