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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D1)
« Reply #850 on: July 18, 2016, 01:14:37 pm »

Ah sure. It is impossible for some reason for scum to hammer accidentally.

Come on! I bet that is literally never happened on this forum. And how often did we have town hammering accidentally? A bunch of times since I started playing.

plus if I hammered accidentally, why would you even vote for me? Would that not make me null?

There seems to be a misunderstnading. I am not voting for you for the hammer.

There are more town than scum in any given game, so naturally town hammers accidentally more often. I remember a derphammer from scum!yuma in some game.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D1)
« Reply #851 on: July 18, 2016, 01:15:58 pm »

There' a thing called Occam's razor. You should try it some time. Yes I am guilty of using "for sure" when I should not have.

If being scum doubles the chance of receiving a redirecting role, then Jan was still less likely scum than town, due to the a priori chance of drawing town, if the claim was true. If it triples the chance it might have been fifty/fifty. Occam's razor does not apply.

True. But I think being scum makes receiving a redirecting role at least 10 times more likely.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #852 on: July 18, 2016, 01:18:21 pm »

Silver, are you certain faust would so adamantly oppose the Jan wagon as scum?

well no, I'm not certain. But he's done similar plays before. There was a game where he declared his scum buddy an IC and everyone ate it, and then he got the MVP.

Ah sure. It is impossible for some reason for scum to hammer accidentally.

Come on! I bet that is literally never happened on this forum. And how often did we have town hammering accidentally? A bunch of times since I started playing.

plus if I hammered accidentally, why would you even vote for me? Would that not make me null?

There seems to be a misunderstnading. I am not voting for you for the hammer.

There are more town than scum in any given game, so naturally town hammers accidentally more often. I remember a derphammer from scum!yuma in some game.

on a scum? scum on town, sure.

Meh, I guess scum on scum is unlikely in the first place.

still you'd be more aware.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #853 on: July 18, 2016, 01:28:05 pm »

It could also be fake. At the time I didn't see a reason to fake it, but if you believe it's as much of a town-tell as you apparently do, then that is a reaso for scum!you to fake it.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #854 on: July 18, 2016, 01:51:17 pm »

I didn't read the stuff, there was too much stuff
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D1)
« Reply #855 on: July 18, 2016, 03:05:11 pm »

Chairs did nothing at this point. I like his recent post though and wouldn't lynch.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #856 on: July 18, 2016, 03:19:10 pm »

I know I'm not participating as much as any of us would like. I'll just leave it at things have been unusually busy and shitty here and I how to be more active soon.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #857 on: July 18, 2016, 03:57:54 pm »

Vote: Haddock

Lots of towns, you aren't one. I thought you were extremely lurky day 1. I thought your scum read on me wasn't from a town perspective like SS's was on me. It felt more trying to get a lynch started, not organic. I think you've fallen off the map. Everyone that has posted today has given me a reason not to vote them. You're a big question mark.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #858 on: July 18, 2016, 04:17:11 pm »

Hey guys.

So I'm semi VLA, as Cron should know since I announced it.
But I'm following along and will try to contribute when I can. Phone posting from my hotel wifi basically.

My biggest thought is that this silver/faust thing feels like a townclash to me.  They were both on wagon, right? Yes. I'm giving them both town reads.

Much as I'd like to vote chairs for abysmal wagon position, I can't get a read off him and there must be somewhere better to go.

I still like vote: Cron I think.

I'll be as active as I can.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #859 on: July 18, 2016, 04:20:14 pm »

My biggest thought is that this silver/faust thing feels like a townclash to me.

Not to be a critic, but that's generally a scumtell when people say that.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #860 on: July 18, 2016, 04:25:13 pm »

My biggest thought is that this silver/faust thing feels like a townclash to me.

Not to be a critic, but that's generally a scumtell when people say that.
Is it? Huh.
I've said it as town several times and I think I said it as scum once?
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #861 on: July 18, 2016, 04:59:19 pm »

My biggest thought is that this silver/faust thing feels like a townclash to me.

Not to be a critic, but that's generally a scumtell when people say that.
Is it? Huh.
I've said it as town several times and I think I said it as scum once?

So twice now?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #862 on: July 18, 2016, 05:00:05 pm »

why is haddock scum, exactly?

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #863 on: July 18, 2016, 05:58:23 pm »

Because he's claiming this action is town on town

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #864 on: July 18, 2016, 06:13:31 pm »

I was more asking Crom. I got that this is your reason. I don't think it's a very good reason.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #865 on: July 18, 2016, 06:29:36 pm »

My biggest thought is that this silver/faust thing feels like a townclash to me.

Not to be a critic, but that's generally a scumtell when people say that.
Is it? Huh.
I've said it as town several times and I think I said it as scum once?

So twice now?

Yeah even though this seems like such a good burn it literally has no evidence behind it.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #866 on: July 18, 2016, 07:06:02 pm »

town on town action lol
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #867 on: July 18, 2016, 07:06:33 pm »

Lynching Seprix is very gratifying and I stand by my position of Vote: Seprix with a pronounced Rofl
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #868 on: July 18, 2016, 07:12:13 pm »

Lynching Seprix is very gratifying and I stand by my position of Vote: Seprix with a pronounced Rofl

Are you drunk, high, or both? You are not playing with the usual IguanaIguana trademarked brand of quality that I have come to expect. I demand a refund. Also, your vote didn't count.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D1)
« Reply #869 on: July 18, 2016, 07:15:55 pm »

uh Vote: Seprix

rofl

is still my current vote
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #870 on: July 18, 2016, 07:16:23 pm »

and I'm none of that, I'm Pokemon Go level 17, no time to do real computer stuff.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #871 on: July 18, 2016, 07:50:03 pm »

Lol haddock comes on 20 minutes after I call him out. Cmon.... The dude is howling. His push on me is trash, looking for a lynch not hunting scum. Didn't do anything day 1 afterwards. His push today is pure OMGUS. "Oh I would vote chairs but I'm gonna vote Cron"

Come at me haddock. Not this weak crap. If you think I'm mafia, bury me.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #872 on: July 18, 2016, 09:31:32 pm »

Going to do a bit of re-reading to see what I can make from Jan interactions, I think.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #873 on: July 18, 2016, 09:57:26 pm »

Seprix is tentatively town.

I don't really understand some of his play, but being a counterwagon to Jan + voting for him early on and not really wavering on it looks pretty good for him.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #874 on: July 18, 2016, 10:00:41 pm »

Screw it.

Jan is scum. Jan is capable of choosing a player and redirecting all actions taken on that player to a second player also of his choosing. I've been thinking hard about this role and I can't imagine it being a town role. So here we go. If Jan lies he incriminates himself, so we'll see.
Vote: Jan YOLO

Wait a second. Sorry if I missed something but how do you know that??

I think teamlyle is pretty strongly town for his derp tell at the start of game, but this looks bad, and has me reconsidering.
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