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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #675 on: December 17, 2015, 10:48:20 am »

I'd like re-reads of yuma by everyone, including yuma.
I will do this, but I'm upset that you make an anti-town play then expect us to comply to your demands.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #676 on: December 17, 2015, 11:10:57 am »

I'd like re-reads of yuma by everyone, including yuma.
I will do this, but I'm upset that you make an anti-town play then expect us to comply to your demands.

Oh well.  That's the price you pay to have an IC that cares.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 1)
« Reply #677 on: December 17, 2015, 11:53:02 am »

Okay, ash mentions day 2

ashersky:
  claims he will counterclaim anyone that claims treeson.  Could mean that he is treeson.  Could mean he is ash.
  votes for ss
  wants the hammer on ss
  calls two 3-person scum teams with Joseph on each of them.  Calls everyone but Hydrad, RR, and me on one of the teams.
  Says he would've hammered RR.
  votes RR for not voting for Joseph ever
  goes back to voting for ss
  asks for a mass claim
D2:
  votes for RR
  Revotes for RR for having the fake "I thought we lynched gkrieg instead of Joseph"
 

Interesting thing here is that there isn't that much substance to his posts.  There isn't any theory talk to be had, so that might be one reason.  He only votes for RR and ss, both people he has a history of voting for.  He might be trying to emulate his meta, or he might just think they are scum this game.  Overall null read on him.  Nothing too scummy, and nothing too towny.

that is sort of non-commital while painting you as scummy, but I agree with the post, so I can't really give scum points for it

ash actually comes off scummiest in your rereads. vote: ash

ah. did I mention that I agreed with him?

oh nice rereads! you get town points for that. like 134.6 points.

judging by your rereads I kinda agree with silver here and like Vote: ash the most.

this is prob worse, but not by much.

I'm getting an increasingly scummy feeling on ashersky. And kgriek seems a lot townier after the rereads.

Hydras is different than I'd expect, less active and more.. subdued. I still feel RR is town because he feels like town, not really what he says but how he says it. Awaclus has been a voice of reason
all game, my intuition has been to trust it but that's probably wrong.


Calling ash-awaclus for the alphabetical scum team.

now this is actually bad.

then yuma dismisses your case on me

I think ashersky might be scum here.

this is null

I think ashersky might be scum here.

I agree!

this I'd say makes the above hydrad thing null, too

This is too many people agreeing too fast here.  I think this makes me feel townier about ash.

interesting

then I say your wagon ramps up too quickly and switch to Eevee. that's obv!town



The biggest things I'm taking away from this are a scum read on Eevee and a town read on gkrieg. I think I'm voting for Eevee already? but not sure. v0te: Eeevee

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #678 on: December 17, 2015, 12:14:48 pm »

Unofficial Vote Count 3.3:

Eevee (2): silverspawn, Joseph2302
Awaclus (1): Hydrad
Roadrunner7671 (1): gkrieg13

Not Voting (5): Awaclus, yuma, Eevee, Roadrunner7671, ashersky

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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #679 on: December 17, 2015, 01:08:23 pm »

I'd like re-reads of yuma by everyone, including yuma.
I will do this, but I'm upset that you make an anti-town play then expect us to comply to your demands.

Oh well.  That's the price you pay to have an IC that cares.
Better than the other IC, who hasn't done anything...
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #680 on: December 17, 2015, 02:13:56 pm »

I'd like re-reads of yuma by everyone, including yuma.
I will do this, but I'm upset that you make an anti-town play then expect us to comply to your demands.

Oh well.  That's the price you pay to have an IC that cares.
Better than the other IC, who hasn't done anything...

Come play!
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #681 on: December 17, 2015, 03:16:15 pm »

V0te: Gkrieg
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #682 on: December 17, 2015, 05:28:32 pm »

I'd like re-reads of yuma by everyone, including yuma.
I will do this, but I'm upset that you make an anti-town play then expect us to comply to your demands.

Oh well.  That's the price you pay to have an IC that cares.
Better than the other IC, who hasn't done anything...

Come play!
I'm on annual leave from work starting tomorrow, until 4 Jan, so should be more active.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #683 on: December 17, 2015, 06:38:17 pm »

starting homework:

ash stuff:

Please, everyone still alive, go back and retread any post interacting with my, discussing me, disparaging me, etc. with that in mind.

