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[Awaclus]

Except look at my one scum game. All I do is kill the people who scumread me, plain a simple. It loses me the game, but I can't help it. I hate people calling me scum, and when I have the power to kill them, I do.

It would be trivial for you to do the exact opposite in this game, given that you only have one past scum game.

[iguanaiguana]

Rereading e now, I'm leaning town on e.

Comes in a bit late, puts a vote on Haddock.
Townreads me
Switches to Chairs after Haddock posts his defense.
Continues to like the Chairs vote.
"Yawn...Can we lynch chairs yet?"
Comments on Roadrunner's odd defense of Chairs.
Calls Gkrieg's hammer on Chairs "Interesting"
Also doesn't like Haddock's comment "Roadrunner is a good start for tomorrow."
Agrees Roadrunner looks scummy

So his scumreads right now are Haddock/Roadrunner, then Gkrieg. Pretty standard.

On re-read e doesn't look particularly towny. Pretty null/conflicted on him. His "Can we lynch chairs yet?" comment two IRL days into D1 is not great.

[iguanaiguana]

Except look at my one scum game. All I do is kill the people who scumread me, plain a simple. It loses me the game, but I can't help it. I hate people calling me scum, and when I have the power to kill them, I do.

It would be trivial for you to do the exact opposite in this game, given that you only have one past scum game.

Sure, that's fine. I didn't expect you to believe me. I was just telling you my feelings on rereading you that I would have totally killed you.

[Witherweaver]

I think Iguana is seeming town now.

[iguanaiguana]

I think Iguana is seeming town now.

And it's probably not even just because I would have totally killed Awaclus!

[gkrieg13]

I think Iguana is seeming town now.

And it's probably not even just because I would have totally killed Awaclus!

You should probably stop saying that. Although I am also leaning town on you

[Roadrunner7671]

no time to post but since adk died doesnt that make me seem more towny

[Witherweaver]

no time to post but since adk died doesnt that make me seem more towny

Why?

[iguanaiguana]

I think Iguana is seeming town now.

And it's probably not even just because I would have totally killed Awaclus!

You should probably stop saying that. Although I am also leaning town on you

 

Alright I'm gunna finish my rereads now

[iguanaiguana]

Witherweaver is next - He's somewhere in e's world of couldbescumIguess

He starts out questioning a lot but not voting, then goes after chairs
Then he gives a reason for his chairs vote
ADK questions him some, they disagree on how to read the game
Disagrees with Roadrunner's ADK vote
Gives his reads. Scum to town: Chairs > Haddock > Iguana = Gkrieg. Town on ADK, with nulls on Awaclus, Roadrunner, e.
Never moves off chairs, not present at all during EoD1
Starts D2 with a Haddock vote
Says he doesn't like a RR vote because he prefers Haddock.
And finally townreads me for my earlier rereads.

My read on WW depends on flips of other living players. He suspected chairs, but most of us did at one point and he may have just not been online during EoD1. I don't think WW is a good lynch today.

[Witherweaver]

Awaclus, if I was scum, I would have killed you.

This would be a cool thing to say for Iguana and Awaclus as partners.

PPE: This didn't get posted for some reason

[yuma]

Vote Count 2.1

RR: (2) Awaclus, Haddock (L-2)
Haddock: (2) WW, iguana (L-2)

Not Voting: (3) gkrieg, RR, 2.7

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day2 will last for 7 days.

[iguanaiguana]

Gkrieg Reread - I feel scummish, mostly based on the unannounced hammer.

RVS on Roadrunner, early townreads on me and ADK
L-1 on Haddock along with some kinda lame reads
A few questions suspecting RR but no vote (possible distancing attempt?)
Townreads WW
Gives reasons for people to keep their votes on Haddock
Says he could vote chairs, but likes Haddock better. Townreads e.
Townreads Awaclus
Starts looking into Chairs, comes to the conclusion that he's behaving similarly to a previous old scum game, votes for Chairs
"Oh good, that was the hammer" just after ADK had posted intent to hammer Roadrunner
Says he thought the case on rr was bad, but slips and accidentally says chairs instead of rr.
Next day: "My bad guys"
"If chairs was Obv!town, why were people voting for him?"
Says lets look for scum on the chairs wagon, because the RR wagon was probably town driven.
Townleans me after my reads.

So Gkrieg hands out townreads like candy: me, ADK, WW, Awaclus, e. But he also has given consistent scumreads to the major wagons of Haddock and Chairs, and has avoided giving a straight read on Roadrunner the whole game.

My conclusion: His alignment depends somewhat on flips too, but it really kinda just looks like a Roadrunner/Gkrieg scumteam. It's actually hard for me not to read the game that way. Certainly some mitigating evidence though in the fact that neither of those two have voted today though.

