Topic: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Game Over!) (Read 152236 times)

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1000 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:55:52 am »

On the other hand, we have this from chairs:

An early vote on Awaclus with as good a first post case as there can be.

calling scumteams

good discussion on the fruit vendor claim

joining faust/WW in voting for silverspawn.

Questioning Hydrad votes, but then after seeing my amazing case (the followup one, not that flimsly original case) (I can only assume) he decides to vote for Hydrad.

And I mean, that is how he ends D1. He is on-wagon. He stayed true to voting Hydrad even after the claim. (ok, that was probably just because he wasn't online). But still, you guys seriously want to lynch on-wagon? Seriously?

Continuing on to D2, we get more of the same.

voting on a wagon, going for RR.

switching to Ampharos when he sees a case he likes better.

Then switching again to EgorK. Call it survival voting. Call it whatever you want. He defended himself excellently by calling it "faust shoving hard." Splendid defense in my opinion. Not that it is necessarily accurate, but I just like the fight in it.

so yeah. I really don't buy the votes on chairs. I totally think he is town. He doesn't create cases, he finds the ones he likes and sticks to them. Like, you know, Hydrad. Who was scum. Who he voted against. Man, going into this reread of chairs I wasn't expecting to so thoroughly convince myself that he is town, but I think I have.

Witherweaver · « **Reply #1001 on:** February 17, 2016, 01:50:26 am »

I think Faust is scum.

ashersky · « **Reply #1002 on:** February 17, 2016, 03:14:56 am »

Vote Count 2.6

Eat celsiums.

RR (2): Lekkit, Awaclus
chairs (4): Ampharos, faust, SS, ADK
Egor (4): RR, WW, chairs, 2.7

Not Voting (1): EgorK

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day will end at 9am on the 19th of February, forum time.

Awaclus · « **Reply #1003 on:** February 17, 2016, 05:42:13 am »

Why aren't we lynching RR?

faust · « **Reply #1004 on:** February 17, 2016, 06:11:10 am »

Quote from: 2.71828..... on February 17, 2016, 12:55:52 am

On the other hand, we have this from chairs:

An early vote on Awaclus with as good a first post case as there can be.

calling scumteams

good discussion on the fruit vendor claim

joining faust/WW in voting for silverspawn.

Questioning Hydrad votes, but then after seeing my amazing case (the followup one, not that flimsly original case) (I can only assume) he decides to vote for Hydrad.

And I mean, that is how he ends D1. He is on-wagon. He stayed true to voting Hydrad even after the claim. (ok, that was probably just because he wasn't online). But still, you guys seriously want to lynch on-wagon? Seriously?

Continuing on to D2, we get more of the same.

voting on a wagon, going for RR.

switching to Ampharos when he sees a case he likes better.

Then switching again to EgorK. Call it survival voting. Call it whatever you want. He defended himself excellently by calling it "faust shoving hard." Splendid defense in my opinion. Not that it is necessarily accurate, but I just like the fight in it.

so yeah. I really don't buy the votes on chairs. I totally think he is town. He doesn't create cases, he finds the ones he likes and sticks to them. Like, you know, Hydrad. Who was scum. Who he voted against. Man, going into this reread of chairs I wasn't expecting to so thoroughly convince myself that he is town, but I think I have.

I havehonestly no idea how thismakesyou think chairs is town. It sure buys some towncred that he was on-wagon, but the rest...?

faust · « **Reply #1005 on:** February 17, 2016, 06:11:38 am »

My space bar is not working the way it should.

faust · « **Reply #1006 on:** February 17, 2016, 06:12:14 am »

Quote from: Witherweaver on February 17, 2016, 01:50:26 am

I think Faust is scum.

I don't.

faust · « **Reply #1007 on:** February 17, 2016, 06:16:01 am »

Quote from: 2.71828..... on February 17, 2016, 12:42:18 am

EgorK:

On the other hand, this Egor reread. I mean, that vote for thinking we have a counterclaim - when I read your post here, itmade me think Egor is more likely town, yet you come out as scum from this somehow? Scum is more likely to accept claims that they know are true.

The "utterly shocked" part actually also doesn't read scummy to me.

So I find these pretty weird.

faust · « **Reply #1008 on:** February 17, 2016, 06:21:40 am »

Quote from: A Drowned Kernel on February 16, 2016, 11:06:29 pm

Okay, so,

I don't like faust's "don't vote for amph" post at all. His reasoning is surprisingly weak for faust, he admits that amph has been scummy since replacing in, and he says that it's not a good lynch "for today." If a lynch is good for later, it's good for today, IMO.

