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Author Topic: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!  (Read 179837 times)

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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2025 on: April 19, 2016, 02:39:49 pm »

What did people think of the setup? Interesting? Boring? Unbalanced? Is the PGO power pointless? I think scum got pretty lucky with their spread, they knew the whole setup from the start.

MVP is tough, Hydrad and scott both played very solid games. I'm leaning Hydrad but would be interested in hearing the scum team's thoughts.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2026 on: April 19, 2016, 02:40:11 pm »

I'm really glad this is over because I was getting really stressed.  I really didn't want to bus Hydrad, but I was pretty much going to have to because of PoE...I was already fairly committed to a town read on EgorK, and I don't think I could have possibly argued for a faust/Teproc scum team, which would leave Hydrad on any other possible scum team.

I started feeling bad for Teproc later on...a lot of my frustration was legitimate.  I think we both just saw everything in this game very differently.  Sorry if I said anything insulting or condescending.

I think this is a really cool set-up.  There are a lot of powers that all have the potential to be amazing, but are extremely difficult to use.  Like early on, I was terrified of the roleblockers, because I thought if we get blocked, not only does that catch scum, but all three RB's are then cleared as town.  That's sort of an exaggeration, but it was still scary.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2027 on: April 19, 2016, 02:41:40 pm »

I definitely thought that as the only all-town neighborhood the Roleblockers were going to have a much larger effect on this game but they ended up pretty neutered.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2028 on: April 19, 2016, 02:43:58 pm »

Oh, and to answer the question at the end of the scum QT, no I would not consider attempting a kill and being blocked as a "no-kill". My ruling was to prevent the possibility of a stalemate, which the Roleblocker situation would not be.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2029 on: April 19, 2016, 02:47:13 pm »

I feel like for me at first I thought the PR's were weak for town.

But the closer to the end of the game you get the stronger the PR's seem to become. As scum can never really get rid of powers and town will always be left with some at the end of the game. So in a way its like all we did for kills and lynches was hit VT's every day unless we killed a whole neighborhood.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2030 on: April 19, 2016, 02:50:25 pm »

Well... that wasn't what I expected at all.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2031 on: April 19, 2016, 02:50:59 pm »

Yay!  Go team!

Didn't you win either way?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2032 on: April 19, 2016, 02:52:00 pm »

Yay!  Go team!

Didn't you win either way?

ADK said only a scum win would count for me at this point
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2033 on: April 19, 2016, 02:52:33 pm »

I should have pushed Limetime more D2.  But, well stuff.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2034 on: April 19, 2016, 02:53:55 pm »

Yay!  Go team!

Didn't you win either way?

ADK said only a scum win would count for me at this point

Fair enough, you were a pretty scummy IC
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2035 on: April 19, 2016, 02:54:54 pm »

Yay!  Go team!

Didn't you win either way?

ADK said only a scum win would count for me at this point

Fair enough, you were a pretty scummy IC

ya I don't really like being IC
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2036 on: April 19, 2016, 02:56:39 pm »

I guess I really cannot read Teproc.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2037 on: April 19, 2016, 02:57:27 pm »

I think the Hydrad-not-getting-quickhammered-point should have made a bigger impact, though.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2038 on: April 19, 2016, 02:57:47 pm »

Or maybe not, since it only holds if Faust is town.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2039 on: April 19, 2016, 03:00:21 pm »

I think the Hydrad-not-getting-quickhammered-point should have made a bigger impact, though.

Right. But I didn't want to point it out to much because then it would turn into me vs faust pretty much. And I was hoping faust might turn onto teproc at somepoint still.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2040 on: April 19, 2016, 03:04:57 pm »

I wonder where things would have gone if Teproc hadn't voted... scott would have had to take a stance at some point, and arguing against Hydrad didn't really make sense for him.

But I don't know if I could have convinced myself to not lynch Teproc D4, even if he successfully blocked.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2041 on: April 19, 2016, 03:06:02 pm »

Oh, and to answer the question at the end of the scum QT, no I would not consider attempting a kill and being blocked as a "no-kill". My ruling was to prevent the possibility of a stalemate, which the Roleblocker situation would not be.

But that would have been a stalemate too if Teproc was scum: he could just always block his partner.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2042 on: April 19, 2016, 03:07:21 pm »

Going by the speccy, I really feel like I'm playing mafia with a built-in timer: I have to lynch scum quickly enough or everyone automatically assumes that I am scum.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Three
« Reply #2043 on: April 19, 2016, 03:09:50 pm »

Toss a Hydrad in there, so

{Limtetime/Gkrieg, SS, SP, Hydrad}

no ordering there.

Why don't I listen to myself!  Or, why didn't I think this earlier.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2044 on: April 19, 2016, 03:10:55 pm »

Going by the speccy, I really feel like I'm playing mafia with a built-in timer: I have to lynch scum quickly enough or everyone automatically assumes that I am scum.

Athletes at the top of their profession have the same problem.  Have to do amazing things, have to keep winning, or else they're just one-trick ponies. 
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2045 on: April 19, 2016, 03:12:58 pm »

Mafia 78 (Mar. 7, – Apr. 19, 2016)
Insomnia Mafia by A Drowned Kernel (MVP:)

Player list (post count): Roadrunner 7671 (127), gkrieg13- Innocent Child (72), faust (392), silverspawn (198), yuma (206), 2,71828... (94), Hydrad- Mafia Goon (75), EgorK (51), Joseph2302 (47), Limetime- Mafia Goon (14), replaced by gkrieg13 (72), Teproc (320), Witherweaver (222), scott_pilgrim- Mafia Goon (87)
Total posts: 2011 (154.69 per player)

D1 Mislynch: Joseph2302 (VT) by faust, EgorK, silverspawn, 2.71828, scott_piglrim, Hydrad, Teproc
N1 Kill: gkrieg13 (Innocent Child)
D2 Mislynch: Roadrunner7671 (VT) by silverspawn, EgorK, gkrieg13, 2.71828, Teproc, Hydrad
N2 Kill: yuma (VT)
D3 Correct Lynch: gkrieg13 (Mafia Goon) by faust, EgorK, Hydrad, Teproc, Witherweaver
N3 Kill: 2.71828...
D4 Mislynch: silverspawn (VT) by faust, Hydrad, Witherweaver, Teproc 
N4 Kill: Witherweaver (VT)
D5 Mislynch: faust (VT) by Teproc, Hydrad, scott_pilgrim
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2046 on: April 19, 2016, 03:14:52 pm »

Going by the speccy, I really feel like I'm playing mafia with a built-in timer: I have to lynch scum quickly enough or everyone automatically assumes that I am scum.

Lose a few more games like this one and you may not have that problem anymore!
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2047 on: April 19, 2016, 03:16:23 pm »

Going by the speccy, I really feel like I'm playing mafia with a built-in timer: I have to lynch scum quickly enough or everyone automatically assumes that I am scum.

Lose a few more games like this one and you may not have that problem anymore!

Well, now I'll just be gone until everyone has forgotten about me!
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2048 on: April 19, 2016, 03:17:25 pm »

Going by the speccy, I really feel like I'm playing mafia with a built-in timer: I have to lynch scum quickly enough or everyone automatically assumes that I am scum.

Or maybe, just maybe it's because you played insanely scummy this game. But you know, you can keep on thinking it's just the evil fds meta.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!
« Reply #2049 on: April 19, 2016, 03:25:16 pm »

At least Teproc was town.
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