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[iguanaiguana]

Ok, finished reread. Nothing that was not discussed stand out. Defends yuma, votes for Amph almost through entire game. Okish D1 lynch, but I hope we can do better

Remind me who you're talking about again?

He's talking about e

[iguanaiguana]

Is it relevent?

Yes. I think so.

Okay. Then I am Iron Man. You guys can speculate-I could be bulletproof/immune to one night kill, I could be rich (if that's a thing) I could possibly be loveable.

I'll mine as well put that out there, I don't think it's relevant.

He's Iron man, the hiding semi-beloved princess!

[Roadrunner7671]

Is it relevent?

Yes. I think so.

Okay. Then I am Iron Man. You guys can speculate-I could be bulletproof/immune to one night kill, I could be rich (if that's a thing) I could possibly be loveable.

I'll mine as well put that out there, I don't think it's relevant.

He's Iron man, the hiding semi-beloved princess!

Oh snap!

[Ampharos]

Definately the majority sound like they do not want you to shoot. 

I do not see why you would do so, when there is a high chance that you hit town.  That and no one has even acknowledged whenI said you could hit town power role.  Just dont shoot, its a terrible idea.  We dont need multiple reads, just one.

[Witherweaver]

Having PRs and not using them is lame!

[silverspawn]

Having PRs and not using them is lame!

good argument.

oh wait it's a shitty argument.

[Hydrad]

Having PRs and not using them is lame!

good argument.

oh wait it's a shitty argument.

But I kinda feel the same way! I believe in you yuma unless you shoot me. Then don't.

[Witherweaver]

I just thought of a point against shooting, or at least publicly announcing.  If scum has any kind of redirection, bus driving, whatever, they can essentially control Yuma's kill.

[silverspawn]

I just thought of a point against shooting, or at least publicly announcing.  If scum has any kind of redirection, bus driving, whatever, they can essentially control Yuma's kill.

I thought about that too, and I don't think it's the case. The ability is presumably not targeted, so it shouldn't be able to be redirected.

[faust]

I want to get a better grasp at what's happened so far without rereading everything, so I'll look at voting patterns. Lets see where this leads:

Wagons

Witherweaver
+Awaclus(1), +silver(2), -silver, -Awaclus
yuma
+iguana(1), -iguana, +RR(1), -RR, +silver(1), -silver, +Awaclus(1), +Teproc(2), +faust(3), +Ampharos(4), +RR(5), -Teproc, -Ampharos, +silver(4)
silverspawn
+yuma(1), +WW(2), +Egor(3), -Egor, +Hydrad(3), +faust(4), +iguana(5), +Awaclus(6), -Awaclus, -iguana, -faust, Haddock(4), -WW, -Haddock, -yuma, +yuma(2), -yuma, +RR(2), +WW(3), +yuma(4), -Hydrad, -yuma, -WW, +yuma(2), -RR, +Haddock(2), -Haddock, -yuma
Teproc
+Haddock(1), -Haddock, +Ampharos(1), -Ampharos
iguanaiguana
+silverspawn(1), +Teproc(2), +faust(3), +Egor(4), -silver, -faust, -Egor, +Awaclus(2), -Awaclus, +silver(2), +Hydrad(3), -Teproc, -silver, -Hydrad
Hydrad
+Egor(1), -Egor, +silver(1), -silver, +Teproc(1), +yuma(2), -yuma, -Teproc
Roadrunner7671
+iguana(1), -iguana, +Egor(1), +RR(2), -RR, +yuma(2), -yuma, -Egor
2.7...
+Hydrad(1), -Hydrad, +Egor(1), +Teproc(2), +WW(3)
faust
+silver(1), -silver, +Ampharos(1), -Ampharos
Ampharos
+silver(1), -silver, +silver(1), +iguana(2), +faust(3), +RR(4), -silver, -iguana, -RR, +e(2), +WW(3), +silver(4), -faust, -WW, -e, +faust(2), +Hydrad(3), -faust, +WW(3), +e(4), -WW, +yuma(4), +WW(5), -WW, -silver
EgorK
+silverspawn(1), -silverspawn, +faust(1), +Haddock(2), -faust, +yuma(2), +iguana(3), -yuma, +faust(3), +RR(4), -Haddock, +Teproc(4), -faust, +Haddock(4), -Teproc, -RR
Awaclus
+RR(1), -RR, +iguana(1), -iguana, +silver(1), -silver, +WW(1), +e(2), -WW, -e, +WW(1), -WW
Haddock
+WW(1), +silver(2), -silver, -WW