I promise you scum finds me to be an easy player to call scummy without needing much to back it while also knowing I'm not THAT likely to get lynched.

ash votes for ss - back and forth with him for a bit

Joseph jokes about Kim Jung-Un, back and forth vote disintegrating into RVS

silver comments about how it went back to RVS

ash put ss at L-1

ash calls eevee-yuma team or ss-awa team with joseph as third

eevee asks ash if he has any theory ideas about the setup, says ash finds scum in people that posted recently

awaclus says ash/ss faked townslips

eevee talks about how doesn't think it possible to think there were 3 scum in 9 player game

ss reiterates that it is unlikely that ash forgot about the 2 scum setup thing

ash explains that he made that assumption after ss talked about it first, silver buys that explanation

I say in response to eevee that ash not talking setup is unusual, eevee responds that ash hadn't read the setup

ash says he would have hammered RR

ash says there wasn't any setup theory to talk about, ash states joseph is town since only 2 scum on the team

back and forth with RR about RR being town and not on scum teams ash predicted

ash/ss have a back and forth about RR's defense

ash calls awaclus unhelpful

bakc and forth with RR about whether or not he is scum

awaclus not ok with an ash lynch

gkrieg doesn't respond to ash asking why he voted for gkrieg

RR refuses to vote for Joseph, ash votes him- have back and forth

ash votes for ss - worst case he is a tree stump IC, suggests mass claim - awaclus says no

Day2:

Discussion about how the treestump should vote with awaclus and ss

ashs says rr's confusion about the lynch is fake, votes RR, revotes him after RR responds

(PS) I figured out why I can't see Eevee's avatar. It only occurs when I am at work. I think my company blocks the site that is hosting the picture, or the site that Eevee obtained the picture from... or something. Cause I can see it at my house and I can't see other pictures on f.DS occassionally when at work)

gkrieg rereads ash - calling out lack of substance and only voting for RR and ss

ss says ash comes off scummiest from gkrieg's reread, talks to ash about lurking til something controversial comes up. talk about that concept, talks more about how ash always suspects ss

hydrad votes ash from gkrieg's reread

grammar mistake debate (glossing over this again)

eevee has increasinly scummy reads on ashersky

ash says he looks forward to driving everyone crazy when town (hasn't happened yet ash...)

i say I don't like ash's case on ss from the grammar stuff above

rr says ash might be scum

eevee votes for ash

gkrieg says too many people agreeing, makes him feel townier on ash

ash says I should know him too well to think he would do this... still not sure what the "this" was...

rr votes for ash

ash calls out eevee for the historical record thing

I vote for ash

gkrieg intents to hammer...

ash self votes

tl:dr

This was really weird. I kept needing to remind myself that ash wasn't scum as generally we do rereads of dead players when they are scum looking for partners. Not as much looking for interactions with dead town players... maybe we should. This will be interesting case study to see if this is effective or not for future rereads in future games....

So things I noticed: awaclus was pretty much absent from anything surrounding the ash getting lynch discussion. He just kinda avoided it all together. Everyone else was involved somehow... gkrieg starting the case (but not voting), hydrad, eevee following the case and voting (ss too, but he eventually unvoted), I voted and then ash hammered... I think scum!awaclus does something there. I don't know what... but I dont' think he completely ignores it.

gkrieg I found perplexing. started the case which gets others to vote, but doesn't vote himself. says he sees him townier, but then intents to hammer... There are some players that I think could have a scum narrative for this behavior, but I don't think gkrieg fits that mold.

i would say eevee/hydrad are most suspect. they use gkrieg's case for a vote, but apparently aren't concerned that the person who created it isn't voting. I don't know if they are both scum here, but they both responded pretty similarly (ss did as well, but eventually left the wagon, so I don't know if this applies as much to him). That makes me feel like they are less concerned about whether or not the case was created with genuinity or not and more about whether or not it was a safe place for their vote.

Based off this alone I would be more likely to vote for one of them, but would probably want to look closer at both to determine which one...

