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[Haddock]

The question didn't minimize scum info in the slightest.

vote: haddock

You are so wrong in the scummiest of ways

If you really believe this then one of two things is true:
A) you have not thought enough about it.
B) you are somehow completely certain that RR is town. Now how could that be the case?
vote: gkrieg

[faust]

I'm missing off this list, as is someone else.

Well, I'm missing too, small wonder. That fact that you're missing is intentional, because we're not lynching you today.

[faust]

gotta look at gkrieg and Haddock and ADK

Yes, you do.

[silverspawn]

gotta look at gkrieg and Haddock and ADK

Yes, you do.

Yes, I do.

err when is the deadline? *looks*

it's tomorrow! No rush. I'll get to it sometime today, then.

[Roadrunner7671]

Tomorrow? Go to Faust?

[Roadrunner7671]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

[Joseph2302]

I'm missing off this list, as is someone else.

Well, I'm missing too, small wonder. That fact that you're missing is intentional, because we're not lynching you today.

Thought there were 13 players not 12.
Counting is hard.

[Joseph2302]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Vote: Jimmmmm

Seems okay to me.

[Roadrunner7671]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Vote: Jimmmmm

Seems okay to me.

Together 4ever

[Jimmmmm]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Oh good. What makes you think I'm scum in particular, or is it just LALL?

[Roadrunner7671]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Oh good. What makes you think I'm scum in particular, or is it just LALL?

Love
All
Lurker
Lynches?

[Jimmmmm]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Oh good. What makes you think I'm scum in particular, or is it just LALL?

Love
All
Lurker
Lynches?

Lynch All Lurkers, Literally. (-Robz888)

[Roadrunner7671]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Oh good. What makes you think I'm scum in particular, or is it just LALL?

Love
All
Lurker
Lynches?

Lynch All Lurkers, Literally. (-Robz888)

I prefer to LASL

[Jimmmmm]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

Oh good. What makes you think I'm scum in particular, or is it just LALL?

Love
All
Lurker
Lynches?

Lynch All Lurkers, Literally. (-Robz888)

I prefer to LASL

Cool. See the first part of my question.

[ced]

Ok, this whole solvy vs. analytical thing is so much of a non-starter that I've been super-duper loathe to respond to it at all. But you keep bringing it up, so here goes.

It's a pain in the butt to explain every single player's meta and get all the details right. So I skipped a few people at the end by saying, "Hey they're pretty normal, they just try to solve the game like anyone else." Then you asked about me and I didn't know WTH to say about myself so I just said "Uh, I'm normal too." When you interpreted solvy to mean "analytical" it didn't sound quite right to me but I also didn't bother to correct it because it more or less DOES apply to how Gkrieg/ADK/Haddock/me all play. Then, Haddock decided to disagree with the analytical comment and go on his whole "Woe is me, I don't know how to mafia" rant. The thing is, Haddock is solvy/analytical/whatever. He's good at the game. He just likes to whine and moan and complain about himself. There, that's Haddock's meta.

I wasn't hoping for or expecting town points for telling you about the other players in the game. I was just bored and you seemed curious enough about people so I figured, why not let you in. I was acutally acutely aware that I could be giving all this information to scum but I figured, well if you have partners they would probably tell you anyway. It's common knowledge for all of us; you're the outsider. I was just being nice. And not in a buddying sort of way, because I expected no town-cred whatsoever for it.

I did mention that the whole "solvy" vs "analytical" thing might just be a semantics argument, and I'm not bothered about that directly. I'm more interested in how it fits with your self-meta in 339. I'm even more interested than that in precisely what you were talking about in 353, with the "silver and Faust are 100% in agreement" thing.

[Roadrunner7671]

He just likes to whine and moan and complain about himself. There, that's Haddock's meta.

Not sure I agree with this

[iguanaiguana]

However, speaking of 339, he describes his scumgame as being "solvy" (and, correct me if I'm wrong, that implicitly his town game as not?), but yet he describes himself as a "normal solvy fella" in our qt. It's weird more than anything else, but it follows that one of those evaluations isn't correct.

