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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1650 on: April 21, 2016, 12:32:30 pm »

Well, was worth a try.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1651 on: April 21, 2016, 06:11:48 pm »

Worth noting about the walker thing: Yuma flipped as a walker without having does first when we lynched him the first time, so it is possible that people change alignment as soon as they flip.

I'm still thinking Lynch sir Martin though. He's given pretty much zero reads all game, which is pretty consistent with how I think an SK plays. Even when I just asked him point blank who he thought scum was his answer didn't indicate anyone in particular.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1652 on: April 21, 2016, 06:13:45 pm »

And I don't think I buy him killing in order to join the group. Why would he start doing that on the first day? And if he was a survivor winning with the group isn't easier, it limits his options.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1653 on: April 22, 2016, 12:52:24 am »

Okay, so I've been turning this over in my head all day, and I've come to a rather cynical conclusion.

I was originally thinking of this in terms of Sir Martin being a SK vs. there being a fourth Other, but now I'm thinking in terms of someone being bit. First off, if someone's bit, a reread isn't going to help with that, since they would have been bit last night.

IF there are no more others, there are two possibilities: Sir Martin is an SK, or there is a Walker/player who will become a Walker. Both of these things could actually be true, but that's unimportant to my conclusion.

If the Amph, WW and I lynch Sir Martin and there's no Walkers, then we all win as Group members. If we lynch him and there is a Walker, we would all (presumably) become Walkers eventually, and still win, just as Walkers. So unless we think there's another Other, lynching Sir Martin would guarantee the three of us victory.

The flip side of this is, if we lynch anyone other than Sir Martin today, then Walkers are guaranteed to lose; he's biteproof (I don't know why he would lie about that) and there won't be the numbers to lynch him after today, so he'll just kill any Walkers with impunity. The best hope for a Group member in that scenaior would to be to hope that Sir Martin was telling the truth about becoming a Group member and to make sure that they died before they converted. Luckily for me, I still have my sacrifice ability: if we do end up lynching WW or Amph, I can make myself the lynch and make sure I die as a member of the Group. If Sir Martin is telling the truth, I'll be assured victory; if he isn't, then I'll have lost anyway because we didn't lynch him.

So unless someone can convince me that either WW or Amph is an Other (and I'll be doing my own reread to this end) then basically the only lynch options today are Sir Martin and me. And I still think that "Sir Martin is a SK" is the most plausible scenario, so I'll keep my vote there for now.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1654 on: April 22, 2016, 06:31:07 am »

And I don't think I buy him killing in order to join the group. Why would he start doing that on the first day? And if he was a survivor winning with the group isn't easier, it limits his options.
I thought I'd kill EFHW, she'd be the last scum, and we'd win today.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1655 on: April 22, 2016, 06:32:58 am »

ADK, people who get lynched become walkers. So if you lynch me I'll become a walker and you'll have to deal with me then.
And I don't know what you're saying- you think I've been bit but you don't think I'm lying about being biteproof?
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1656 on: April 22, 2016, 08:51:19 am »

I don't think you've been bit, but you're arguing that someone has. What is your suggested course of action?

And Hydrad didn't become a Walker, so I think people do have to be bit before they turn.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Third Twilight)
« Reply #1657 on: April 22, 2016, 05:16:22 pm »

Vote Count 4.1:

SirMartin (1): A Drowned Kernel

Not Voting (3): Ampharos, SirMartin, Witherweaver

With 4 alive, it will take 3 to lynch.

No Group Abilities were triggered.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1658 on: April 22, 2016, 05:20:01 pm »

Posting to check in; I haven't gotten a chance to do other rereads yet.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1659 on: April 22, 2016, 05:59:29 pm »

Sir Martin takes about five minutes, he's had astonishingly little content.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1660 on: April 22, 2016, 06:06:25 pm »

Okay, I'll do it tonight.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The First Day)
« Reply #1661 on: April 23, 2016, 09:27:10 am »

Also, I know the role name of a player that is likely town-aligned. Just sayin'.
As do I.

Was this a joke, or did you know someone else's role?
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The First Day)
« Reply #1662 on: April 23, 2016, 09:40:07 am »

Not many posts.

Well, I forgot how time consuming Forum Mafia is. I'm on a phone but I have a good block of time to contribute.

Says he'll contribute, doesn't really contribute that much.  What follows:

So I think the phrase 'vigs gonna vig' is an excellent phrase to apply here.

If we have the options, to load, split up and check out the perimeter, why not do so? It's fun!

It seems like scum hunting isn't a priority, that needs to change. Come on, it's mafia! We gotta take the mafia down!
While I was reading a new reply had been posted, but I do not wish to review my current post.

Interesting pointing out vigs, since he plans to claim vig.  Also, I had thought Amph was the one complaining about not scum hunting all game, but Sir Martin brought it up way early.  Scummy.  Following:

And you can call me scummy, but all this talk about our group actions is really scummy. They probably have a marginal impact on the game, this isn't what mafia is about. We need to ignore all the shiny distractions and lynch the scums.

discouraging us from discussing the setup makes no sense
I'm not doing that, I'm just encouraging scum hunting as a priority.

Talks about scum hunting, but he hasn't said anything not setup related. 

Votes for split up.   He was on patrol too, so no posts during that time. Comes back, jokes about Silverspawn dying. 