But first I get to reread myself in the next little bit...? Yay!
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #684 on: December 17, 2015, 06:57:25 pm »

Day two is ending soon, I don't really want an Eevee lynch, but it won't cause me to lose sleep or anything.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #685 on: December 17, 2015, 07:41:55 pm »

how many days do we have?
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #686 on: December 17, 2015, 07:42:33 pm »

Day two is ending soon, I don't really want an Eevee lynch, but it won't cause me to lose sleep or anything.

Why not?  He has a great case on him!
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #687 on: December 17, 2015, 07:56:35 pm »

[/color]
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 3 will end on December 22 at 4:30PM forum time.[/color]

We still have like 5 days. No worries.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #688 on: December 17, 2015, 08:01:16 pm »

[/color]
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 3 will end on December 22 at 4:30PM forum time.[/color]

We still have like 5 days. No worries.
Oh, I found December 18 and got all panicky.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #689 on: December 17, 2015, 08:02:00 pm »

Day two is ending soon, I don't really want an Eevee lynch, but it won't cause me to lose sleep or anything.

Why not?  He has a great case on him!
Great? Can you tell me the 'great' part? The case is fairly solid, but I wouldn't throw words around like 'great.'
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #690 on: December 17, 2015, 08:34:46 pm »

Ok maybe not great, but I want to hear your reasoning for not wanting to lynch him.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #691 on: December 17, 2015, 08:40:13 pm »

Ok maybe not great, but I want to hear your reasoning for not wanting to lynch him.
Because I don't see him as scum. It's not clear to me. This is probably because I have never played with Eevee, but I just don't see it.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #692 on: December 17, 2015, 10:50:33 pm »

Reread of me...

I'd like re-reads of yuma by everyone, including yuma.

- RVS implying scum team is awaclus/ss followed by a vote

- flavor discussion with ss

- voted eevee for suspecting ss because he didn't say he was town in his defense and because it focused on what wasn't said rather that what was said

- states lack of setup discussion by ash is unusual

- talks about RR's use of emoticons. Found multiple as a reaction slightly scummy

- talks with RR about his meta

- felt joseph was scummy from his reaction in regard to the ss wagon, I think, and then votes him

- silly talk with RR about sheep

- talks with RR more about his meta and then with ss about voting for joseph

Day2

- states concern with the IC voting plan

- notes that RR said he thought we lynched gkrieg instead of joseph

- stops following grammar argument

- responds to ss asking about ash's case on him.

- votes eevee cause eevee wanted non voters to vote

- responds to eevee's post asks who to vote for

- votes ashersky

Day3

- asks when assignment is due

- responds to ss about misguided suspicion over doing the assignment

- does the ash assignment

- does the other ash assignment

- comments about doing the ash assignment
- comments about commenting about doing the ash assignment
- comments about commenting about commenting about the ash assignment
- comments about commenting about commenting about commenting about doing the ash assignment

So obviously I am town...
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #693 on: December 17, 2015, 10:52:35 pm »

PS: that was also really weird. I haven't fully reread myself like that in a game before (at least not while it was in process. I don't know if I did a very good job though as I wasn't really sure what the purpose was for me... But if it works or helps somehow maybe I'll do it again at some point in another game as town.
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #694 on: December 17, 2015, 10:53:34 pm »

Wow Yuma, you talked to RR a lot. So now perhaps you have an accurate read on him (nudge, nudge)?
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #695 on: December 17, 2015, 10:57:01 pm »

Wow Yuma, you talked to RR a lot. So now perhaps you have an accurate read on him (nudge, nudge)?

only one way to find out!
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #696 on: December 17, 2015, 11:08:52 pm »

Wow Yuma, you talked to RR a lot. So now perhaps you have an accurate read on him (nudge, nudge)?

only one way to find out!
Should I claim?
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #697 on: December 18, 2015, 12:07:51 am »

Yuma's rereads were convincing.  But I think I wanna v0te: Hydrad from them
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #698 on: December 18, 2015, 02:13:52 am »

oh boy rereads... I guess i'm not allowed to just read their rereads and use that...
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Re: M73: Forest Fire (Day 3)
« Reply #699 on: December 18, 2015, 02:24:20 am »

oh boy rereads... I guess i'm not allowed to just read their rereads and use that...
This seems scummy, just wanting to copy others rather than forming your own opinion.
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