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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2125 on: December 15, 2016, 11:34:57 am »
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Awaclus's country probably couldn't even declare war because some lackey didn't want to do the paperwork involved. Freaking Red Tape.

I mean, the US doesn't really declare war, just sends people everywhere. But this is starting to get too RSP for random stuff

Awaclus is from Finland, not from the US.

Yes, but seprix is from the US. I was going more of a "red tape is restrictive, but not always a bad thing" by comparing to the US. Every country has its own faults.

I was wondering if that's what you meant, but then I thought if you did that sentence would have an 'also' in it :P

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« Reply #2126 on: December 15, 2016, 12:53:28 pm »
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I was wondering if that's what you meant, but then I thought if you did that sentence would have an 'also' in it :P

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2127 on: December 15, 2016, 06:07:46 pm »
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"More fun than playing Monopoly!"

Though possibly this belongs in the math(s) thread.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2128 on: December 15, 2016, 06:20:32 pm »
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That reminds me. In my YouTube "Recommended" videos there's one titled something like "What actually happens when you land on Free Parking in Monopoly?" and it goes for eight minutes. Eight. Minutes. I don't plan on watching it but I'm really hoping that it starts with someone saying "Nothing." and then just has eight minutes of muzac.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2129 on: December 16, 2016, 07:59:47 am »
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That reminds me. In my YouTube "Recommended" videos there's one titled something like "What actually happens when you land on Free Parking in Monopoly?" and it goes for eight minutes. Eight. Minutes. I don't plan on watching it but I'm really hoping that it starts with someone saying "Nothing." and then just has eight minutes of muzac.

That's one reason I almost always ignore videos now. Too many people think they're more clever and interesting than they really are, so they make some six-minute video about a topic that can be handled with only 30 seconds of reading. He could literally just read from cue cards for 30 seconds, and it'd have been a much better use of all of our time than that video.

It doesn't help that many of these videos aren't edited or scripted, so it's just someone saying um and ah a lot punctuated with uncomfortable pauses.

Maybe the eight-minute video about Free Parking starts off with, "nothing," and then categorically describes why the game is made worse by adding even more money to the system.

But I'm sure it could also turn out to be another unscripted, unedited morass of stumbling through words.

Also, I can just read about Free Parking rather than listen to someone talk about it.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2130 on: December 16, 2016, 08:12:28 am »
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That reminds me. In my YouTube "Recommended" videos there's one titled something like "What actually happens when you land on Free Parking in Monopoly?" and it goes for eight minutes. Eight. Minutes. I don't plan on watching it but I'm really hoping that it starts with someone saying "Nothing." and then just has eight minutes of muzac.
This came up on my Youtube list as well. Not planning on watching it.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2131 on: December 16, 2016, 11:52:20 am »
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All right, I've sacrificed myself for you guys and watched the video.

While it takes a minute or so to get to "Nothing," the intro says that it's about all the things you're doing wrong.  Then it covers basically all the bad house rules people use (including some I'd never heard of, and wondered what people were thinking), tells you the real rules, etc.  It does discuss the reasoning behind not using house rules--every single one of them prolongs the game or increases the chance of fist-fights.  And of course using the real rules to your advantage can really increase your win chances.

Also, fun line (paraphrasing):  "You can sit in jail, and if you're rich enough, you can just continue to do business as usual, much like in real life."

It doesn't help that many of these videos aren't edited or scripted, so it's just someone saying um and ah a lot punctuated with uncomfortable pauses.

This one was definitely scripted.  I think most of what I watch on YT is scripted--certainly the best informative Tubers out there are working form scripts.  The only one I watch who doesn't is Brady Haran, and in general, because he's talking with actual mathematicians and scientists, they actually get to the point (although Cliff Stoll, for instance, rambles some).
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2132 on: December 16, 2016, 01:36:30 pm »
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If you're really good at monopoly, you might reach a 52% winrate against someone who only plays casually! And maybe a 50.5% winrate against someone who's examined the mechanics for 5 minutes.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2133 on: December 16, 2016, 01:59:53 pm »
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If you're really good at monopoly, you might reach a 52% winrate against someone who only plays casually! And maybe a 50.5% winrate against someone who's examined the mechanics for 5 minutes.

But only the real geniuses among us can increase their odds at Candyland.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2134 on: December 16, 2016, 02:07:41 pm »
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If you're really good at monopoly, you might reach a 52% winrate against someone who only plays casually! And maybe a 50.5% winrate against someone who's examined the mechanics for 5 minutes.

That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing the other players to let you go first, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2135 on: December 16, 2016, 02:17:55 pm »
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If you're really good at monopoly, you might reach a 52% winrate against someone who only plays casually! And maybe a 50.5% winrate against someone who's examined the mechanics for 5 minutes.

