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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #725 on: March 11, 2016, 11:50:02 am »

Who is towny to me?

Yuma, Axxel, SS, chairs, awaclus, axxel, RR

I'm not sure. Let me do some wagon analysis.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #726 on: March 11, 2016, 12:19:15 pm »

rip... uh :(

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #727 on: March 11, 2016, 12:20:38 pm »

so, claim. I am a Mason.

My play was purposefully scummy to not draw a NK, and potentially gain information if people jump on my wagon. sufficient to say, it worked.

I talked about this with my partner, and we want to delay his claim-- if I don't die tonight, then he can claim tomorrow.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #728 on: March 11, 2016, 12:21:24 pm »

If no-one has objections, then I'll play this like an IC from now on, i.e. won't provide reads n stuff.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #729 on: March 11, 2016, 12:22:24 pm »

so, claim. I am a Mason.

My play was purposefully scummy to not draw a NK, and potentially gain information if people jump on my wagon. sufficient to say, it worked.

I talked about this with my partner, and we want to delay his claim-- if I don't die tonight, then he can claim tomorrow.

Well I kinda saw this coming. Man. I am really surprised you weren't night killed... I thought you were scum playing super risk or PR being a bit too obvious...
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #730 on: March 11, 2016, 12:34:45 pm »

so, claim. I am a Mason.

My play was purposefully scummy to not draw a NK, and potentially gain information if people jump on my wagon. sufficient to say, it worked.

I talked about this with my partner, and we want to delay his claim-- if I don't die tonight, then he can claim tomorrow.

It worked... how?

Why is not drawing a NK good?
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #731 on: March 11, 2016, 12:36:58 pm »

so, claim. I am a Mason.

My play was purposefully scummy to not draw a NK, and potentially gain information if people jump on my wagon. sufficient to say, it worked.

I talked about this with my partner, and we want to delay his claim-- if I don't die tonight, then he can claim tomorrow.

It worked... how?

Why is not drawing a NK good?

because, as an IC, my life is worth more than that of others.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #732 on: March 11, 2016, 12:38:14 pm »

And one of you getting NK'd would actually create an IC.  Instead of making us lynch you.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #733 on: March 11, 2016, 12:39:45 pm »

And one of you getting NK'd would actually create one IC.

Indeed. And this way, we have two.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #734 on: March 11, 2016, 12:41:10 pm »

I had a big post about theory and a wonderful plan until I realized I had looked at everything incorrectly... bummer
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #735 on: March 11, 2016, 12:41:47 pm »

Also I have to say Axxle not getting NKed is highly suspicious.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #736 on: March 11, 2016, 12:42:31 pm »

Alright.

I want the vig to claim. That creates either an IC or a 1 - 1 standoff, both is good. With me having claimed, I don't think he's a big target - plus, it's probably a 1-shot vig, anyway, so effectively a named towny.

Objections?

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #737 on: March 11, 2016, 12:46:18 pm »

Also... I think your partner should claim. Mafia is going to do the same work that I just did so I don't feel bad about stating this. Every other player has either voted for you or been voted by you except for Axxle...

So either he is your partner or you two voted for each other, which I think is really bad form for Masons. So if Axxle isn't your partner I think I am highly suspicious of you.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #738 on: March 11, 2016, 12:47:45 pm »

Alright.

I want the vig to claim. That creates either an IC or a 1 - 1 standoff, both is good. With me having claimed, I don't think he's a big target - plus, it's probably a 1-shot vig, anyway, so effectively a named towny.

Objections?

I don't like it. Because I think mafia kills him over you tomorrow if we mislynch today creating a scenario where we have to decide between claimed masons like we did in the game you ran.

If the Vig doesn't claim I think mafia is more likely to shoot you if you are a mason tonight than risk hitting a VT while trying to hit the vig.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #739 on: March 11, 2016, 12:48:57 pm »

Also... I think your partner should claim. Mafia is going to do the same work that I just did so I don't feel bad about stating this. Every other player has either voted for you or been voted by you except for Axxle...

