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[Witherweaver]

Did you expect us to forget about the previous game?  Or expect us to assume you wouldn't try it because of it?

I don't think that game changes the probability of fakeclaiming masons much, if anything it probably makes it less likely.

It is not my fault that you were so blind that game. Ash claimed masons day 1 and they were never killed, and you never managed to lynch a single scum. Hello. I don't know why you didn't realize something was up.

Here, I kept our identity hidden and we already got a scum day 1.

I got NK'd that game (or lynched?).  I was pretty highly suspecting Ash by the time I was out of the game.

[Witherweaver]

Also, talking like a dick is certainly not going to make people want to lynch you less.

[silverspawn]

I hereby politely ask you to not be anti town because you're grumpy over a loss in a game where you didn't want to believe that scum fakeclaimed masons despite having plenty of evidence.

There is no evidence here. Everything I did makes perfect sense. And scum fakeclaiming masons is highly unlikely--- and is not more likely because it just happened.

[yuma]

Also, talking like a dick is certainly not going to make people want to lynch you less.

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[Witherweaver]

I hereby politely ask you to not be anti town because you're grumpy over a loss in a game where you didn't want to believe that scum fakeclaimed masons despite having plenty of evidence.

There is no evidence here. Everything I did makes perfect sense. And scum fakeclaiming masons is highly unlikely--- and is not more likely because it just happened.

Also, talking like a dick is certainly not going to make people want to lynch you less.

[Roadrunner7671]

I might want to lynch SS, but no intent to hammer yet.

But he's my strongest scum read for sure. Sorry, but we talked about Masonry. I think scum fake claims mason without outting his other scum partner.
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[silverspawn]

the point of masons isn't to try and fly under the radar of mafia. It is to win the trust of town.

And you are failing miserably at that.

That's totally wrong. the point of masons is NOT to win the trust of town. You already have that. The point is to make the most out of your conf!town status.

[yuma]

I hereby politely ask you to not be anti town because you're grumpy over a loss in a game where you didn't want to believe that scum fakeclaimed masons despite having plenty of evidence.

There is no evidence here. Everything I did makes perfect sense. And scum fakeclaiming masons is highly unlikely--- and is not more likely because it just happened.

I am not grumpy over an old game. I am wary because I see only one person who I feel could be your parnter and you are refusing to collaborate that.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not grumpy about not winning that game, why are you trying to be an asshole?  I was out of it by the time it came to those decisions.

I'm grumpy about you scummily quickhammering Gkrieg and us not lynching you yesterday.

[yuma]

the point of masons isn't to try and fly under the radar of mafia. It is to win the trust of town.

And you are failing miserably at that.

That's totally wrong. the point of masons is NOT to win the trust of town. You already have that. The point is to make the most out of your conf!town status.

YOU AREN'T CONFIRMED TOWN.

You maybe become so at some point, if you are a mason. But, right here, right now. You aren't. So stop acting like you are.

[Witherweaver]

I might want to lynch SS, but no intent to hammer yet.

But he's my strongest scum read for sure. Sorry, but we talked about Masonry. I think scum fake claims mason without outting his other scum partner.
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Are you claiming not his partner then?

[Roadrunner7671]

I might want to lynch SS, but no intent to hammer yet.

But he's my strongest scum read for sure. Sorry, but we talked about Masonry. I think scum fake claims mason without outting his other scum partner.
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Are you claiming not his partner then?

I am not his mason partner, no.
I don't think he has one.

But if scum fake claims mason, scum would rather say 'I don't want to out my mason partner' instead of 'my mason partner is (insert mafia parnet here.)

[yuma]

I guess I see absolutely no reason as to why you want to keep your partner hidden?

What purpose does that serve?

[silverspawn]

I guess I see absolutely no reason as to why you want to keep your partner hidden?

What purpose does that serve?

a) if I don't die then scum needs one more day to kill him
b) it gives us way more information if he is close to being lynched

Fishing for my partner's name here is very scummy by the way.

[Witherweaver]

I might want to lynch SS, but no intent to hammer yet.

But he's my strongest scum read for sure. Sorry, but we talked about Masonry. I think scum fake claims mason without outting his other scum partner.
PPE 3

Are you claiming not his partner then?

I am not his mason partner, no.
I don't think he has one.

But if scum fake claims mason, scum would rather say 'I don't want to out my mason partner' instead of 'my mason partner is (insert mafia parnet here.)