But chairs is ultimately scummier. He's been lurky, even for chairs, and has been doing pretty much nothing but voting on wagons as soon as they form. I know he has a quiet meta but I think that in this case if it looks like scum and quacks like scum then it's probably scum.

Man, here I was thinking my reasoning on that one was pretty good. And I don't get "if a lynch is good later, it's good today"... that's uh I can't think of a nice way to put it. If we're at 3-player LyLo with me, you and player X surviving (newsflash: this won't happen), then of course I will vote for X. That does not mean I should vote for any player except me and you today, which your statement would imply.

faust · « **Reply #1009 on:** February 17, 2016, 06:22:50 am »

Quote from: Awaclus on February 17, 2016, 05:42:13 am

Why aren't we lynching RR?

I'd ask, "why should we", but then again I already know your answer to that.

EgorK · « **Reply #1010 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:26:16 am »

e, I do such rereads to get in game in which I have trouble getting into. Then I got lynched for it usually (at least I remember at least 2 times that was the case). Unfortunately this time it seems it hadn't helped. I still need to finish it though

Oh, wagons. Won't vote for me, I am not ash and do not have some kind of result. RR I had exactly one time correctly voted for - in 3 ppl LyLo where he voted me first, so not exactly good record (and I vigged town him). Chairs I can vote for, especially for self-preservation. But I based on my reread ss comes more scummy. He does not make sense like at all with most of his actions. He did same in XShots and was town, but my WIFOM-o-meter says that if anyone good at manipulating his meta that is silver.

So at the very least I want to see if there are any interest - Vote: silver

silverspawn · « **Reply #1011 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:36:22 am »

These are the kinds of moments where I'm reminded how insanely hard this game is.

I tentatively like Lekkit for having gone completely unnoticed so far.

Let's put up a totally uninformed reads list that will be completely terrible. Or maybe it will be great?

2,71...
Ampharos
RR
chairs
WW
faust
ADK
Egork
Awaclus
Lekkit

silverspawn · « **Reply #1012 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:36:43 am »

PPE okay you can put Egork below Awaclus for this vote.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1013 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:38:49 am »

At this point into fds meta, I think you can start giving scum points for throwing votes at completely random people when you're a big wagon, rather than supporting another big wagon yourself.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1014 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:39:45 am »

I think I didn't even include dead people this time.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1015 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:41:29 am »

vote: egork

L-1

silverspawn · « **Reply #1016 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:41:39 am »

this wagon is also pretty townie

2.71828..... · « **Reply #1017 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:44:24 am »

@faust. Looks like we are reading the same things and coming to different conclusions. I am ok with that.

faust · « **Reply #1018 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:45:51 am »

Quote from: silverspawn on February 17, 2016, 07:36:22 am

These are the kinds of moments where I'm reminded how insanely hard this game is.

I tentatively like Lekkit for having gone completely unnoticed so far.

Let's put up a totally uninformed reads list that will be completely terrible. Or maybe it will be great?

2,71...
Ampharos
RR
chairs
WW
faust
ADK
Egork
Awaclus
Lekkit

The IC sure looks plenty scummy in your list.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1019 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:48:30 am »

I'm not taking any blame for that. If we have an IC, he clearly doesn't have enough presence, so it's his fault.

faust · « **Reply #1020 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:49:16 am »

Request prod on Lekkit

It's been more than 48 hours.

faust · « **Reply #1021 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:49:54 am »

Quote from: silverspawn on February 17, 2016, 07:38:49 am

At this point into fds meta, I think you can start giving scum points for throwing votes at completely random people when you're a big wagon, rather than supporting another big wagon yourself.

I tentatively agree on this.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1022 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:52:17 am »

Okay, that moves ADK to the top. Below me, though. I'm at the very top in such a bright green that you can't tell it apart from the background.

Anyway, out of the existing wagons, Egork is much preferable to chairs. And really, one of them was on wagon and one was off. Not just on, he was second. That wagon is scummy business, even if the IC is on it.

Haddock · « **Reply #1023 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:53:29 am »

Quote from: faust on February 17, 2016, 07:49:16 am

Request prod on Lekkit

Sent.

Haddock · « **Reply #1024 on:** February 17, 2016, 07:55:52 am »

Vote Count 2.7

Beans, beans, good for the heart.

RR (2): Lekkit, Awaclus
chairs (3): Ampharos, faust, ADK
Egor (5): RR, WW, chairs, 2.7, SS (L-1)
SS (1): EgorK

Not Voting (0):

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