[gkrieg13]

RR just doesn't seem scummy to me this game. Of the current wagons, I would much rather put haddock at L-1

vote: Haddock

L-1

[iguanaiguana]

Haddock reread:

RVS on me
Memes
OMG E US
Big defense post, explains his weak scumread on e, then votes RR for "not being himself." This is at a point where RR has said very little and (we later find out) has been on a class trip. He also Gives null-town to me, mild town to WW, null on chairs, null on Gkrieg. Town on Awaclus for no reason.
Defends himself against ADK
Defends his read on RR
Starts scumreading chairs more and more, gives mild-town to Gkrieg.
"I think chairs should put up a reads list.  That way we have them down solidly if we end up lynching him and he turns out to be town." - Oh my goodness Haddock, why?
Another big post, finding ADK, e, RR & Chairs all somewhat scummy. Points out that RR's post about ADK is really strange (this ends up getting us to almost-lynch RR).
"Wouldn't lynch ADK today"
"Oh, my vote is already on Roadrunner" - It's been there the whole game, buddy.
Says Gkrieg's hammer is the "scummiest of scummy hammers... if Chairs is town."
"RR is a good start for tomorrow if chairs is town."
Keeps reiterating that he wants to hear from chairs during twilight
10 posts into D2, puts RR at L-1. This is what freaked me out and made me switch my vote onto him.
"There's no way I'm the only one who thinks RR is scum!"
Doesn't like my switching to him
That's about it.

I don't know what to make of Haddock here. I'm actually going to Unvote though becasue if the scumteam is Gkrieg/RR, then they could do an extended hammer on him right now and that's scary to me.

Unvote

[2.71828.....]

I was just rereading the thread and couldn't really find something from RR that stood out to me as scummy. I mean, he wasn't as active as usual, but IRL stuff explains that and there is nothing wrong with that. He hasn't done anything crazy or bad.

I could go for gkrieg or haddock though. I got lynched once because of a super scummy hammer that I did as scum, almost trying to play the too scummy to be scum thing (in that game I was actually just trying to draw an investigation on myself because I had a godfather-esque ability). But still. Scummy hammers can be totally be from scum.

I will go vote: gkrieg for now with haddock as my #2

PPE and that's L-1

[Awaclus]

RR just doesn't seem scummy to me this game. Of the current wagons, I would much rather put haddock at L-1

vote: Haddock

L-1

Are you kidding me?

[iguanaiguana]

Roadrunner Reread!

Votes me, then unvotes me because  it's L-2
Calls his vote on me RVS (Others had been voting me for real reasons at this point)
"Haddock is clearly town"
Class trip to DC post
Wants us to look at ADK
Can't find a reason to vote for ADK, votes for him anyway. Constantly bringing up how small the game is.
"Why chairs? He's jokey like me and no one wants to lynch me."
Gives town points to Haddock for suspecting him but hedges it because of "WIFOM."
Implies that in a small game, the aggressive players are scummy
Puts chairs at L-1 without a reason (Well, the reason is that he's getting votes.) Claims VT.
Claims that ADK's death makes him more towny.

The rest is just alignment neutral bemoaning of his sorry condition in life.

I think ADK was a fairly obvious NK, and that a scumteam with RR on it would be very likely to choose him. Scummy things from Roadrunner include the overly strong town-assignment to Haddock when Haddock was suspected early, his weak and strangely worded case on ADK, and his switch to Chairs who he had a townread on that lead to his not getting killed yesterday.

Haddock and RR are unlikely scumpartners. Making the right choice here seems clutch.

[iguanaiguana]

RR just doesn't seem scummy to me this game. Of the current wagons, I would much rather put haddock at L-1

vote: Haddock

L-1

Are you kidding me?

Good point, that does look like something Roadrunner's scumpartner would say

Vote: Roadrunner

I don't think anything is really changing my mind. Haddock's comments about chairs are bad, but not as bad as these two.

[iguanaiguana]

L-1 again

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: Iguanaiguana

This kid is actually scum. When I'm dead, take him out

[gkrieg13]

RR just doesn't seem scummy to me this game. Of the current wagons, I would much rather put haddock at L-1

vote: Haddock

L-1

Are you kidding me?

no.  I really don't get scummy vibes from RR

[yuma]

Mister Robz, on Wednesday evening last I received His Moderator's commission to form a new Mafia Game. It was the evident wish and will of the mafia sub-forum and f.DS that this should be conceived on the broadest possible basis and that it should include all players, both those who supported Townies and also the players of the Scum. I have completed the most important part of this task.

...

Sir, to form a Mafia Game of this scale and complexity is a serious undertaking in itself, but it must be remembered that we are in the preliminary stage of one of the greatest mafia games in history, that we are in action at many points in the sub-forum and Quicktopics, that we have to be prepared in Mafiascum Wikis, that the voting is continuous and that many preparations have to be made here with vote counts. In this crisis I hope I may be pardoned if I do not address the non-Mafia Game sub-forum at any length today. I hope that any of my friends and fellow players, or former players, who are affected by this game, will make all allowances for any lack of ceremony with which it has been necessary to act. I would say to this forum, as I said to those who have joined the game: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat."

...

But I take up my task with buoyancy and hope. I feel sure that our cause will not be suffered to be lynched among townies. At this time I feel entitled to claim the aid of all, and I say, "Come then, let us go forward together with our united vote."

yuma


Vote Count 2.2

RR: (3) Awaclus, Haddock, iguana (L-1)
Haddock: (2) WW, gkrieg (L-2)
gkrieg: (1) 2.7
iguana: (1) RR

Not Voting: (0)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day2 will last for 7 days.

[SirMartin]

Tag

[2.71828.....]

Vote: Iguanaiguana

This kid is actually scum. When I'm dead, take him out

I get the OMGUS, but gkrieg is a much better lynch than iguana