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[Awaclus]

I still don't get the concept of having a favorite color. That's like having a favorite musical note or a favorite letter of the alphabet. It's not really anything on its own, it only becomes something meaningful when it's combined with something else (like a shape, or another color).

[werothegreat]

favorite letter of the alphabet

Q, obviously.

[ThetaSigma12]

favorite letter of the alphabet

Q, obviously.

Z, duh.

[crlundy]

Also, I guess I could throw in my two cents about the teasers in this thread:

I assume Landmarks will be responsible for most of the Setups and VP symbols.

I'm guessing the hexagons do only come in red and are Debt Tokens. Someone mentioned how hexagons fit together like Catan, but I think it's mostly to distinguish them from the red circle player tokens. The debt would go with the paying later thing. $0-cost card, but when you gain this gain a Debt Token? Maybe you pay VP tokens to get rid of tokens (of course the Debt Token card would also have to give out VP tokens). Or maybe you just pay them off with money, but they're worth -VP.

Trashing from the Supply I think is coupled with handing out VP tokens, since VP-giving cards need to still bring the game to an end somehow. Not sure how it should work, though.

I also usually hate bidding, and love Dominion for the lack of politics. But I have no reason not to trust Donald, so I think I'll like it. I think the "bidding against yourself" thing like Spades is a reasonable guess. Or some kind of turn-based or anonymous bidding.

Also I like that Duration cards aren't noted as "returning from a previous set". Means that they're just a standard thing from now on and we'll get to see them with new themes, whenever it makes sense. And for no real reason, I hope one is a VP-token Duration card. Also, kind of sad there are no Reserve cards, but maybe next time...

[crlundy]

favorite letter of the alphabet

Q, obviously.

Z, duh.

Not theta? ...or sigma?

[J Reggie]

favorite musical note

C flat, of course.

[pst]

I would love to have purple tokens.

Green? Purple!

[E.Honda]

favorite letter of the alphabet

Q, obviously.

Z, duh.

Not theta? ...or sigma?

I like ξ

[ThetaSigma12]

favorite letter of the alphabet

Q, obviously.

Z, duh.

Not theta? ...or sigma?

Favorite Greek letter, yes. Aleph is my favorite Hebrew letter.

While we are on the subject, on a scale of 1-10, what is your favorite color of the alphabet?

[ThetaSigma12]

favorite musical note

C flat, of course.

I prefer c sharp double flat.

[Accatitippi]

Donald is online! (stalking is serious business, guys)

[Joseph2302]

Donald is online! (stalking is serious business, guys)

And he's posted the first preview!!

[Seprix]

- 76 pieces of card art.
- 60 VP symbols.
- 16 red hexagons.
- 10 uses of "Setup."
- 2 Duration cards.
- 2 ways to trash cards from the Supply.
- An Action-Treasure card.
- An Event costing $14.
- A way to double your money.
- A way to bid.

Knowing the new Debt mechanics...

Doubling your money is probably an Event that gives a huge debt to yourself after you do it, probably equal to the cost of how much you spent on the event.

It seems reasonable that one of the Duration cards costs Debt.

Bidding could be a Debt thing, but I doubt it.

You probably can buy up to X VP tokens per turn, but you get a debt penalty as a result.

[J Reggie]

To me, it makes the most sense for bidding to be a debt thing. You get whatever number of debt tokens you bid if you win and then get whatever you won.

[Seprix]

To me, it makes the most sense for bidding to be a debt thing. You get whatever number of debt tokens you bid if you win and then get whatever you won.

Huh. That's reasonable. I like the ever increasing price of an Event due to overpaying for it throughout the game too, though.

[Awaclus]

Don't we already have a way to double your money though? If you have $1 and you play a Copper, you've just doubled your money.

[DoomYoshi]

I still don't get the concept of having a favorite color. That's like having a favorite musical note or a favorite letter of the alphabet. It's not really anything on its own, it only becomes something meaningful when it's combined with something else (like a shape, or another color).

I had a blog once on people's favorite letters of the alphabet:
https://alphabetpowerrankings.wordpress.com/

[crlundy]

Doubling your money is probably an Event that gives a huge debt to yourself after you do it, probably equal to the cost of how much you spent on the event.

How would this work? Because once you buy the Event, you have all this money, but you also have Debt. So you can't buy anything. And it seems a little wonky to have an Event set up an end-of-Buy-Phase/Clean-Up-Phase effect, just because nothing's in play to help you remember to take the Debt then.

Also, I may be confused on how this is a completely sensible mechanic, I'm still wrapping my head around it all, haha.

[michaeljb]

you have all this money, but you also have Debt. So you can't buy anything.

You can pay off Debt in between buying cards. Example:

* I have $10 and 2 buys
* buy a City Quarter
* now I have $10, 8 Debt, and 1 buy
* pay off 8 Debt
* now I have $2, 1 buy
* I can now buy an Estate

[crlundy]

you have all this money, but you also have Debt. So you can't buy anything.

You can pay off Debt in between buying cards. Example:

* I have $10 and 2 buys
* buy a City Quarter
* now I have $10, 8 Debt, and 1 buy
* pay off 8 Debt
* now I have $2, 1 buy
* I can now buy an Estate

Yes, but say the Event is +$X, take Y Debt, then you might as well just have the Event be +$(X-Y). Right?

[drsteelhammer]

you have all this money, but you also have Debt. So you can't buy anything.

You can pay off Debt in between buying cards. Example:

* I have $10 and 2 buys
* buy a City Quarter
* now I have $10, 8 Debt, and 1 buy
* pay off 8 Debt
* now I have $2, 1 buy
* I can now buy an Estate

Yes, but say the Event is +$X, take Y Debt, then you might as well just have the Event be +$(X-Y). Right?

but if the Event says take X times Z where Z is the amount of money you have, it makes a difference.

[eHalcyon]

- 76 pieces of card art.
- 60 VP symbols.
- 16 red hexagons.
- 10 uses of "Setup."
- 2 Duration cards.
- 2 ways to trash cards from the Supply.
- An Action-Treasure card.
- An Event costing $14.
- A way to double your money.
- A way to bid.

Knowing the new Debt mechanics...

Doubling your money is probably an Event that gives a huge debt to yourself after you do it, probably equal to the cost of how much you spent on the event.

It seems reasonable that one of the Duration cards costs Debt.

Bidding could be a Debt thing, but I doubt it.

You probably can buy up to X VP tokens per turn, but you get a debt penalty as a result.

Mostly agree, but I think bidding with debt is very plausible and I don't really expect there to be buying VP tokens with a debt penalty (though it could happen, sure).

[Kirian]

I still don't get the concept of having a favorite color. That's like having a favorite musical note or a favorite letter of the alphabet. It's not really anything on its own, it only becomes something meaningful when it's combined with something else (like a shape, or another color).

My favorite musical note is also my favorite programming language: Moat

[Seprix]

I still don't get the concept of having a favorite color. That's like having a favorite musical note or a favorite letter of the alphabet. It's not really anything on its own, it only becomes something meaningful when it's combined with something else (like a shape, or another color).

My favorite musical note is also my favorite programming language: Moat

That is neither a programming language or a musical note, you hack fraud. Exploiting the minds of the users of forum.dominionstrategy like that is a horrid crime. Why, I think we're witnessing a decline in civility!

[Witherweaver]

My favorite programming language: ArnoldC.