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[Awaclus]

Pretty sure ADK is town.

[silverspawn]

Pretty sure ADK is town.

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[gkrieg13]

I think haddock is town here

[silverspawn]

I think haddock is town here

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[silverspawn]

Funny coincidence that you have me as scummy no the first time ever that I'm scumreading you. I don't think OMGUS is a town trait for you.

[gkrieg13]

Funny coincidence that you have me as scummy no the first time ever that I'm scumreading you. I don't think OMGUS is a town trait for you.

He actually didn't OMGUS in desperation mafia and that was a game where he should have.

He feels like a continuation of himself in that game here, hence the towniest from me

[J Reggie]

I don't know how free I'll be today, but quickly responding to stuff and giving my 2 cents:

Let me just say, I feel really good about our chances here, unless chairs was scum. Yuma is a really good player and we didn't have the night kill. We should be able to find these scum with no problem.

Eww.  This is the first outright scummy thing J Reggie has said.  Why the sudden change of tone, Reggie?

Yeah, everyone seemed to find this post scummy. I guess I can see the case for it being a lame attempt for town cred.

I'm finding Haddock's reads list townie, and I totally agree with vote: ss. Is that L-something?

I really don't understand ss's play here. He also posted a meme to defend me? That was really weird.

I'm not sure how I feel about ii now. I mean, I had a scum read on him all of yesterday and still think this could be a weird strategy to get pressure off him, but I do like this post:

The problem is that Roadrunner could have just dropped you into mafia nightchat at night and said "Hey, Yuma is replacing Chairs now" and then at the beginning of the day told everyone "Hey everyone, Yuma is replacing Chairs!" We don't know when he actually subbed you in. You may know, and therefore be making the fallacy of assuming that the rest of us know too. That would be townie. Or you could just be lying scum. It's null. It's not a point at all.

So I'll have to start completely from square one with him.

Why are people voting for Yuma and gkrieg?

[Awaclus]

Why are people voting for Yuma and gkrieg?

Why shouldn't people be voting for yuma and gkrieg?

[J Reggie]

I think it's L-2 on ss. Ss please explain your case on haddock better. Right now it feels pretty lazy, and you're the only one going after him.

Why are people voting for Yuma and gkrieg?

Why shouldn't people be voting for yuma and gkrieg?

I think people should have reasons to vote for people, not need reasons not to vote for them.

Also, I'm worried that Yuma's abandoned us.

[J Reggie]

OK pps is also voting haddock, and sheeping ss seems super weird here. But that's not a scum tell for pps, I don't think.

[Haddock]

Promised reread/case-making imminent.

Right now, though, can't let this pass:

Funny coincidence that you have me as scummy no the first time ever that I'm scumreading you. I don't think OMGUS is a town trait for you.

I mean this is just bollocks.  I made a case on you yesterday.  It was a bit shaky, admittedly.  But it was there.  So no, you don't get to accuse me of OMGUS here.

[pingpongsam]

OK pps is also voting haddock, and sheeping ss seems super weird here. But that's not a scum tell for pps, I don't think.

You call it sheeting while I call it picking up where I left off yesterday. I mean, I could vote Joseph if that makes you feel better.

But, really, one of us is the obvscum, just no need to go straight to that vote just yet.

[Awaclus]

I think people should have reasons to vote for people, not need reasons not to vote for them.

You have it the wrong way round. You need reasons why others shouldn't vote for you, not reasons why you should vote others. This follows naturally from the mechanics of the game (you can just decide to cast a vote on anyone and nothing can prevent you from doing that, but you can't just decide to uncast votes that other people have cast on you, therefore you need to convince them to do so if you want it to happen).

[A Drowned Kernel]

vote: ss that's l-1 or something right?

[A Drowned Kernel]

Out maybe not I misread Regis post

[Haddock]

So gkrieg actually reads mostly towny on D1.  He pushes e, who is essentially conf!town now.  But I don't think that's a scumtell, the case on e was pretty decent.
The fakehammer is doing a lot of work for him, I just don't see scum doing that.  He's maybe mildly scummy so far today.  Overall mild town.

I get scummy vibes off of ADK.  He throws around some super lazy votes.  And I disagree with many many of his reads - Seprix, Joseph, Awa.  I know disagreement=/= scumminess, but still, it's hard to shake.  So, eh.  He's a bit scummy, but not the worst ever.  e, can you elaborate on what you saw as ADK's scum narrative?

chairs's contributions are nonexistent, but yuma is towny.

PPE 3. Sigh.  Typical Awaclus.
And yeah I think that's L-1.  Think I'll write up a case anyway.

[J Reggie]

Nope, I counted wrong. It's only L-2.

[Haddock]

Right no it's L-2 I think actually.

can we get a vote count?

PPE. Great minds.

[silverspawn]

Unofficial Vote Count:

Haddock (2): silverspawn, pingpongsam
gkrieg13 (1): iguanaiguana
Joseph2302 (2): chairs, Awaclus
silverspawn (4): gkrieg13, Haddock, J Reggie, A Drowned Kernel
e (1): Egork
A Drowned Kernel (1): e
Egork (2): Joseph2302, Seprix

[J Reggie]

OK pps is also voting haddock, and sheeping ss seems super weird here. But that's not a scum tell for pps, I don't think.

You call it sheeting while I call it picking up where I left off yesterday. I mean, I could vote Joseph if that makes you feel better.

But, really, one of us is the obvscum, just no need to go straight to that vote just yet.

Voting Joseph would not be better, since he's townie too. Really, why is everyone still hung up on Joseph?

If you think someone is obvscum, you should definitely state it.

How is Awaclus so good at being wrong?

[silverspawn]

we are 12 so we need 7. It's only L-3

[J Reggie]

Unofficial Vote Count:

Haddock (2): silverspawn, pingpongsam
gkrieg13 (1): iguanaiguana
Joseph2302 (2): chairs, Awaclus
silverspawn (4): gkrieg13, Haddock, J Reggie, A Drowned Kernel
e (1): Egork
A Drowned Kernel (1): e
Egork (2): Joseph2302, Seprix

How can chairs and EgorK be voting if they're out of the game?

[silverspawn]

Voting Joseph would not be better, since he's townie too.

Repeating it doesn't make it true. He's not a high priority, but certainly not towny.

[silverspawn]

How can chairs and EgorK be voting if they're out of the game?

err yes. Apologies.

Corrected:

Haddock (2): silverspawn, pingpongsam
gkrieg13 (1): iguanaiguana
Joseph2302 (1): Awaclus
silverspawn (4): gkrieg13, Haddock, J Reggie, A Drowned Kernel
A Drowned Kernel (1): e
Egork (2): Joseph2302, Seprix

Whoever yuma is voting for (1): yuma

I think yuma has effectively left the game, so his vote probably doesn't matter.

[silverspawn]

ss please explain your case on haddock better.

Rejected. I've made the case. Look it up. Why are you holding me to a standard that you aren't holding anyone else too, including yourself?