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[silverspawn]

he was *** scummy though.

[faust]

oh. unvote vote: faust then.

Still? What do you make of my claim, and fontisian's reaction to it, then?

[iguanaiguana]

Feels like scum has to be softing some fake stuff considering how many people have dispelled a wagon by softing something at this point.

[iguanaiguana]

but yeah Unvote

[silverspawn]

oh. uhm. I think your logic is sound (about scum not pushing you) if you're town. But I didn't see a reason why it makes you town. Vanilla-iz-ing-thing powers aren't disproportionally scum powers I don't think. You could be scum having been vanillaizized

[silverspawn]

but yeah Unvote

it's one thing if someone softclaims stuff. but softclaiming about someone else sort of ties you together. THat's craziness after one scum got lynched already.

[faust]

oh. uhm. I think your logic is sound (about scum not pushing you) if you're town. But I didn't see a reason why it makes you town. Vanilla-iz-ing-thing powers aren't disproportionally scum powers I don't think. You could be scum having been vanillaizized

True, but in that case I would be the worst scum to lynch. Also, well I didn't think that there was a Heroes character that fit with a Vanillaising power. I don't quite know what to make of fonti's remark then, but that is also something to consider for sure.

[silverspawn]

Who do you want to lynch now?

[J Reggie]

It's ok now, I'm here.

So there's a big wagon on me.  I don't really have a good defense, as I have been playing kind of scummy so as to not get NK'd.  But my vote on Faust was real, even though people didn't seem to like it.  I still think he's probably our best bet.  But I'm also scared of Cron and Cellovix because they're new and good.  Cron I think is the scummier of the two and a wagon on him could do us some good.  I don't want to lynch Haddock now.  I think he's town because of the way he defended me and other reasons. 

[faust]

It's ok now, I'm here.

So there's a big wagon on me.  I don't really have a good defense, as I have been playing kind of scummy so as to not get NK'd.  But my vote on Faust was real, even though people didn't seem to like it.  I still think he's probably our best bet.  But I'm also scared of Cron and Cellovix because they're new and good.  Cron I think is the scummier of the two and a wagon on him could do us some good.  I don't want to lynch Haddock now.  I think he's town because of the way he defended me and other reasons.

Now, I want to lynch J Reggie.

Vote: J Reggie

[faust]

Well there is Haddock's thing. But really this is just amazingly scummy.

[J Reggie]

It's ok now, I'm here.

So there's a big wagon on me.  I don't really have a good defense, as I have been playing kind of scummy so as to not get NK'd.  But my vote on Faust was real, even though people didn't seem to like it.  I still think he's probably our best bet.  But I'm also scared of Cron and Cellovix because they're new and good.  Cron I think is the scummier of the two and a wagon on him could do us some good.  I don't want to lynch Haddock now.  I think he's town because of the way he defended me and other reasons.

Now, I want to lynch J Reggie.

Vote: J Reggie

Why?  I don't want to get NK'd and not be able to use my power.  I know that's kind of a bad reason, but that's why.  I can try and play townier from now on, since me saying this is basically negating my chances to not get NK'd.

[faust]

Why?  I don't want to get NK'd and not be able to use my power.  I know that's kind of a bad reason, but that's why.  I can try and play townier from now on, since me saying this is basically negating my chances to not get NK'd.

Not getting lynched is way way way waaaaay more important than not getting nightkilled, and this is a super convenient way to dismiss all reads on you.

Walk me through each scummy post you made, and what your thinking was while posting, please.

[gkrieg13]

Vote Count 2.4


Cron (2): Haddock, J Reggie
Haddock (1): Cellovix
J Reggie (3): Cron, fontisian, faust
faust (1): silverspawn
iguanaiguana (1): chairs

Not Voting (3): teamlyle, Seprix, iguanaiguana

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.  Day 2 ends Thursday July 28, 9PM

[Cellovix]

I don't really know what to make of my strongest scum read protecting my second strongest scum read.  If they're both off the table, I don't have anyone I really want to lynch.  Maybe Faust or Fontisian, but they aren't actually scum reads, just not as strongly town as some others.