Individual voting patterns

Witherweaver: silverspawn(1), Haddock(1), silver(3), Ampharos(3), Awaclus(1), Ampharos(3), Awaclus(1), Ampharos(5), e(3)
yuma: silverspawn(1), Egor(2), silver(2), RR(2), silver(4), Hydrad(2), silver(2), Ampharos(4)
silverspawn: EgorK(1), iguana(1), faust(1), Ampharos(1), WW(2), Ampharos(1), Awaclus(1), Haddock(2), Hydrad(1), iguana(2), yuma(1), Ampharos(4), yuma(4)
Teproc: iguana(2), Hydrad(1), Egor(4), yuma(2), e(2)
iguanaiguana: yuma(1), RR(1), silverspawn(5), Awaclus(1), Ampharos(2), Egor(3)
Hydrad: e(1), silver(3), iguana(3), Ampharos(3)
Roadrunner7671: Awaclus(1), Ampharos(4), RR(2), yuma(1), silver(2), Egor(4), yuma(5)
2.7...: Ampharos(2), Awaclus(2), Ampharos(4)
faust: iguana(3), silverspawn(4), Egor(1), Ampharos(3), Egor(3), Ampharos(2), yuma(3)
Ampharos: Teproc(1), faust(1), yuma(4)
EgorK: silverspawn(3), iguana(4), Hydrad(1), RR(1), e(1)
Awaclus: silver(6), iguana(2), WW(1), yuma(1)
Haddock: Teproc(1), silver(4), Egor(2), silver(2), Egor(4)

[faust]

And something I stumbled upon:

Good. Am I correct in assuming you are back yuma ?

If so, let's move on

vote: 2.7

He's trying very, very hard to be reasonable. Everything he says is carefully measured... of course some play this way as town too, and 2.7 certainly isn't the most impulsive player out there, but he's not that measured, not that I can remembered.

You previously said your yuma vote wasn't policy. Why are you backing off as soon as he reappears?

[faust]

Things of note:

- 4 players have gotten basically no scrutiny: WW, Teproc, me, Haddock. Now Teproc I kind of get. I am of course town. But why is nobody interested in Haddock and WW? They're not particularly towny, are they?

- it is amazing how the silver wagon reached L-1 and now noone's even voting there. How about that? How do people feel about silver now?

- Ampharos gives me a "hard to lynch" feel. A bunch of people voted for him, but it never got really dangerous.

- it's weird how for a very long time, silver has only first and second votes on people. It looks as though he is partly to blame for not getting real wagons earlier, because he always hopped off when things got serious. I'm not sure scum plans that kind of thing though.

- I dislike Ampharos's voing pattern. Very few votes, and all on players who are not really going to be lynched.

[faust]

Back to vote:Ampharos I think.

[faust]

Vote: Ampharos for syntax.

[yuma]

Vote: Ampharos for syntax.

i'm not feeling that lynch as much anymore

[yuma]

and I guess I am not shooting anymore.

[faust]

Vote: Ampharos for syntax.

i'm not feeling that lynch as much anymore

Any alternative proposals?

[faust]

and I guess I am not shooting anymore.

Hm. I still think it's better to shoot, but the world doesn't end if you don't.

[yuma]

Vote: Ampharos for syntax.

i'm not feeling that lynch as much anymore

Any alternative proposals?

Lots I would think....

Let's go backwards: 2.7 and iguana are pretty strong town reads. I don't think lynching RR is a good idea. WW seems like a bad lynch

I still think ss is scummy, but should feel bad for feeling that way and guess I don't want to go down that road.

I could lynch you or teproc but I don't see that happening.

hydrad looks like it would be a lurker lynch and nothing else. Haddock seems kinda townie? So does ampharos at this point...

so that leaves Egork, ss as mentioned, and you know who.

So that leaves those three.

vote: awaclus cause apparently I like to OMGUS this game

[yuma]

actually let's do

vote: egork

there haven't been any tells coming from the other direction and I didn't like how egork tried to previously use GOP mafia against my case on him.

[Ampharos]

Back to vote:Ampharos I think.

And Iiiiiiiiieeiiii will always love youuuuuuuuuuUUUUuuUuUuuuuu

[yuma]

actually let's do

vote: egork

there haven't been any tells coming from the other direction and I didn't like how egork tried to previously use GOP mafia against my case on him.

Ugh I don't like this vote very much either...

Ummmmm.... Vote: teproc?

[silverspawn]

But why is nobody interested in Haddock and WW?

I am

But I'll ask again, would people support a Haddock lynch? Or a WW lynch?

good question though!

[iguanaiguana]

I can't believe that D1 of this game is now approaching 1200 posts. Has there ever been a game like this before? This is so so crazy.

I'm seriously getting exhausted with it. I'm starting to feel like scum just wins here because everyone looks the same.

I mean even if we do get a scum flip, then we have to go back and look at 1200 posts of stuff to figure out their partners. So crazy.

I feel demoralized.

[faust]

But why is nobody interested in Haddock and WW?

I am

But I'll ask again, would people support a Haddock lynch? Or a WW lynch?

good question though!

Huh, okay. I'm not opposed to that lynch. Can you tell me why I should vote for them?