First point he makes regarding players:

(Badly) Pranked  :P

Okay. Now how about some serious contributions?
We can try that. There was no mod talk during our patrol check, but we could communicate in a QT.

Yuma getting bit is bad, but I think voting for 2.7 is lame. Would he have claimed something suspicious then bitten Yuma? I think not.
Ppe

Of note that it's on the defensive side. 

Mentions Chairs didn't talk much:

So I don't have long, but I'll point out that chsirs didn't talk very much when we were on patrol.

Par the course for Chairs, but Sir Martin may not have known this.

I'm here now! I think I got prodded.

I don't have time for a full reread but I will point out that I would rather no lynch. This is RMM and no one seems to have scumreads on anyone.

You're part of the game too!  You can have scumreads~

I'd rather not become the default lynch so I'm considering claiming.

Feels pressure to claim... because he has three votes on him.  I guess he belongs to the Ichi school of Mafia claiming.

I think he actually lost his vote from not posting; pretty sure I did that day too.  Proposes lynching Faust; Yuma ends up getting lynched.

That's Day 1.

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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1663 on: April 23, 2016, 09:40:50 am »

Sir Martin, did you ever say why you killed Haddock?
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1664 on: April 23, 2016, 09:43:09 am »

Day 2:

Says not bit, talks about group abilities.

I think not triggering group powers is fine. We don't really need more bullets, it appears checking the perimeter is unhelpful and makes a lynch unlikely and splitting up is still scary for...some reason?

I guess I'm scummy for it, but I still think we should've split up today.

Says he's scummy for the hundredth time. 

Talks about the Faust/e situation, and:

Why can't Faust kill e next Dawn then commit suicide at a later date? That way we can try to lynch someone scummy today.

Because if he's bit he might not make it more then a day
We're going to be want to find out though right? It we policy lynch everyone who gets bit we'll just lose.

Weird thing to say.  What were you thinking here?

Basically nothing else for Day 2. 

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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1665 on: April 23, 2016, 09:47:05 am »

Day 3:

Locks Faust, explains why he wanted to later:

I'm from a phone but I will try to tell you why all I did was lock him.

He said he was an other and he couldn't bite people. I figured one of those was a lie.

If one of those was a lie, there would be no point in keeping him around.

If he could bite people and we let him live we'd just be stupid.

If he wasn't an other and we let him live there would be no point. It would be like keeping around a survivor who wanted to kill the town.

Okay with mass claiming, claims vig:

All I feel compelled to say is that I'm the vig and yes, I have a sword.

Giving away more than that really doesn't do much for the town but it would help others.

Who's next?

Hammers Hydrad:

Vote: Hydrad

Hopefully this works!

Weird thing to say.. maybe it's the first time he hammered someone.

Full claims:

I am Michonne, the Wary Survivor With a Heart

Each night I can chop a head.

I was immune to getting bitten twice (in the show Michonne has 'pet' walkers that keep other walkers away).

And if I kill three or more people, I become part of the group.

Can you explain more what your role says about becoming part of the group?
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1666 on: April 23, 2016, 09:53:58 am »

Well the full claim was today.

At any rate.. well, he definitely makes sense as SK.  But, again, he's basically saying he's SK, or modified SK that can win with another faction.  So I suppose the big question is whether or not he can claim alignments.

The thing is.. if he was a Survivor and can win with town.. why does he need to claim this?  Why not just leave it at vig? And, from his perspective, the only way he's not winning right now is if one of us is not town.. so he should be looking for another Other, or some other explanation.

He does consider ideas today about one of us being a Walker, or being bit. Though I think I originated the idea of being bit but not yet turned as an explanation for showing up in the vote count.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1667 on: April 23, 2016, 09:59:49 am »

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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1668 on: April 23, 2016, 05:58:42 pm »

I'll try to do ADK later on tomorrow.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1669 on: April 23, 2016, 06:12:20 pm »

Sir Martin takes about five minutes, he's had astonishingly little content.
Like I said, I forgot how much of a time commitment Mafia was.

I mean, I can try to put forth more stuff, but I think you guys know what I think:

Someone got bit/became a walker.
They have a walker wincon.
They are preventing the town from winning.
It's probably not Witherweaver.
They probably haven't turned but will turn during twilight or night to perform a walker night action.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1670 on: April 23, 2016, 06:14:11 pm »

Sir Martin, did you ever say why you killed Haddock?
He felt scummy, but I decided to not draw attention to the fact that I thought he was scummy because I wanted to be very low on the possible night kill list.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1671 on: April 23, 2016, 07:00:22 pm »

1)Why is it less likely to be Witherweaver?

2)Do you think that we should no-lynch?
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1672 on: April 23, 2016, 08:30:21 pm »

What about this?

I am Michonne, the Wary Survivor With a Heart

Each night I can chop a head.

I was immune to getting bitten twice (in the show Michonne has 'pet' walkers that keep other walkers away).

And if I kill three or more people, I become part of the group.

Can you explain more what your role says about becoming part of the group?
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1673 on: April 23, 2016, 08:31:10 pm »

The walker theory is a bit convenient, since it gives us a reason to not kill you.
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Re: RMM32: The Walking Dead (The Fourth Day)
« Reply #1674 on: April 24, 2016, 07:02:52 am »

Sorry guys, yesterday got way busier than expected.  I'm around.
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