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[Ampharos]

The gambit would be to intentionally get into an argument, get pretend upset, leave, gain invincibility through AtE, and come back later.  I'm not sure how legit that possibility is since you already claimed, but it still is a possibility.  It's also a very low-blow play, so I'd like to assume you wouldn't try it, but I've seen it before.

Ok vote: ampharos I would like to be lynched for reasons that are great than a possibility, whatever that means. I think pushing this through with this sort of pseudo logic is scummy

The OMGUS is real.

[yuma]

Haddock - Would vote for him.  Something has felt a bit off all game, probably due to consistent mid-line comments.  Not the strongest Day 1 lynch but I’d be okay with this.

This is interesting.  I'm keen to know what you mean by "consistent mid-line comments".  I honestly don't know whether you're accusing me of something there or what you mean...

Basically what e said.  It's not like OMG HE'S SCUM but there is a good possibility - I like to look for scum where you currently sit: in the zone of nothing too dramatic, nothing too out of the ordinary, and reasonable accord with general consensus.

and yet you are voting for me...?

[yuma]

sounds like you are saying... "anything that anyone does is something that I can manipulate and twist into being scummy."

[Witherweaver]

The gambit would be to intentionally get into an argument, get pretend upset, leave, gain invincibility through AtE, and come back later.  I'm not sure how legit that possibility is since you already claimed, but it still is a possibility.  It's also a very low-blow play, so I'd like to assume you wouldn't try it, but I've seen it before.

Ok vote: ampharos I would like to be lynched for reasons that are great than a possibility, whatever that means. I think pushing this through with this sort of pseudo logic is scummy

How is what Awaclus is doing any different?

[Witherweaver]

The gambit would be to intentionally get into an argument, get pretend upset, leave, gain invincibility through AtE, and come back later.  I'm not sure how legit that possibility is since you already claimed, but it still is a possibility.  It's also a very low-blow play, so I'd like to assume you wouldn't try it, but I've seen it before.

Ok vote: ampharos I would like to be lynched for reasons that are great than a possibility, whatever that means. I think pushing this through with this sort of pseudo logic is scummy

The OMGUS is real.

Not if you're scum!

[Ampharos]

Haddock - Would vote for him.  Something has felt a bit off all game, probably due to consistent mid-line comments.  Not the strongest Day 1 lynch but I’d be okay with this.

This is interesting.  I'm keen to know what you mean by "consistent mid-line comments".  I honestly don't know whether you're accusing me of something there or what you mean...

Basically what e said.  It's not like OMG HE'S SCUM but there is a good possibility - I like to look for scum where you currently sit: in the zone of nothing too dramatic, nothing too out of the ordinary, and reasonable accord with general consensus.

and yet you are voting for me...?

Just because I like to look for scum in one place does not mean it could be in another.

[yuma]

The gambit would be to intentionally get into an argument, get pretend upset, leave, gain invincibility through AtE, and come back later.  I'm not sure how legit that possibility is since you already claimed, but it still is a possibility.  It's also a very low-blow play, so I'd like to assume you wouldn't try it, but I've seen it before.

Ok vote: ampharos I would like to be lynched for reasons that are great than a possibility, whatever that means. I think pushing this through with this sort of pseudo logic is scummy

How is what Awaclus is doing any different?

who?

[yuma]

Just because I like to look for scum in one place does not mean it could be in another.

very true. well stated.

[yuma]

How is what Awaclus is doing any different?

who?

More seriously though.... ampharos has more votes and I don't necessarily expect him to do that regardless of alignment...

[Ampharos]

sounds like you are saying... "anything that anyone does is something that I can manipulate and twist into being scummy."

I'd recommend trying to put yourself in my shoes, try to look at your situation from my PoV, and ask yourself if there's any possibility I could see you as scum.   If you can't, then I guess we're just not going to see eye to eye, which is too bad.  I like your playstyle.

It's important to note that while my vote is on you, I'm not actively trying to get you lynched.  I'm merely answering your questions, which is a lot better than what Awaclus is doing, for example. 

[Witherweaver]

sounds like you are saying... "anything that anyone does is something that I can manipulate and twist into being scummy."

I'd recommend trying to put yourself in my shoes, try to look at your situation from my PoV, and ask yourself if there's any possibility I could see you as scum.   If you can't, then I guess we're just not going to see eye to eye, which is too bad.  I like your playstyle.

It's important to note that while my vote is on you, I'm not actively trying to get you lynched.  I'm merely answering your questions, which is a lot better than what Awaclus is doing, for example.

That's, like, worse. 

[Ampharos]

sounds like you are saying... "anything that anyone does is something that I can manipulate and twist into being scummy."

I'd recommend trying to put yourself in my shoes, try to look at your situation from my PoV, and ask yourself if there's any possibility I could see you as scum.   If you can't, then I guess we're just not going to see eye to eye, which is too bad.  I like your playstyle.

It's important to note that while my vote is on you, I'm not actively trying to get you lynched.  I'm merely answering your questions, which is a lot better than what Awaclus is doing, for example.

That's, like, worse.

Like, totes. *hairflip*

[silverspawn]

yuma isn't great.

YPG is sort of okay. Feeling worse about him lately.

iguanda is, despite recent towniness, still on top of my want-lynch list

let's try vote: .... oh wait no because YPG said he doesn't feel threatened because I switch my vote around too often. I don't like that. I like to be threatening.

