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[yuma]

Why would people getting bit be s thing if they didn't become zombies? Also the fact that the group actions make a distinction of "random zombies" indicates that there are other kinds.

I am not sure I understand your question. People die if they got bit. If people are dead, they turn into zombies.

Then how do we win?

You need to post or you are going to be hated.

[faust]

Well, the deadline is soonish and we should get some proper wagons I guess? Who of you is able to vote anyways?

Hydrad, RR, yuma, EFHW, ADK, faust, gkrieg, Limetime, Haddock

Limetime and Haddock are not voting however. They should.

Everyone who is voting: Could you please give me your reasoning for why your vote is where it is, and what you think of the other players that have votes on them? I'm asking Hydrad, RR, EFHW in particular, but of course others can answer too.

[gkrieg13]

On mobile now but I would definitely switch to ADK.

[EFHW]

Well since none of you seem interested in helping me keep my win con I am just going to say i don't really give two hoots about yours either...

I don't see how lynching or not lynching you affects your wincon.  What am I missing?

[EFHW]

I agree we need to start consolidating our votes. I'm going to have to look things over again though. Starting now.

[Haddock]

Limetime and Haddock are not voting however. They should.

Everyone who is voting: Could you please give me your reasoning for why your vote is where it is, and what you think of the other players that have votes on them? I'm asking Hydrad, RR, EFHW in particular, but of course others can answer too.

Dude:

vote: ADK then.

My reasoning was kind of explained above in my stream-of-consciousness stuff.  But in summary: generally a scummy feel.

I would also be very happy with RR, and still to some extent SS though I've lost some of my faith in that case.

Other existing "wagons":
chairs: meh.  Chairs gets easier to read as games progress.  No point lynching him early.
yuma: I don't like lynching someone just because we think they'll survive it or not zombify or anything.  The truth is we have no idea how things will go.  And I don't find yuma scummy.  Might be a better alternative than some things though.
2.7: I can't think what e has really done this game, though I'm admittedly not 100% as focussed as I could be.  Could lynch.
gkrieg: Why is there a vote here?  He seems towny to me.  Oh yeah, it's ADK voting.  There you go.
EFHW: Yeah, could lynch.  Hasn't said too much.

[gkrieg13]

vote: ADK

But remember when EFHW flips scum that I was right!

[2.71828.....]

vote: ADK

But remember when EFHW flips scum that I was right!

You can just vote for her tomorrow. But faust/efhw are right. We need to get some proper wagons going

[faust]

Dude:

vote: ADK then.

Sorry, I was just going with the last vote count.

[2.71828.....]

Well since none of you seem interested in helping me keep my win con I am just going to say i don't really give two hoots about yours either...

I don't see how lynching or not lynching you affects your wincon.  What am I missing?

This. You talk how when you die you will get a new role/etc....new win con as well?

[Roadrunner7671]

Unvote
Why would you be happy with a RR lynch Haddock?

[EFHW]

Still working my way through.  I'm up to just when yuma got the bite and so far I have noticed a few interesting things.

1. Hydrad did not seem to read the setup information carefully at all.

2. I agree with faust that chairs' advice and worries seem forced.  At first when he said there might be downsides to the group powers I thought that was something to consider, but when he kept saying it, it started to feel like when scum try to get town distracted with things that aren't actually concerns.  And having considered it, I do not think there will be hidden consequences since there are already overt ones.

3. faust's saying not to vote for him at first seems like a towny warning, but then he says if there is a majority wanting to vote him he would accept it.  Does that mean the bad consequences would no longer apply?  Or are the bad consequences just for him?

4.  Really dislike silver voting Haddock for RVS'g.  There have been plenty of RMM games with RVS.  I haven't seen that distinction drawn before.  And FOS on ADK as well, for sheeping that.

5. There are about 200 posts preceding yuma being bitten that are just fluff and no one was doing much of anything.

6. My vote on e was out of suspicion that he was the source of yuma's bite.  That seems hasty to me now.

Town reads on yuma, Haddock, RR (can you believe it?!)
Mixed on faust, ADK, silver, Hydrad
scumread on chairs

I don't know Ampharos or Limetime at all, so null on them.  Anyone else not mentioned is null.

At this point I'll vote: chairs.

[Roadrunner7671]

What is so weird about having a town read on RR?

[chairs]

If I could vote, I'd vote EFHW because he lied in point 2 on his "interesting things" list.

There are no overt consequences listed for "Split up", which was the point I tried to stress in my discussion of potential covert consequences.

[faust]

If I could vote, I'd vote EFHW because he lied in point 2 on his "interesting things" list.

There are no overt consequences listed for "Split up", which was the point I tried to stress in my discussion of potential covert consequences.

1. EFHW's female.
2. That's a stupid reason to vote for someone.
3. Vote: chairs

[faust]

I guess I'm just at a point where's I'd really prefer to lynch a lurker because these people make this great game unfun.

[Hydrad]

I guess I'm just at a point where's I'd really prefer to lynch a lurker because these people make this great game unfun.

Ya I blame myself for this. I'm going to try to only be in one game from now on to see if that helps out. Because its pretty obvious I can't really do 2-3 that well.

Anyways though. I'm still fine with a chairs vote. But I'd like to have a competing wagon as well as right now it feels like chairs is the only option. As for who the competing wagon can be...

Vote: ADK for now sounds fun.

[Roadrunner7671]

I guess I'm just at a point where's I'd really prefer to lynch a lurker because these people make this great game unfun.

What about acti-lurkers?

[Ampharos]

I started a kind of reread since I probably fall into Faust's lurker category.  Didn't get very far before realizing SS reads pretty scummy.  I'm also probably wrong about this.

[gkrieg13]

I started a kind of reread since I probably fall into Faust's lurker category.  Didn't get very far before realizing SS reads pretty scummy.  I'm also probably wrong about this.

What did you get from the rest of the reread?

[Ampharos]

I'm on an ipad, which i hate using, which means im dumb since there is a perfectly acceptable laptop literally right next to me.  so, Im kind of like rereading in little segments and stopping when i have something to say. 

next thing to say: i am okay with the chairs wagon.  faust said something about his posts feeling forced, and i was already feeling that by the time i got there.

also, faust is probably town here.  he reads very town!faust.  last 2 games i read him successfully as scum then town.  however, im not a big fan of his thingy about not voting for him. im leaving open the possibility hes scum

[faust]

3. faust's saying not to vote for him at first seems like a towny warning, but then he says if there is a majority wanting to vote him he would accept it.  Does that mean the bad consequences would no longer apply?  Or are the bad consequences just for him?

Well let's just say if a majority wants to lynch me, I will reveal more, and then everything will become clear.

[Ampharos]

yuma reads town. 

this is hard... can i be done now?

[faust]

I guess I'm just at a point where's I'd really prefer to lynch a lurker because these people make this great game unfun.

What about acti-lurkers?

I don't think we have any of those.

[Roadrunner7671]

I guess I'm just at a point where's I'd really prefer to lynch a lurker because these people make this great game unfun.

What about acti-lurkers?

I don't think we have any of those.

What am I, chopped liver?