So either he is your partner or you two voted for each other, which I think is really bad form for Masons. So if Axxle isn't your partner I think I am highly suspicious of you.

You don't seem to be giving us a lot of credit.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #740 on: March 11, 2016, 12:49:45 pm »

I would like the other claim to come out.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #741 on: March 11, 2016, 12:51:12 pm »

Also... I think your partner should claim. Mafia is going to do the same work that I just did so I don't feel bad about stating this. Every other player has either voted for you or been voted by you except for Axxle...

So either he is your partner or you two voted for each other, which I think is really bad form for Masons. So if Axxle isn't your partner I think I am highly suspicious of you.

You don't seem to be giving us a lot of credit.

Well... I guess I just don't think it is a good idea for masons to vote for each other. Every time I have been a mason I have not done that. Because it creates situations like this where I am doubtful of anyone being a mason with you except for Axxle.

So yeah... if you aren't masons with Axxle I am not giving you a lot of credit because your previous play does not support your being a mason with anyone else.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #742 on: March 11, 2016, 12:51:20 pm »

Also... I think your partner should claim.

Two cases

#1 Scum kills me tonight
We have an IC tomorrow either way
#2 Scum doesn't kill me tonight
We have 2 ICs tomorrow and 1 the day after that

So no.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #743 on: March 11, 2016, 12:52:08 pm »

Vote: Silverspawn
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #744 on: March 11, 2016, 12:52:21 pm »

Also... I think your partner should claim.

Two cases

#1 Scum kills me tonight
We have an IC tomorrow either way
#2 Scum doesn't kill me tonight
We have 2 ICs tomorrow and 1 the day after that

So no.

You won't be an IC tomorrow if we mislynch today. We will be at lylo like we were in Fanfiction trying to decide whether to lynch claimed masons or not...
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #745 on: March 11, 2016, 12:53:07 pm »

Did you expect us to forget about the previous game?  Or expect us to assume you wouldn't try it because of it?
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #746 on: March 11, 2016, 12:53:35 pm »

Also... I think your partner should claim. Mafia is going to do the same work that I just did so I don't feel bad about stating this. Every other player has either voted for you or been voted by you except for Axxle...

So either he is your partner or you two voted for each other, which I think is really bad form for Masons. So if Axxle isn't your partner I think I am highly suspicious of you.

You don't seem to be giving us a lot of credit.

Well... I guess I just don't think it is a good idea for masons to vote for each other. Every time I have been a mason I have not done that. Because it creates situations like this where I am doubtful of anyone being a mason with you except for Axxle.

So yeah... if you aren't masons with Axxle I am not giving you a lot of credit because your previous play does not support your being a mason with anyone else.

Erm... obviously my partner and me tried to not make it obvious who the other one is once the first one claimed, and we have no problems voting for each other. The only way it's Axxle is if we went for a double-cross strategy and deliberately didn't vote because we expect scum to expect that we did in fact vote. Did we do that? Maybe? You are fishing for information here. I'm not telling you who my partner is.

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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #747 on: March 11, 2016, 12:54:30 pm »

vote: silverspawn

I would rather lose completely than lose to fake claiming masons again.

Also why are you so scared that mafia might think you were masons?
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #748 on: March 11, 2016, 12:55:07 pm »

the point of masons isn't to try and fly under the radar of mafia. It is to win the trust of town.

And you are failing miserably at that.
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Re: M77: Scout Mafia - Third, the day is
« Reply #749 on: March 11, 2016, 12:55:23 pm »

Did you expect us to forget about the previous game?  Or expect us to assume you wouldn't try it because of it?

I don't think that game changes the probability of fakeclaiming masons much, if anything it probably makes it less likely.

It is not my fault that you were so blind that game. Ash claimed masons day 1 and they were never killed, and you never managed to lynch a single scum. Hello. I don't know why you didn't realize something was up.

Here, I kept our identity hidden and we already got a scum day 1.
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