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[Haddock]

Vote Count 1.1

Too many cooks spoil the broth.

yuma (3): Awaclus, faust, gkrieg13.
Awaclus (2): chairs, silverspawn.
faust (2): Roadrunner7671, yuma.

Not Voting (6): A Drowned Kernel, EgorK, Hydrad, Lekkit, Teproc, Witherweaver.

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end on Tuesday, February 9, at 1 pm forum time.

[silverspawn]

What? 

That's what I thought too, but does that really make yuma scummy?

[Hydrad]

oh hey this game started!

welp. I'm going to sleep now.

see you guys tomorrow.

[silverspawn]

we have weird wagons, right now. None of them is really good.

How about vote: ADK?

[EgorK]

we have weird wagons, right now. None of them is really good.

How about vote: ADK?

Is it soft claim?

Vote: ADK then

I seriously think that we should forbid self-voting by the rules. Board game RMM was much more pleasant (though I understand that there this was required by setup)

[silverspawn]

Is it soft claim?

no!!

I mean vote: Hydrad

[silverspawn]

Just someone who isn't yuma or Awaclus or faust or ADK or Teproc

[Teproc]

Just someone who isn't yuma or Awaclus or faust or ADK or Teproc

What makes Hydrad a better choice than Awaclus ? Or anyone else who isn't ADK for that matter, why are these options bad ?

[EgorK]

Hm, ok

Vote: yuma

You said yourself in recent game that you was mislynched once. Now you say that you are easy to be manipulated into self destruction?

[Awaclus]

What? 

That's what I thought too, but does that really make yuma scummy?

Yes. Whenever I think "What? ", it makes that person scummy.

[Teproc]

Yuma being paranoid is townie if anything.

[silverspawn]

Just someone who isn't yuma or Awaclus or faust or ADK or Teproc

What makes Hydrad a better choice than Awaclus ? Or anyone else who isn't ADK for that matter, why are these options bad ?

faust is obvious

I agree that yuma being paranoid makes him townie. In his last scum game he was just generally desinterested. Also I think the way he pulled this on an emotional level... was pretty unjustified. I don't think scum right now is likely to blatantly fake an emotional reaction like this (even though it would be good play), and I think they're less likely to really have it. This felt like town!yuma thinking he's being discredited. Also calling them scum is a bit extreme for a scum play.

Awaclus gets sympathy points for agreeing with me. Okay, this isn't a good reason. I could vote for him again.

And you had your town slip. Town slips are real.

[silverspawn]

What? 

That's what I thought too, but does that really make yuma scummy?

Yes. Whenever I think "What? ", it makes that person scummy.

I don't think this generally works out well, neither in theory nor historically. The common wisdom is actually the opposite: that town is more likely to do crazy things. Do you really disagree with that?

[Teproc]

I guess the "faust is obvious part" is that you don't lynch faust on day 1 ?

I have no such qualms, but I get that. Actually I think I agree... not about never lycnhing faust d1, but about this :

vote: Hydrad

[Awaclus]

I don't think this generally works out well, neither in theory nor historically. The common wisdom is actually the opposite: that town is more likely to do crazy things. Do you really disagree with that?

Yes.

[silverspawn]

I guess the "faust is obvious part" is that you don't lynch faust on day 1 ?

no, not radically. I could lynch him if I had a strong scum read. It just needs to be a bit stronger than maybe it does on average, and right now he's null to mild town, so it doesn't look likely.

vote: Hydrad

really? hasn't he only made one post?

[faust]

As tempting as it would be to do the post thing again or to do something even less anti-town, self vote, I won't.

Vote: Faust

I think one or both of he and teproc is scum. I get the vibe of them trying to push me out of being level headed and see if they can get me/town to self destruct for an easy day1 lynch where they can point the blame at me afterward. And as fun as that sounds, i always play toward my win con despite beliefs to the contary. Right now I think Faust is more likely. But I could go either way.

You seem to think that I am one big asshole. I don't know what made you feel this way, and if I acted towards you in a way that was rude or otherwise inappropriate, I am sorry.

I am sure we can discuss our recent differences in a couple of hours, if you feel that this is necessary.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't think Yuma freaking out and omgus'ing is indicative of alignment either way.

On the other v hand I like vote: gkrieg for jumping on the Yuma wagon in a super scummy fashion.

[yuma]

Vote: yuma

This going to be another one of those scenarios where you tunnel me to the point of doing nothing else and force me to hammer you...? yeah. I said it. That hammer in Marvel was intentional. I lied back there to stay alive. I am willing to do it again...

[yuma]

Hm, ok

Vote: yuma

You said yourself in recent game that you was mislynched once. Now you say that you are easy to be manipulated into self destruction?

I have been mislynched once. This is true and I am proud of it. But I have also shown of late that I am easily manipulated to have emotional reactions and it has been shown of late that f.DS hates and finds emotional reactions scummy and easy to lynch. I don't know if that means I am easy to lynch, but I think that scum could see it as a viable strategy to take.

[yuma]

I don't feel like I am being paranoid. I feel like I am calling it as I see it with the available information that is currently available.

[yuma]

As tempting as it would be to do the post thing again or to do something even less anti-town, self vote, I won't.

Vote: Faust

I think one or both of he and teproc is scum. I get the vibe of them trying to push me out of being level headed and see if they can get me/town to self destruct for an easy day1 lynch where they can point the blame at me afterward. And as fun as that sounds, i always play toward my win con despite beliefs to the contary. Right now I think Faust is more likely. But I could go either way.

You seem to think that I am one big asshole. I don't know what made you feel this way, and if I acted towards you in a way that was rude or otherwise inappropriate, I am sorry.

I am sure we can discuss our recent differences in a couple of hours, if you feel that this is necessary.

I don't think you are anything and you certainly don't need to apologize. Someone can feel frustrated with another player for reasons that aren't rude/mean/whatever. But I do think you know that right now there are certain buttons that can be pushed (not in a mean way, just in general conversation) that are more likely to push me having a response that I could see being beneficial to scum!you.

[Awaclus]

This going to be another one of those scenarios where you tunnel me to the point of doing nothing else and force me to hammer you...? yeah. I said it. That hammer in Marvel was intentional. I lied back there to stay alive. I am willing to do it again...

Well, it wasn't one of those scenarios when I voted for you, but it's slowly starting to become one.

But it's not too late. You have the power to change it.

[yuma]

This going to be another one of those scenarios where you tunnel me to the point of doing nothing else and force me to hammer you...? yeah. I said it. That hammer in Marvel was intentional. I lied back there to stay alive. I am willing to do it again...

Well, it wasn't one of those scenarios when I voted for you, but it's slowly starting to become one.

But it's not too late. You have the power to change it.

I do? You mean, things I do change how you respond/react? Fascinating!

[gkrieg13]

I don't think Yuma freaking out and omgus'ing is indicative of alignment either way.

On the other v hand I like vote: gkrieg for jumping on the Yuma wagon in a super scummy fashion.

How was that a super scummy fashion?

yuma started doing his post thing, which he did last time as town IIRC, so it would be perfect for him to do it as scum this game

PPE