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[EFHW]

I admit, there is a risk that I am making incorrect assumptions.

[Witherweaver]

I see what you're saying EFHW, but when Yuma was alive as a human, we lynched him, killing his humanness.  To me, a lynch is a kill, so if we lynch a zombie we will naturally kill the zombie the in only way we can.

That said, I still would rather go somewhere else.

PPE: How'd someone get bit in the first place?   We're focusing too much on zombies here instead of trying to find scum.  But I'm starting to sound like a broken record.

My guess is that scum has the ability to cause bites.. maybe by 'hiding' a walker somewhere as an ambush or something.  Walkers have been used offensively in the book/show.  Also similar to Dune Mafia, where scum had the ability to damage stillsuits.  e's role could be something like he gives up his vote for the day to cause a player to get bitten.

[Witherweaver]

It could have been Hydrad, too.

[EFHW]

It could have been Hydrad, too.

Right, so why is everyone focused on e?  Are there other indications pointing to him that I have forgotten?
But Hydrad can vote and is alive, e and yuma can't vote and I think neither is alive, though yuma says differently.

[Witherweaver]

It could have been Hydrad, too.

Right, so why is everyone focused on e?  Are there other indications pointing to him that I have forgotten?
But Hydrad can vote and is alive, e and yuma can't vote and I think neither is alive, though yuma says differently.

Well, he can't vote, and

Sorry, super busy IRL, won't be able to post much this week at all (see V/LA thread).  I will continue to check in and stuff, and if you have questions for me ask, but I won't be around all that much.

What I will say is that my power is investigative and works similarly to patrolling in that I am allowed to decide to "go on patrol" each day and lose my vote to boost my investigative powers at night.  Unfortunately, not very useful from last night since everyone decided to up and die overnight....

If his role involves giving up his vote to do something, he needs to provide some explanation for this, since it's public.  His post here implies he investigated someone that died, but Faust says he was targetted by e. 

Also, this came out immediately in Day 2 with no prompting or pressure.

[EFHW]

Understanding the mechanics is probably important in this game, because making bad assumptions could end up screwing us over.

It sounds like you are saying my plan to deal with e later is too risky?

[Ampharos]

I think it's worth noting I'm getting big scum vibes from EFHW through this whole thing.

Not because of the effort you're putting in (which is appreciated), but more the way you're going about it.  I can't quite put my finger on it but I want this on the record.  There is always the possibility that it's because we have never played in the same game before 

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm getting scummy vibes from EFHW as well.

[EFHW]

I see what you're saying EFHW, but when Yuma was alive as a human, we lynched him, killing his humanness.  To me, a lynch is a kill, so if we lynch a zombie we will naturally kill the zombie the in only way we can.

That said, I still would rather go somewhere else.

PPE: How'd someone get bit in the first place?   We're focusing too much on zombies here instead of trying to find scum.  But I'm starting to sound like a broken record.

At least I am trying to work out a plan based on the available information.  This post of yours is very misleading, b/c it suggests a lynch will kill a zombie, and it WON'T, and we should know it won't from what happened with yuma.  So why are you encouraging people to think that it will?

The only point of debate here should be whether e is a zombie or not.  I think he is and don't want to waste a second lynch (we already wasted the first).  People who don't think he is a zombie, b/c he seems to be taking actions and making decisions, want to lynch him.  That is a reasonable position.  You are saying he IS a zombie AND we should lynch him. That doesn't make sense and muddles the situation rather than clarifying.

[EFHW]

faust - will your method of suicide destroy your brain?

[Ampharos]

Unless you've got information the rest of us aren't privy to, how do you know zombies won't die from a lynch?  We've never explored that territory.  I feel as though you're getting caught up on assumptions, something Ash specifically encouraged us not to do

Additionally, whether intentional or not, you're putting words in my mouth by saying I want people to lynch him.  If I wanted e lynched I would have voted him already.  The quote you quoted me in even said I'd rather vote elsewhere...

So, I suppose I'll make good on it... 

Vote: EFHW

[faust]

faust - will your method of suicide destroy your brain?

I will shoot myself in head, so I strongly think so.

[Witherweaver]

faust - will your method of suicide destroy your brain?

I will shoot myself in head, so I strongly think so.

Hey, Carl got shot in the head, and he's doing alright.

[SirMartin]

A lot of PPEs, but why lynch 2.7 if Faust can just kill him next dawn?

[Ampharos]

A lot of PPEs, but why lynch 2.7 if Faust can just kill him next dawn?

I think the general idea is that faust would then become a zombie and we'd be back at square 0.  The gamble on lynching e is that if it does kill zombie him, we might be zombie free after faust's suicide. 

However, I'm thinking there's a good chance we'll have more zombies since we didn't check the perimeter, and who knows if there are other zombies here (aka why we have 2 more people than are alive). 

[EFHW]

I'll say it one more time. If lynches killed zombies they would also have prevented yuma from becoming a zombie.  If there is some wrinkle I don't know about, tell me now, because this seems completely logical to me.  If that's incorrect then ashersky isn't being true to the flavor so far as I understand it.

I'm not putting words in your mouth, you just said contradictory things in the same post and didn't show any inclination until now of following through with the second half.  You don't say why you wanted to look elsewhere. I considered voting you at the time, but marked it down to inexperience, and I'm more interested in voting someone on the e wagon. But I have to say, I'm really not a fan of being accused based on "vibes".

PPE: 4

[EFHW]

A lot of PPEs, but why lynch 2.7 if Faust can just kill him next dawn?

I think the general idea is that faust would then become a zombie and we'd be back at square 0.  The gamble on lynching e is that if it does kill zombie him, we might be zombie free after faust's suicide. 

However, I'm thinking there's a good chance we'll have more zombies since we didn't check the perimeter, and who knows if there are other zombies here (aka why we have 2 more people than are alive).

There is the risk that faust will become a zombie before he can kill e or himself (or yuma, since I think he could well be a zombie, too) but I don't think there is anything we can do about that through lynching.  We should have shot e this morning.

[EFHW]

faust can both kill and suicide.

[Hydrad]

OK but if e really is a walker. What even is his win condition?

Yuma did you get any info on walkers while you were one for a bit?

If you did can you reply with a success baby meme I guess? If we are allowed to do that

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm still waiting on some sort of explanation from e. Not that I'm hopeful.

[Hydrad]

I'm fine with going on e though.

do I have to say intent to hammer for e to claim?

[2.71828.....]

I'm still waiting on some sort of explanation from e. Not that I'm hopeful.

What explanation do you want? I bit faust? Because that is just not the case. Redirection is the best explanation I can think of. I mean, I make an easy target since I can't vote.

I investigated silverspawn and Haddock, recieved that silverspawn was in the group and haddock was not. I get results as "in the group" or "not in the group"

I can't explain the result that I targeted faust.

[2.71828.....]

Double investigation if I give up my ability to vote. No investigation if I am able to vote.

[EFHW]

Why aren't you counted as alive?

[faust]

I'm still waiting on some sort of explanation from e. Not that I'm hopeful.

What explanation do you want? I bit faust? Because that is just not the case. Redirection is the best explanation I can think of. I mean, I make an easy target since I can't vote.

I investigated silverspawn and Haddock, recieved that silverspawn was in the group and haddock was not. I get results as "in the group" or "not in the group"

I can't explain the result that I targeted faust.

So why are you not voting for Hydrad?