Okay then, you are wrong. When I said my scum game is 'solvy,' I never implied that my town game is not 'solvy.' Rather, I said in my scum game (there's only been one so far), I was solvy etc. 'the whole way through.' In contrast to that, in my QT I said this about my town games: 'I'd put myself in the normal solvy fella camp with Gkrieg, Haddock & ADK, except that sometimes I get a bit emotionally involved and go a bit crazy. That hasn't happened this game yet tho ^^'

At 339, I was appealing to everyone else that I am not scum here because I was going a bit crazy and getting angry at everyone for voting me, a thing I don't do nearly as much when I am scum. In other words, when I'm a jerk, it's a town tell.

 I have an errand to run, when I get back I'll respond to the other thing.

[EFHW]

Vote Count 1.10

iguana (0): Awaclus
Haddock (2): ADK, iguana, gkrieg
Seprix (0): ced
Joseph (0): Jimmmmm
ADK (0): faust
faust (0): Seprix
gkrieg (0): Haddock
Jimmmmm (2): Roadrunner, Joseph

Not voting (1): silverspawn
With 12 alive it takes 7 to majority lynch

Day ends Saturday, June 11th at 1 p.m.

[iguanaiguana]

I'm even more interested than that in precisely what you were talking about in 353, with the "silver and Faust are 100% in agreement" thing.

silverspawn has done some buddying things to Faust this game; I was commenting on it.

At #110 and #111 they both cast their first non-RVS vote on Roadrunner.
At #123 he defends Faust from ADK's vote on him, saying "you're messing with my date!"
At #128, he disagrees with ADK's notion that Faust's vote is bad and Faust knows it's bad.
At #147 Faust tells Joseph "Pulling this game back into RVS is not the way to go, man." At #148, presumably before reading #147, silver participates in the RVS discussion, but at #149 changes his mind (I assume after reading Faust's comment) and says "actually though yeah, this is an effort to get back to RVS. Not good!" After Joseph's claim this actually looks worse of both of them, slightly.
At #204 silver says that Faust's vote on Roadrunner was for reactions, and his was also completely for reactions, as he found Roadrunner towny not scummy. So they both had the same reason for casting their vote at the same time.
At #205, silver makes his first long post defending Faust and voting you for voting Faust. It's almost a proxy-OMGUS kinda thing.
At #220, silver praises how Faust noticed that scum/scum pairings are less likely in this setup due to the alleged mod error.
At #248, silver gives Faust town points for the slip, and further insists that his theory about scum/scum pairings being unlikely still has merit regardless of the existence of daychat.

After #248, silver's 'following Faust around' breaks down and he starts doing more of his own thing. It also looks a lot townier to me than his early stuff. For the sake a complete reread in one place, I'll look at that too.

At #335 & #351, silverspawn puts a vote on me and removes it without explaining it, at the same time that Faust was defending me and calling me towny.
Lurks a good bit, says there isn't much to post about, posts his town/scum reads. Obviously, Faust is a town read for him.
At #463, he explains his vote/unvote on me. His reasons are good. This reads very towny to me. Hard to fabricate.
At #464, he calls Seprix's vote on Faust terrible, then at #472 explains why he thinks Seprix's vote was terrible. 

[iguanaiguana]

So silverspawn agreeing with Faust and following Faust on certain actions is demonstrable in the thread and easy to find. I called it interesting because I'm not sure that it's necessarily a scumtell for either of them. But it's something to keep in mind for sure down the road. I don't really want to say more about this right now because the act of observing a behavior manipulates the behavior. I've already said quite a bit more than I wanted to initially because you found my original post scummy.

[faust]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

I thought you would tunnel me until you die. This is disappointing.

[iguanaiguana]

I really want to know what kind of weird-ass scum narrative you came up with for these posts of mine that you found strange.

[iguanaiguana]

So I can identify a dead case. We'll lynch Faust later.
Vote: Jimmmmmmmm

I thought you would tunnel me until you die. This is disappointing.

He has an imaginary vote on you.

[gkrieg13]

The question didn't minimize scum info in the slightest.

vote: haddock

You are so wrong in the scummiest of ways

If you really believe this then one of two things is true:
A) you have not thought enough about it.
B) you are somehow completely certain that RR is town. Now how could that be the case?
vote: gkrieg

Wrong. I've definitely thought enough about it.

I don't have to believe that RR is town. He actually feels a little bit off.

[Seprix]

Hey, the whole party is here! No significant wagons at all have been formed so far in this game to my knowledge.

Interesting evidence in a nutshell:
-Faust is likely town
-Joseph is likely PR

Anything else I'm missing?