That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing the other players to let you go first, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

Then there is the ability to convince someone to give you a monopoly in orange for the low, low price of Boardwalk.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2136 on: December 16, 2016, 02:19:21 pm »
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All right, I've sacrificed myself for you guys and watched the video.

While it takes a minute or so to get to "Nothing," the intro says that it's about all the things you're doing wrong.  Then it covers basically all the bad house rules people use (including some I'd never heard of, and wondered what people were thinking), tells you the real rules, etc.  It does discuss the reasoning behind not using house rules--every single one of them prolongs the game or increases the chance of fist-fights.  And of course using the real rules to your advantage can really increase your win chances.

Also, fun line (paraphrasing):  "You can sit in jail, and if you're rich enough, you can just continue to do business as usual, much like in real life."

Awesome. I'm going to go watch the video. It sounds interesting.

And I do get a chuckle out of people who insist that you get no money while you're in jail. No, this actually does mirror real life. I would argue that in real life it's not actually a desirable choice, but late in the game, you want to sit in jail for as long as possible.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2137 on: December 16, 2016, 02:19:42 pm »
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If you're really good at monopoly, you might reach a 52% winrate against someone who only plays casually! And maybe a 50.5% winrate against someone who's examined the mechanics for 5 minutes.

That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing the other players to let you go first, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

Getting first certainly doesn't get you anywhere near 99,5%.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2138 on: December 16, 2016, 03:19:40 pm »
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If you're really good at monopoly, you might reach a 52% winrate against someone who only plays casually! And maybe a 50.5% winrate against someone who's examined the mechanics for 5 minutes.

That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing the other players to let you go first, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

Getting first certainly doesn't get you anywhere near 99,5%.

How about something like 90-93%?

In all seriousness though, it's not overly amazing to be first (although it is a very significant advantage), but it super sucks to be last if there are more players.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2139 on: December 16, 2016, 03:25:46 pm »
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That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing the other players to let you be the banker, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

FTFY
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2140 on: December 16, 2016, 07:39:55 pm »
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That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing people to play Dominion instead, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

FTFY
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2141 on: December 16, 2016, 11:51:35 pm »
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it super sucks to be last if there are more players.

Yeah, that probably isn't a guaranteed death sentence for you, but you're going to have an uphill battle unless the dice are somehow in your favor.

I suppose if I were to play Monopoly, I'd consider a house rule to help out those going later. Perhaps if you do not own any properties when you take your first turn, you are allowed a number of rerolls equal to the number of players that went before you. These rerolls can only be spent to avoid landing on property that's already bought. If your final reroll puts you on one, then you have to accept it. If a roll of doubles puts you on someone's property and you accept the result, you cannot use a reroll on subsequent rolls that turn.

It's still swingy as hell since you could still just land on income tax or a card that screws you over, but you at least have a chance of not getting too screwed by the people before you.

But I'll probably never see that rule implemented. I'm not opposed to playing Monopoly, but when you hang out with board gamers, they usually suggest playing better games.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2142 on: December 17, 2016, 03:04:57 am »
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That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing people to play Dominion instead, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

FTFY

I want to see the guy who has 99,5% winrate in dominion against a casual player.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2143 on: December 17, 2016, 10:51:31 am »
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That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing people to play Dominion instead, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

FTFY

I want to see the guy who has 99,5% winrate in dominion against a casual player.

That just means that you have a 99.5% chance of winning Monopoly by playing Dominion instead.

The 0.5% comes from those rare moments when you open a Dominion box and find that some asshole stuffed Monopoly in it instead.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2144 on: December 17, 2016, 11:08:02 am »
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That highly depends though. If you've mastered the most important skill at Monopoly, which is convincing people to play Dominion instead, you can reach a 99.5% win rate against anyone!

FTFY

I want to see the guy who has 99,5% winrate in dominion against a casual player.

That just means that you have a 99.5% chance of winning Monopoly by playing Dominion instead.

The 0.5% comes from those rare moments when you open a Dominion box and find that some asshole stuffed Monopoly in it instead.

This is a good 1st of April joke!
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2145 on: December 20, 2016, 02:40:02 pm »
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2146 on: December 20, 2016, 06:34:44 pm »
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2147 on: December 20, 2016, 08:24:05 pm »
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Wait...

D10-1 is equal to D8

D6+1 is equal to D8

Is a roll of D10-1 as good as a roll of D6+1?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2148 on: December 20, 2016, 08:38:29 pm »
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Wait...

D10-1 is equal to D8

D6+1 is equal to D8

Is a roll of D10-1 as good as a roll of D6+1?

yup

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #2149 on: December 20, 2016, 08:42:48 pm »
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Wait...

D10-1 is equal to D8

D6+1 is equal to D8

Is a roll of D10-1 as good as a roll of D6+1?

yup
That's crazy!
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