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[faust]

Well one of RR and Jan is scum for sure.

How do we know this? All we know is both of their roles (actually neither of them are confirmed; RR has just claimed both of them), which could conceivably be either scum roles or town roles. What if they're both town? Then we waste two days lynching town and not getting information out of anyone else. This whole claiming thing has been fun but has potentially given scum more info than they already had.

I cannot see the role Jan supposedly has being a scum role. I might be somehow convinced if he gives a really satisfying flavor justification, but right now I don't see it.

[J Reggie]

Well one of RR and Jan is scum for sure.

How do we know this? All we know is both of their roles (actually neither of them are confirmed; RR has just claimed both of them), which could conceivably be either scum roles or town roles. What if they're both town? Then we waste two days lynching town and not getting information out of anyone else. This whole claiming thing has been fun but has potentially given scum more info than they already had.

I cannot see the role Jan supposedly has being a scum role. I might be somehow convinced if he gives a really satisfying flavor justification, but right now I don't see it.

Do you mean a town role? Because I can see it being a scum role for sure. It creates confusion. But I can also see RR's role being a scum role.

[Roadrunner7671]

I just had an epiphany. Of course we can also get RR's role to be confirmed by killing him as well. Duh! Okay, I think I understand why people were upset with me.

If I beat you at Dominion we don't lynch me okay?

Bring it on.

I saw this and if you're up for it, name a date and time.

[faust]

Well one of RR and Jan is scum for sure.

How do we know this? All we know is both of their roles (actually neither of them are confirmed; RR has just claimed both of them), which could conceivably be either scum roles or town roles. What if they're both town? Then we waste two days lynching town and not getting information out of anyone else. This whole claiming thing has been fun but has potentially given scum more info than they already had.

I cannot see the role Jan supposedly has being a scum role. I might be somehow convinced if he gives a really satisfying flavor justification, but right now I don't see it.

Do you mean a town role? Because I can see it being a scum role for sure. It creates confusion. But I can also see RR's role being a scum role.

Yes, of course that should be scum. I agree that RR's role makes sense for scum too; the question is whether the flavor fits this.

[faust]

Town. I mean town! Dammit.

[J Reggie]

Town. I mean town! Dammit.

If I were Awaclus, I'd probably say this was a Freudian slip. 

[chairs]

this is all sorts of woo.

[fontisian]

After RR's stuff last game, I do not trust his pr claim, but think it makes him town.

So, like, let's kill Seprix.

[Roadrunner7671]

After RR's stuff last game, I do not trust his pr claim, but think it makes him town.

So, like, let's kill Seprix.

My PR claim can be confirmed by Jan but whatever

[teamlyle]

I just realized something else. RR has claimed rolecop. We've been theorising that scum has the power to steal people's powers when they kill. WE DON'T WANT SCUM TO HAVE THIS POWERFUL OF A ROLECOP POWER. Therefore, I propose that we lynch RR now. If he flips town rolecop, we lynch Jan tomorrow. If he flips scum or not a rolecop, we leave Jan alone. This way, we get the info we need without giving scum the rolecop power.

vote: RR. What do people think?

I agree. Sorry RR!

Vote: Roadrunner

You are too easily swayed by emotional appeals. Don't you think killing RR is a very very bad idea!?
[/quote]

Well, it's a risk. I'd say that we'd much rather lynch an innocent RR than let RR use this ability as scum.

[Roadrunner7671]

I say we lynch Jan. I am not scum.

[Jan]

Woohoo ..

I am absolutly not caught up but what the fuck is going on?

Champs game will go into nightphase in like 5 hours. I will take a look at this game then.

In the meantime I would like the people voting on me to say why without saying that I am not active enough right now (because we can agree that that is nothing more than a sad excuse for pushing an easy misslynch on a fucking player who is not defending himself at the time).

So if you have anything close to balls come at me with anything but your fucked up excuses.

/Out until later.

[Roadrunner7671]

Jan hasn't read the thread

[Jan]

No shit I haven't. I just scimmed over a few bits and can confirm that I am a busdriver role .. Good fucking job at outting that shit.

Like this is not only one of the best roles it is also a town role.

Here check the fucking wiki :
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

Why would you not have checked the fucking wiki in the first place`? It would have told you things like :
"Bus Driver has been seen as each alignment and historically is a pro-Town role"
or
"As a pro-Town power role, Bus Driver is similar to a Doctor in that it can prevent a player from being killed if the Bus Driver targets them each Night"

Go ahead kill the person with the best fucking role in the god damn game. I mean you did it last game with your genius idea of the CfD on awaclus instead of lynching the outted scum that I tried to kill all day.

Will be back tonight. I basically only read roadrunners reveal by now which revealed so much about the state of his mind to me.

If you want to speedlynch me in the meantime. Go ahead.

[Seprix]

As a pro-Town power role, Bus Driver is similar to a Doctor in that it can prevent a player from being killed if the Bus Driver targets them each Night. However, it does not stop the kill on its own, so it is not as much of a disadvantage to scum if used in this way. With that said, it is far more likely that the Bus Driver will hurt the other power roles as their actions get unexpectedly redirected by the Bus Driver's choices. Thus, it is not considered a great power role.

If using a pro-Town Bus Driver, it is important to consider how the Bus Driver can cause broken combinations. In particular, including a Bulletproof in the game can allow a Bus Driver to functionally become a Doctor.

As an anti-Town power role, Bus Driver is rather potent.

Quit lying.

[Seprix]

Jan needs to die.

[Roadrunner7671]

I've never seen a town bus driver!

And I thought Bus Driver switched players A and B, not sent all actions from Player A onto Player B

[Roadrunner7671]

Jan needs to die.

[J Reggie]

vote: Seprix.  I think RR and Jan are both town, and RR just made an unfortunate blunder. Seprix's reaction to all this is scummy.

[Roadrunner7671]

I agree he's scummy but being a bus driver is also scummy!

[Seprix]

vote: Seprix.  I think RR and Jan are both town, and RR just made an unfortunate blunder. Seprix's reaction to all this is scummy.

Scum team is J Reggie and Jan. Dunno who the third is. What an easy game!

[Jan]

I don't give a single fuck about what you think.

I am town. You missed out on the most important part of my role btw.

I also get a copy of the results of anyone targeting the player (cop/tracks/watches etc)

This is basically a fucking pimped out role and you are killing me.

Oh btw his claim is almost always town. Unless the mod removed one of the most important characters in the game to give the fake claim to the most important villian of the series (sylar) who basically has the same power but for him it includes the ability/posibility to kill the people when leeching their power.

Why didn't you claim my full power RR?

[Roadrunner7671]

I didn't receive your full power. Only the active role that I get to copy.
Unvote

I screwed up I think 

[Seprix]

Jan is Sylar then. Got it.

[Jan]

You can just kill me, but kill Seprix tomorrow for his shitshow push here.

The good thing is that I am living on borrowed time anyway because both me and RR will just die in the night now.

ggwp