Why'd you bring up Masons at all?

[yuma]

I guess I see absolutely no reason as to why you want to keep your partner hidden?

What purpose does that serve?

a) if I don't die then scum needs one more day to kill him
b) it gives us way more information if he is close to being lynched

Fishing for my partner's name here is very scummy by the way.

then vote for me.

If you don't die scum needs one more day to kill him anyways... I dont' see the point here? And truth be told, you might end up getting lynched tomorrow if you and your "partner" are still alive.

Info is nice to an extent... But if that is the case why did you claim immediately instead of waiting for a while to gain more information today? But really I would rather know than have this information.

[silverspawn]

Look. Before that game, you would have treated me as conf!town. You proved that, because you did it with ash, and it is the right play.

Then, because you lost that game, you are now treating me differently, even though that games does not make a fakeclaim here more likely.

This means that you are punishing me for you losing that game.

[Witherweaver]

Look. Before that game, you would have treated me as conf!town. You proved that, because you did it with ash, and it is the right play.

Then, because you lost that game, you are now treating me differently, even though that games does not make a fakeclaim here more likely.

This means that you are punishing me for you losing that game.

Thanks Awaclus.

[Witherweaver]

You know you'd be more convincing if you didn't prepare a strawman before coming into this.

[yuma]

Look. Before that game, you would have treated me as conf!town. You proved that, because you did it with ash, and it is the right play.

Then, because you lost that game, you are now treating me differently, even though that games does not make a fakeclaim here more likely.

This means that you are punishing me for you losing that game.

NO. That is an asinine assumption to make. I can't prove it, but I think I would be reacting the exact same way here. Because unless your partner is Axxle I see no reason to believe your claim. I would see it that way regardless of how the other game played out.

[silverspawn]

I guess I see absolutely no reason as to why you want to keep your partner hidden?

What purpose does that serve?

a) if I don't die then scum needs one more day to kill him
b) it gives us way more information if he is close to being lynched

Fishing for my partner's name here is very scummy by the way.

then vote for me.

I believe that you are in fact grumpy because of that loss, as I said earlier, and that that's the reason for your reaction. I would vote for WW, but I'd rather not vote at all and let others start-- as I said, I was intending to play as an IC. I shouldn't even have said that it's scummy.

Why I didn't wait even longer to claim? I considered it, but decided that that would be stretching things too far. Then you'd have actual reason to believe it's a fakeclaim.

[silverspawn]

Look. Before that game, you would have treated me as conf!town. You proved that, because you did it with ash, and it is the right play.

Then, because you lost that game, you are now treating me differently, even though that games does not make a fakeclaim here more likely.

This means that you are punishing me for you losing that game.

NO. That is an asinine assumption to make. I can't prove it, but I think I would be reacting the exact same way here. Because unless your partner is Axxle I see no reason to believe your claim. I would see it that way regardless of how the other game played out.

That makes no sense. We want to keep our identities hidden. We'll vote for each other.

[yuma]

Ok. Look here is the thing. WW isn't your partner. I am not your partner. RR has said he isn't your partner. So it is Awaclus, chairs or Axxle. I am hoping the non-partners quickly reveal what they are once they show up and then hopefully we can just force the issue cause I don't think we are going to get you to do anything.

So I'll wait and see what happens then...

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[yuma]

Look. Before that game, you would have treated me as conf!town. You proved that, because you did it with ash, and it is the right play.

Then, because you lost that game, you are now treating me differently, even though that games does not make a fakeclaim here more likely.

This means that you are punishing me for you losing that game.

NO. That is an asinine assumption to make. I can't prove it, but I think I would be reacting the exact same way here. Because unless your partner is Axxle I see no reason to believe your claim. I would see it that way regardless of how the other game played out.

That makes no sense. We want to keep our identities hidden. We'll vote for each other.

Why do you want to keep your identities hidden? I don't think I have ever seen a game where masons voted for each other before they claimed.

[silverspawn]

You seem to have this idea that voting for your mason partner is somehow ... unmannered? That's err I don't know. I disagree.

Why do you want to keep your identities hidden? I don't think I have ever seen a game where masons voted for each other before they claimed.

Yeah, I remember a bunch of games where I thought masons played rather poorly, accidentally claiming day 1 and stuff. IC's help more for PoE later in the game. I think you have to claim at a point as late as possible while it is still profitable for scum to NK you.