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[faust]

Well, this is disgusting.

What is? You didn't really expect to get elected, did you?

Sure I did. You were the only one voicing dissent.

Well we certainly need more interactions before deciding. Your govenment failing provides us with these interactions.

[faust]

An intriguing thing: We have chairs, who voiced his support of the government clearly, plus two people who were part of the government. That's 3 votes right there. With 4 votes needed, fascists would only have had to throw in one more vote to make it pass, and they know that.

So that means probably either 2 fascists are in Seprix/Hydrad/chairs, or no fascists were in the proposed government. I find the latter more likely... which may make me want to support Hydrad over gkrieg for president.

Disclaimer: there can be reasons for fascists to be in the government and the government failing anyway. Especially chancellor is not the most powerful role, so Seprix is actually townier from this than Hydrad. But we cannot have a Seprix government anymore. Oh well.

[Seprix]

Well, this is disgusting.

What is? You didn't really expect to get elected, did you?

Sure I did. You were the only one voicing dissent.

Well we certainly need more interactions before deciding. Your government failing provides us with these interactions.

Well, not really. it will in the long run, but certainly not right now.

[Hydrad]

ok so. letsa go.

Nominate: ghost

yayy

[ghostofmars]

More or less as expected, the government fails. Interestingly, Hydrad approved, even though he is president now and president is a much more important role than chancellor this early in the game.

Seprix is a bit more likely to be liberal now, though I wouldn't go as far as faust and extend this to the people voting for the government. We can reassess the votes, once we know a bit more.

[chairs]

I'm much more blah about this government since it no longer gives me hammah powah.

[Tables]

Only need Hydrad's vote

Also when voting please make it clear which proposal you are voting for, e.g. put the round number or president/chancellor in the PM somewhere.

[Hydrad]

OH I have to vote still? Sorry

[Tables]

Round 2

President: Hydrad
Chancellor: Ghostofmars

Yes: Seprix, Hydrad, Gkrieg13, ghostofmars
No: Chairs, Silverspawn, faust

The government passes. Law cards have been sent to Hydrad

Game State

Turn Order, current President or candidate in bold, current Chancellor or candidate in italic:

Seprix
Hydrad
Gkrieg13
Chairs
ghostofmars
Silverspawn
faust

Liberal Policies enacted: 0
Fascist Policies enacted: 0
Next Executive Power: None
Recent Failed Governments: 1

Deck: 17 cards
Discard: 0 cards

Deck and discard contain (total): 11 Fascist, 6 Liberal

Silence should be maintained until a law is passed

[Tables]

Hydrad draws three cards and discards one.

ghostofmars discards one by CO.

The revealed card is a Liberal policy

Game State

Turn Order, current President or candidate in bold, current Chancellor or candidate in italic:

Seprix
Hydrad
Gkrieg13
Chairs
ghostofmars
Silverspawn
faust

Liberal Policies enacted: 1
Fascist Policies enacted: 0
Next Executive Power: None
Recent Failed Governments: 0

Deck: 14 cards
Discard: 2 cards

Deck and discard contain (total): 11 Fascist, 5 Liberal

Gkrieg13 is now the current president candidate

[Hydrad]

Progress! 

Also can ghost be president now? I didn't think about this.

[gkrieg13]

Sweet!

nominate: ss

Also what did you guys see?

[Hydrad]

I had LLF. Discarded F

[Tables]

Progress! 

Also can ghost be president now? I didn't think about this.

Yes. You and ghost cannot be nominated as Chancellor until another policy is enacted, but anyone can be President once it passes around to them.

[faust]

Sweet!

nominate: ss

Also what did you guys see?

Why would you nominate someone who opposed the government that passed a liberal law?

[gkrieg13]

Sweet!

nominate: ss

Also what did you guys see?

Why would you nominate someone who opposed the government that passed a liberal law?

I guess I went without looking. I didn't realize so many people shot down the government.

[chairs]

1 policy down... 5 to go? I don't remember how many we need to make happen to win

[faust]

Sweet!

nominate: ss

Also what did you guys see?

Why would you nominate someone who opposed the government that passed a liberal law?

I guess I went without looking. I didn't realize so many people shot down the government.

...

[Seprix]

Sweet!

nominate: ss

Also what did you guys see?

Why would you nominate someone who opposed the government that passed a liberal law?

I guess I went without looking. I didn't realize so many people shot down the government.

This was such a whiff, I'm almost willing to give Lib points...?

[Seprix]

Chairs, Faust, SS look sorta bad, but there is no way all three of them are Fascist. I'd wager 1 to 2, probably 1 are Fascist. Hydrad discarded the one Fascist card (so he says), but it's entirely possible he had nothing but Lib cards, not to mention enacting a Fascist card this early almost never would look good.

[Seprix]

I've never played this game, so maybe there's something wrong with my reasoning. Would there be a good scenario for Libs to enact Fascist policy this early?

[Hydrad]

Chairs, Faust, SS look sorta bad, but there is no way all three of them are Fascist. I'd wager 1 to 2, probably 1 are Fascist. Hydrad discarded the one Fascist card (so he says), but it's entirely possible he had nothing but Lib cards, not to mention enacting a Fascist card this early almost never would look good.

You would think so. But last game fascists totally got 2 Fs right away and in the end tables was considered a top town read still.

[faust]

Chairs, Faust, SS look sorta bad, but there is no way all three of them are Fascist. I'd wager 1 to 2, probably 1 are Fascist. Hydrad discarded the one Fascist card (so he says), but it's entirely possible he had nothing but Lib cards, not to mention enacting a Fascist card this early almost never would look good.

Well in case of fascist!Hydrad/liberal!ghost, it's perfectly reasonable for Hydrad to discard a fascist policy because ghost will enact a liberal one anyway, and 2 L looks better on Hydrad.

[faust]

I've never played this game, so maybe there's something wrong with my reasoning. Would there be a good scenario for Libs to enact Fascist policy this early?

No, it's basically never a good idea. Maybe if you're president and really want to execute someone, but even that is a stretch. It's hard enough to get 5 liberal policies in place without fascist interference because there are much more fascist ones.

[Hydrad]

Chairs, Faust, SS look sorta bad, but there is no way all three of them are Fascist. I'd wager 1 to 2, probably 1 are Fascist. Hydrad discarded the one Fascist card (so he says), but it's entirely possible he had nothing but Lib cards, not to mention enacting a Fascist card this early almost never would look good.

Well in case of fascist!Hydrad/liberal!ghost, it's perfectly reasonable for Hydrad to discard a fascist policy because ghost will enact a liberal one anyway, and 2 L looks better on Hydrad.

I was considering giving him LF to see what he would choose. But then I realized even if he picked F it's not like mafia where we can trade 1 for 1 that easily.