I think my inclination is to distrust it, because it's too similar to the Seprix/Teamlyle thing where Seprix softed that Lyle is town.  I could see it being a desperation play where Haddock/JReggie are scum, and they feel the need to swing for the fences, maybe.

If Haddock is town, JReggie is probably always town here unless Haddock is misinterpreting his information, which seems unlikely.

If Haddock is scum, JReggie is almost certainly scum, because it'd mean Haddock was trying to save one of his easiest mislynches.

The scenarios where they are opposite alignments seem pretty unlikely at first glance, regardless of which direction it is in.  Can someone logic check me there?

[Cellovix]

It's ok now, I'm here.

So there's a big wagon on me.  I don't really have a good defense, as I have been playing kind of scummy so as to not get NK'd.  But my vote on Faust was real, even though people didn't seem to like it.  I still think he's probably our best bet.  But I'm also scared of Cron and Cellovix because they're new and good.  Cron I think is the scummier of the two and a wagon on him could do us some good.  I don't want to lynch Haddock now.  I think he's town because of the way he defended me and other reasons. 

The last bit here feels really tacked on. If those "other reasons" are in the thread/behavioral, can you cite them?

[Cellovix]

Vote Count 2.4

Cron (1): Haddock
Haddock (1): Cellovix
Cron (1): J Reggie
J Reggie (3): Cron, fontisian, faust
faust (1): silverspawn
iguanaiguana (1): chairs

Not Voting (3): teamlyle, Seprix, iguanaiguana

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.  Day 2 ends Thursday July 28, 9PM

You have two separate Cron wagons.  Not sure if you missed an unvote, or if that should be a two person wagon).

[Cron]

Lol haddock. Either you're mafia or your logic makes zero sense

You say you hate the Faust wagon earlier today. The people on that wagon are j reggie (you're protecting him), seprix (your town read), fonti (a null read to you), and iguana.  So what specifically makes the Faust wagon scummy at the time? 

[Seprix]

vote: J Reggie

[teamlyle]

It's ok now, I'm here.

So there's a big wagon on me.  I don't really have a good defense, as I have been playing kind of scummy so as to not get NK'd.  But my vote on Faust was real, even though people didn't seem to like it.  I still think he's probably our best bet.  But I'm also scared of Cron and Cellovix because they're new and good.  Cron I think is the scummier of the two and a wagon on him could do us some good.  I don't want to lynch Haddock now.  I think he's town because of the way he defended me and other reasons. 

The last bit here feels really tacked on. If those "other reasons" are in the thread/behavioral, can you cite them?

Not sure if this is relevant but I'm gonna back up J Reggie here. I know about the "other reasons" and they're pretty good reasons, but since they're not saying them, I guess they know something I don't, so I won't say it either.

[Cron]

unvote and Vote: Haddock

Your accusation on Faust's wagon being scummy makes zero sense. Neither of your top scums were on it AND you believe j reggie and seprix are town AND admitted that you're null on Fonti. That's 3/4 on the wagon.

And I don't believe your soft on j reggie. If you're both town, why aren't mafia pushing me? 

[fontisian]

Vote: Haddock

Double shrug.

[Cellovix]

Are my posts invisible or something?  Should I get an avatar that stands out more?

[Cellovix]

Fontisian, I've tried to engage you multiple times this game and you haven't responded. Is this intentional, or are you just not reading the game super closely?

[Haddock]

unvote and Vote: Haddock

Your accusation on Faust's wagon being scummy makes zero sense. Neither of your top scums were on it AND you believe j reggie and seprix are town AND admitted that you're null on Fonti. That's 3/4 on the wagon.

And I don't believe your soft on j reggie. If you're both town, why aren't mafia pushing me?

I never said Faust's wagon was scummy. I said I didn't like it. As in I don't agree with it. I think faust is town. Read again if you like. It's pretty clear that I'm not saying it's a scummy wagon. Seriously your read on me is feeling so forced right now.

As for the last part, pay attention. You've now got me and lyle and reggie all agreeing on my soft. What, we're all scum? Check yourself. And I don't understand your final sentence.