But I'll ask again, would people support a Haddock lynch? Or a WW lynch?

[Ampharos]

yuma isn't great.

YPG is sort of okay. Feeling worse about him lately.

iguanda is, despite recent towniness, still on top of my want-lynch list

let's try vote: .... oh wait no because YPG said he doesn't feel threatened because I switch my vote around too often. I don't like that. I like to be threatening.

But I'll ask again, would people support a Haddock lynch? Or a WW lynch?

Yes to both, if my vote was needed.  And I have a feeling it may be today.

Speaking of which, unvote.

[yuma]

sounds like you are saying... "anything that anyone does is something that I can manipulate and twist into being scummy."

I'd recommend trying to put yourself in my shoes, try to look at your situation from my PoV, and ask yourself if there's any possibility I could see you as scum.   If you can't, then I guess we're just not going to see eye to eye, which is too bad.  I like your playstyle.

It's important to note that while my vote is on you, I'm not actively trying to get you lynched.  I'm merely answering your questions, which is a lot better than what Awaclus is doing, for example.

There are lots of possibilities where I could be scum! There are lots of possibilities for everyone. But that isn't the point. Because there are lots of possibilities where I could be town. And in your shoes I think it should be apparent that the possibilities of my being town are 1. greater in number and 2. more likely than the possibilities of my being scum. AND more importantly 3. are less likely than the possibilities of other people being scum.

You seem to admit this yourself in stating: "I'm not sure how legit that possibility is since" and other similar statements and saying you are not actively pushing for my lynch.

[Teproc]

YPG is not an acceptable nickname for someone whose username does not include the letters Y, P or G.

Ok, there's p in there but it's not even a P sound.

@Ampharos : Voting for someone is the exact definition of "actively trying to get someone lynched". Yes you can do more than that, but in essence, that is what a vote is.

[Teproc]

yuma isn't great.

YPG is sort of okay. Feeling worse about him lately.

iguanda is, despite recent towniness, still on top of my want-lynch list

let's try vote: .... oh wait no because YPG said he doesn't feel threatened because I switch my vote around too often. I don't like that. I like to be threatening.

But I'll ask again, would people support a Haddock lynch? Or a WW lynch?

I would downright oppose a Haddock lynch. I think I'd oppose a WW lynch too, though I'm not as confident there.

[yuma]

also.... assuming I live... do people want me to shoot tonight?

I feel like I am starting to like the idea of shooting tonight a bit more. Unless we hit scum, then I think I like it less. But if everyone (or even a significant minority) is panic-mode and doesn't think I should then I won't.

[Ampharos]

YPG is not an acceptable nickname for someone whose username does not include the letters Y, P or G.

Ok, there's p in there but it's not even a P sound.

@Ampharos : Voting for someone is the exact definition of "actively trying to get someone lynched". Yes you can do more than that, but in essence, that is what a vote is.

For what it's worth, I don't care if people YPG me, that's cool if they want to.  It is, technically, accurate.

I think you know what I mean though about actively lynching someone. SS has voted for basically everybody about 3 times now, but you can't say he's actively trying to get everyone simultaneously lynched.  It's more of a "let's put this here and see what we can get from it".  Actively pushing for someone to get lynched is voting, then trying to persuade everyone else to vote for them. 

[Witherweaver]

I'm all for reckless shooting.

Also,

Vote: Ampharos

[Teproc]

YPG is not an acceptable nickname for someone whose username does not include the letters Y, P or G.

Ok, there's p in there but it's not even a P sound.

@Ampharos : Voting for someone is the exact definition of "actively trying to get someone lynched". Yes you can do more than that, but in essence, that is what a vote is.

For what it's worth, I don't care if people YPG me, that's cool if they want to.  It is, technically, accurate.

I think you know what I mean though about actively lynching someone.

I know what you mean, but I agree with yuma that your vote on him made no sense considering what you were saying about him (the maaaaaybe he was scum) and other people like Haddock (the he was exactly where you'd look for scum).

Re : YPG, it's more a question of clarity than anything else.

[Ampharos]

YPG is not an acceptable nickname for someone whose username does not include the letters Y, P or G.

Ok, there's p in there but it's not even a P sound.

@Ampharos : Voting for someone is the exact definition of "actively trying to get someone lynched". Yes you can do more than that, but in essence, that is what a vote is.

For what it's worth, I don't care if people YPG me, that's cool if they want to.  It is, technically, accurate.

I think you know what I mean though about actively lynching someone.

I know what you mean, but I agree with yuma that your vote on him made no sense considering what you were saying about him (the maaaaaybe he was scum) and other people like Haddock (the he was exactly where you'd look for scum).

Re : YPG, it's more a question of clarity than anything else.

Right, which is partially why I unvoted.  Mainly because I'm inclined to believe him for now though.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.11:

Ampharos (5): ss, Hydrad, 2.7, yuma, WW
EgorK (2): iguana, Haddock
yuma (2): Awaclus, faust
2.7 (2): EgorK, Teproc

Not Voting (2): RR, Ampharos

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December 8 at 9:00 a.m. forum time.

[silverspawn]

YPG is not an acceptable nickname for someone whose username does not include the letters Y, P or G.

Ok, there's p in there but it's not even a P sound.

what? you're wrong. YPG is a great nickname.

[silverspawn]

Ampharos, on the other hand, confuses me. It always reminds me of Amorphis.